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1936 Bedford WLG 2-Ton Curtis Horsebox

1936 Bedford WLG in Nothing Venture, Movie, 1948

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin:

1936 Bedford WLG 2-Ton Curtis Horsebox

Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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Lateef ◊ 2020-08-24 20:14	Fake plate RD 8505
Lateef ◊ 2020-08-24 20:16	Appears to be a mongrel - grille and fenders are in a different color and from around 1939/WW2, while the lorry itself appears to be from around 1936-38 judging by the hood vents...
dsl ◊ 2020-08-25 00:47	RD 8505 was Reading, 1936. It's only got one eye.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-08-25 09:41	The bonnet, (hoods are found on sports cars), is that of an earlier model which may have been fitted with a later grille. WL? Fenders are for fireplaces, American terminology is fine on American vehicles, but whatever this is it is a British Bedford. The 1931/2 models had “British Bedford” badges on the bonnet sides. -- Last edit: 2020-08-25 10:44:12
Sunbar ◊ 2020-08-25 10:54	A Bedford WLG 2-ton with horizontally split windscreen, bonnet louvres and early wheels from 1936. Only the grille and headlamp position would be wrong for 1936. (The 1936 registration also says these are the only items that were changed rather than changing bonnet and perhaps windscreen). The radiator grille and headlamp position are as 1938-9 WLG, which would also have the early wheels, or the same 1939-1953 M and O-types' grille and headlamp items only. As it is carrying a Reading-issued registration number the horsebox body may be by Vincent's of Reading, although it would probably be earlier than those with the shaped roof between cab and body. https://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p683680186/h144cc1e3#h507b3ce8 -- Last edit: 2020-08-25 11:08:35
Sunbar ◊ 2020-08-25 11:25	Another Bedford where the grille and headlamps were changed for later parts, a 1937 Bedford WTL 3-Ton. /vehicle_733091-Bedford-WTL-1937.html Either changed to look like a newer vehicle or perhaps damaged in wartime and parts scrounged from whatever trucks were being scrapped as being unservicable? Could Vauxhall-Bedford spares in wartime dictate that "new-services-old" in the case of manufacturing some parts that would be in short supply? -- Last edit: 2020-08-25 11:35:20
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-08-25 12:18	Mr. Stevens-Stratten’s book, (again!) has, on p31 a picture of a Bedford horse box showing an almost identical box said to be by Curtis. Never ‘eard of ‘em! If you want I can probably post an upside down picture.
Sunbar ◊ 2020-08-27 17:50	Curtis horse-boxes are new to me also. I guess it applies to "National Motor Horse Box Co., Ltd., Curtis Buildings, Park Royal, London. NW10" as here in 1931.. Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com" and below a Bedford 'Curtis' horse-box built by Strachans Successors, Ltd. could be to Curtis design or patents I think. I guess any additional picture (inverted if necessary) would be good depending if you have the time.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-08-27 18:07	Time is the Simplest Thing. Listen buddy, I trade with you my picture. (After Clifford D Simak) I employed a very simple ruse, I turned the book upside down. -- Last edit: 2020-08-27 18:12:33
Sunbar ◊ 2020-08-27 18:57	Sometimes the simplest way can be the least obvious, it depends how you look at it. A 1931 Curtis on a Ford chassis to a similar design. My time, at least some of it, is going to be seeing why they seem to prefer putting the horse ramp (in the singular) on the off-side. Plenty of discussion so far, on the horse facing towards the engine or away from it. I think the movie vehicle can almost certainly be described as a 'Curtis' Horsebox however it appears that it could also be built, like the Strachans, by other Horsebox builders.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-08-27 19:12	Just a thought. If the ramp was on the near side and the vehicle pulled up close to the footpath in a village or country town it wouldn’t be possible to get the horse out. At least if the ramp opened into the street side there would be space enough, but the traffic would have to wait a while.
Sunbar ◊ 2020-08-27 20:52	It could be as you describe, only conclusion drawn so far is that probably before 1929 a near-side ramp was common. It seems the off-side ramp was employed after 1930, so some operating experience (possibly a restriction as you describe) forced a change. Curtis was part of Curtis Automobile Ltd., concessionaires for Lancia cars. Their designs were constructed by the Dartford Engineering Co. Ltd, the directors of both companies being dedicated horse owners. Later Curtis produced their own bodies, however other body manufactures also appear to have made horseboxes to the Curtis design. -- Last edit: 2020-08-27 20:53:15

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