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1951 Bentley Mk.VI Special Re-bodied James Young saloon [B42MD]

1951 Bentley Mk.VI Special [B42MD] in That's the Way of the World, Kinofilm, 1975

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1951 Bentley Mk.VI Special Re-bodied James Young saloon [B42MD]

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s13a ◊ 2020-03-12 17:14	Might be this one? Link to "webcache.googleusercontent.com" Zitat Custom Built 1948 Bentley Roadster Zitat Due to the lack of information from the seller, it’s hard to know exactly what this car is, but it appears to be a Harry Rose body sitting on a slightly modified Mark VI chassis. The seller mentions a custom boattail Bentley that sold recently for $300k, but that car had an aluminum body whereas this one clearly is made of fiberglass. They sort of reminds me of Halse Engineering (1970-75) replicas of these Bentley's.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 00:23	OKL 454 was originally chassis # B42MD, a November 1951 Bentley MkVI, with a James Young 4 door 6 light saloon to design #C12, not actually one of my favourites, but still. Its first owner was D M Steele Ltd, and the body # was 1970. It was exhibited at Earls Court in 1951 on the James Young stand. Newall corroborates the registration as Kent County Council, 10/11 1951. How are the mighty fallen! -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 00:36:50
chicomarx ◊ 2020-03-13 00:45	Still priced at 35,000 USD in its current condition. Seller may be overly ambitious there. -- Last edit: 2020-09-30 19:17:54
CougarTim ◊ 2020-03-13 00:46	s13a wrote Might be this one? Link to "webcache.googleusercontent.com" Very close and a good find, but the movie car appears to have opening doors; that car does not.
Baube ◊ 2020-03-13 00:49	chicomarx wrote Seller may be overly ambitious there. once here there was an ad for a car for sale : 10,000 $ for a 280,000 kms 1994 Buick Roadmaster , that ad came out somewhere in the mid to late 2000's ( even an half-that milleage in good condition one was less than that ) -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 00:50:29
s13a ◊ 2020-03-13 01:02	CougarTim wrote but the movie car appears to have opening doors; that car does not. Yes, according to another sales ad of the same car, it was imported to Florida in 1983 (so, 8 years after this movie was made) but this time, they do mention that it was built by Halse Enterprises of Sussex, England: http://classiccardb.com/bentley/139223-1948-bentley-mk-vi-special.html And looking at their examples (mostly in the UK), they all seem to have these opening doors: Link to "i.pinimg.com" Link to "i.pinimg.com" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6q4rjbCAAAjTGz.jpg -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 01:05:17
dsl ◊ 2020-03-13 01:15	When you've got headlights that big, why do you need 4 more lights?
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 01:16	I do not agree with your suggestion that the car was rebodied by Halse. A total of at least 349 of the 5208 Bentley MkVI cars built have received new bodies of one type or another, and the subject car cannot be tied to the thumbnail car on such flimsy evidence.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 01:20	Those headlights look like Lucas P100s taken off a Sheerline in a scrap yard. It would be necessary to fit something, as the JY body would have had Lucas 700s or similar, in the front wings. The outer two lights will be direction indicators, the inner pair being there instead of a single centre lamp on some export chassis, and lesser makes like Rolls-Royces.
s13a ◊ 2020-03-13 01:24	I won't argue. Plus, it was just a suggestion and I didn't add coachbuilder's name here or anything, but do you know of any other manufacturer which made these replicas this similar to each other?
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 08:39	Somebody at the management had decided that they would add a name, which caused my response. I see it’s gone now. Despite about 55 years involved with Mk VI and R-Type Bentleys, I had never heard of Halse, but see below for the reason why I queried the identification as sloppy. Racing Green for starters, but probably later than, and certainly better than, the subject picture. Can I refer you to Ray Roberts’ book, “Bentley Specials and Special Bentleys”? Link to "www.amazon.co.uk" It is only £110 per copy, but probably hard to find at that price, that will have such knowledge within its covers. -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 09:15:17
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 08:41	Some examples of MkVI/R-Type Specials. Link to "www.historics.co.uk" http://www.bentleyspotting.com/2007/12/bentley-mk-vi-special-for-christmas.html https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24121/lot/567/?category=list https://www.kultkars.net/1947-bentley-mk-vi-special/ Link to "www.barnebys.co.uk" https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C120976 -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 09:05:49
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 08:59	Racing Green. Link to "rmsothebys.com" How to do a proper job. -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 09:00:13
s13a ◊ 2020-03-13 17:12	I really don't want to proceed with this anymore, but to make myself clear, when I meant similar, I meant similar: johnfromstaffs wrote Some examples of MkVI/R-Type Specials... If you want my honest opinion about these, then I'll say that none of them look like the subject vehicle in this movie. The first one has a similar front-end, but the body is completely different. I won't say it is the one, because there is no confirmation anywhere about who made this body in the movie, but usually, kit-car/neo-classic manufacturers are distinguishable by certain details (think how people differentiate Zimmer from Clénet or Excalibur or other manufactuer). Apologies for voicing an opinion.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 18:11	I sometimes wonder if my age means that I speak (and write) a different language, or my many years of reading commercial contracts has increased my cynicism quotient. You have just proved that the subject vehicle is one of 16, fine, no reason why it cannot be named as a Halse rebodied example. Earlier on it couldn’t, since the conclusion was drawn from appearance only. I, too, shall continue to voice my opinions when I think it fit, and the admins can delete if they wish.
s13a ◊ 2020-03-13 19:18	Or maybe it's just me who takes things the wrong way and makes the whole atmosphere unpleasant. My word shouldn't be always taken for granted, as I don't have this experience and knowledge in this field like you do, so I can only make suggestions from anything that can be found out there in the virtual world (which isn't always reliable either) and from certain books that I have which sometimes come in handy. And no, I haven't proved that the subject vehicle is specifically a Halse-bodied special (maybe it is, maybe it's not). Like I said, there is no confirmation about it anywhere (which is a shame), but it is, I believe, useful to make references or suggestions to coachbuilders in case a similar or the same vehicle would pop up in another movie/TV series. It's like taking a start from somewhere. No need to quarrel or spread negativity, so I apologize if I come out coarse lately myself. -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 19:18:28
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 19:24	No apology is necessary or expected. A frank exchange of views in plain, but not profane, language is always good.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-03-13 21:08	Not the same example, but the same bodystyle on a slightly older car. B108KM, May 1951, new to Iliffe and Sons Ltd. From: - "Autocar on Bentley since 1919" Bay View Books Ltd 1988. Best I could do with a box Brownie and six candles. -- Last edit: 2020-03-13 21:24:02

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