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◊ 2020-03-04 21:43 |
The flowing roofline was typical of early to mid-1950s HCB design I think? Other body manufactures had similar designs but less curved. Chassis is more of a problem, Bedfords were common with HCB but unlikely a S-type. A type or J type normal control chassis with cab pushed forward by the wheel-arch intrusion but its all speculation. Commer unlikely I think. |
◊ 2020-03-04 23:51 |
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26836547-hcb--angus |
◊ 2020-03-05 13:49 |
^ Yes, I purchased that about six months ago as being probably the best source for information. Nothing with the same cab door arrangement and both the Bedford S and Commer look less than likely. Similar in general appearance but definitely not the same... https://www.fire-engine-photos.com/picture/number16180.asp -- Last edit: 2020-03-05 13:54:52 |
◊ 2020-03-05 14:01 |
Leyland Comet is a possibility but the cab door looks smaller in the movie, again just not enough visible to be certain. /vehicle_131369-Leyland-Comet.html /vehicle_785680-Leyland-Comet.html |
◊ 2020-03-05 17:52 |
Leyland Comet Windover now looks right after finding a rear-side view from a similar view point. The cab door looks short from the rear because the doors are set at an angle. Even the Comet's step into the cab now appears to be visible. https://www.fire-engine-photos.com/picture/number15746.asp -- Last edit: 2020-03-05 18:00:19 |
◊ 2020-03-06 09:02 |
I don’t doubt your identification but do suggest that this emphasises the minefield of identifying coachbuilt vehicles, of whatever type. The whims and foibles of the buyer can be incorporated into the resultant product, later causing problems for those who think everything of a certain type should be produced like peas in a pod. As a further instance, my otherwise standard R-type Bentley is one of a quite small number with a centre gear change, trying to identify it from an interior view would cause the half-informed some difficulty. -- Last edit: 2020-03-06 09:06:51 |
◊ 2020-03-06 16:54 |
The Comets with Windover bodies do appear to be more standardised than the HCBs. Whilst the HCB appliances in general were more numerous (but the Comet was a rarity) they were tailored individually to each brigades requirements and there is no attempt at standardisation. I've been staring at the recessed door handles on both HCB and Windover for hours (don't ask me why), only to come to the conclusion they both fitted whatever was available round or triangular/trilobular. Side locker, hose-reel locations etc. again are only broadly similar. The only two features I'm hanging on to currently is the roof-lines over the crew cab and the immediate cab details themselves. Something better than guess-work, about 60 or 70%... I think Comet without any better view, and most likely a Windover body. |
◊ 2021-01-31 10:43 |
Late to this, good detective work and agree Leyland Comet with Windover body , maybe Surrey Fire Brigade or ex SFB. Hose reel position is unusal, found picture of model that shows it- Leyland Comet RPG 22 survives- https://www.fire-engine-photos.com/picture/number8477.asp -- Last edit: 2021-01-31 11:05:01 |
◊ 2021-01-31 10:59 |
Being watching these films and it looks like the Leyland Comet reg. no. is RPG21 which was with Surrey Fire Brigade at Mitcham. Note also the Austin A40 car is reg. 21 RPG so most probably a genuine SFB vehicle. -- Last edit: 2021-01-31 11:02:45 |
◊ 2021-01-31 22:31 |
RPG 21 = Surrey, Jan 52 to Feb 53 "allocated in blocks". 21 RPG = aug 60 to Feb 61, also "allocated in blocks" |
◊ 2021-02-02 12:26 |
The above link's comments also give a clue to the identity of the other fire engine as Mitcham stationed Surrey Fire Brigade's 'Rolls Dennis'. -- Last edit: 2021-02-02 12:27:00 |