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carchasesfanatic ◊ 2007-10-08 13:31
antp ◊ 2007-10-08 17:29	Note for Ccf: The Beetle is always Typ 1 and that version is listed as sedan, not as hatchback nor coupé
carchasesfanatic ◊ 2007-10-08 17:37	Ok ill rememeber it, and if necesary ill hit my head into a wall as Sixcyl did
antp ◊ 2007-10-08 17:39
carchasesfanatic ◊ 2007-10-08 17:41
sixcyl ◊ 2007-10-08 17:58	carchasesfanatic wrote Ok ill rememeber it, and if necesary ill hit my head into a wall as Sixcyl did Don't
Ingo ◊ 2007-10-08 20:31	For European eyes something is wrong (resp.non orignal) with this VW. O.k., my ideas can be wrong, when it's a Mexican made, because they were different, but for me it's obviously, that the bumper (pre 67 "export"-bumper") and the front lamps are don't fit to the colour (I don't remember its VW-name). It was popular, but on the market after ca.1969/70. I have never seen a (original) pre 67-Beetle with this colour. Do you have the same impression like me, that the wheels on the left side are not identical with the wheels on the left? Perhaps the pics are too bad or I'm to stupid for seeing, but the left hubcaps are looking like the older, rounder ones for the pre 66 five-bolt-wheels. The chrome rings around the hubcaps were popular mainly in 1963/64. The right wheels are looking like the newer ones, with 4-bolts. But really original they aren't for me, too. On the first two pics wheels and tires are seeming lower, but thicker than the original 15-inch-ones.
Ingo ◊ 2007-10-08 20:38	I continue better with a second posting, because 10 minutes ago "my imcdb" was crushing down. The chrome around back side window is too thick for the original European version. It can be an aftersale-market extra (to open it) or really the Mexican version. The colour of the VW and the back hood are loking like a 1200 Standard after 1969, but there is too much chrome (and the wrong front lamps and bumpers). On the first view -due to the colour- I was sure "1300 or perhaps 1302" (1302 before I saw the flat fron hood) - but all these stange details have irritated me. Otherwise: yesterday I've visited a small VW-meeting in the neighbourhood. Beetle-fans are often not so "original-fetishists" like other freaks (for example me, ahem... ), so they don't see any problems to change parts and extras from different model-years.
chris40 ◊ 2007-10-08 21:00	I think I know what you're saying, Ingo; I have a problem with the wheels, too. But there's a complication: the 1966 model year 1300 had pierced wheels similar to the later ones, but with a five-bolt fitting - I think that was only for that model year. (I know, I once had one.) It seems a bit odd to have different hub-caps on the one side to the other, and wheel-trims only on the one side ... I can't help wondering if they're the same car!
Ingo ◊ 2007-10-08 21:05	@chris: but it's definetely not a 66-model. The colour and also the door-handles are not belonging to it. -- Last edit: 2007-10-08 21:05:25
peekay64 ◊ 2007-10-09 10:10	my 2 cents worth: I think the model you are referring to Ingo is the Marathon beetle in Europe. But since this is most likely a Mexican beetle, I wouldn;t be too concerned about the colour scheme. You are right, the bumper are incorrect for the year, it should have had the bigger later bumpers, that's why these earlier ones seem so high. The slanting front headlamps in combination with the tombstone rear lights are puzzling me. Also the engine lid would suggest an earlier pre-67 model... The wheels are definitely the same, left and right. It's just in the picture the wheels are turning much more, therefore you can't see the holes in the rims individually. I actually think these are Porsche 356 Rims, which again would suggest 5 stud pattern...
Ingo ◊ 2007-10-09 19:20	@peekay: do you with "Marathon Beetle" the special model from 1972 (in Germany called "Weltmeister", when the productions has overtaken the Ford T-model? This woudl be definetely wrong. This special model was -as "Marathon" also says- was coloured in "marathonmetallic", a light blue metallic, never in this colour above.
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-10-10 23:18	Old style hubcap, old style front fender with new vertical headlight. For me, 1968/72 taillight without backup lights. I say it is South African made version.
ingo ◊ 2009-10-10 23:25	Yes, you're right, this movie was filmed in ZA. @Johnny Ford: he you see an example of "posting before thinking" - I could have saved my whole thoughts and long postings about the originality of this car. I just had to look for the location. ZA-made VW's are different than the original German ones, Brazilian and Mexican, too.
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-10-10 23:31	@ingo: I am also still learning about these cars. I have always suspected something is made outside domestic made cars and I have always like to see the curiosity the variant of the same car for other country.
ingo ◊ 2009-10-10 23:49	The real "curosity" (resp.confusion) you will feel, when you are busy with spare parts for them... I have a friend and I know other guys, too, who are dealers for parts for classic VW's. Even with their 25-year-old-experience in that business, it's hard for them to remind every detail. And the guy own many rare VW's, so private imported Brazilian models, a SP, a Karmann TC, a four-door Type 3, a 1996 made VW T2 Station Wagen, a 411 in US-version and so on. I'm happy, that "my" car was only produced for a short time and in only one plant.
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-10-11 01:42	ingo wrote I'm happy, that "my" car was only produced for a short time and in only one plant. I am sorry to ask you, ingo. Doesn't the K70 uses Audi engine? I have seen Rabbit and Dasher have Audi logo stamp on these engines. -- Last edit: 2009-10-11 01:42:49
ingo ◊ 2009-10-11 11:02	No, the K 70 has nothing to do with other watercooled VW's, it was constructed by NSU before the merging with VW in 1969. The K 70-engine is based on the 4-cylinder-NSU-engines, but with a new block (iron than aluminium, watercooled than aircooled). Some smaller parts from the cylinderhead are identical with NSU, but no single part with VW. Yes, the VW/Audi uses the same engines for their whole model-range. At least the Dasher (Passat I) ist nothing else than a Audi Fox (80) Fastback. The whole technic is identical, the body until the C-Pillar, too. Don't wondering, when you take a look to the engines of the 6-cylinder-Diesel-Volvo's from the 80ies and 90ies (740 and so). There you will find also the VW/Audi-logo. Volvo has bought them from Vokswagen, it's the engine of the LT Transporter. And when you look at very early Audi-engines, from the Audi 60/72/Super 90, you will find annother logo - that one from Mercedes Benz. -- Last edit: 2009-10-11 11:05:15
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2016-11-26 02:08	Left hand drive, so not made in or for South Africa. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQZFqzQdC8
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2016-11-26 13:22	cough The chase scene is online at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQZFqzQdC8 and the Volkswagen is left hand drive.

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