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1930 Scammell S 10 Chain Drive 
Class: Trucks, Trailer truck (tractor) — Model origin: 
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◊ 2019-09-24 22:13 |
![[Image: unknowntruckiii2stpic.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/26849/unknowntruckiii2stpic.jpg) I'll assume this is the rear of this truck: ![[Image: unknowntruckiii3stpic.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/26849/unknowntruckiii3stpic.jpg) |
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◊ 2019-09-25 13:12 |
857(?) H (2nd thumb) was Middlesex, June 53 to March 54. 857 M never issued. |
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◊ 2019-09-25 14:04 |
That looks more thirties and a lot more Scammell to me. I suggest the “registration” be ignored, it’s either a trade plate, the serial number of the trailer, or a post-war re-reg. There is a numberplate on the front of the tractor, mounted low, which looks like it begins GC, (London, Dec 1929 to Mar 1930 for commercials) which would be much more like it. -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 14:16:44 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 14:16 |
Re-registered wartime/1940s Scammell like this? /vehicle_779727-Scammell-15-MU-1942.html |
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◊ 2019-09-25 14:18 |
Difficult. I think it may be older than that, but information from the pictures is sparse, like the tread on the front tyre! -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 14:29:32 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 14:42 |
Scammells and their models are somewhat of a mystery to me but a 1937 Scammell 15-ton was the heaviest tractor unit at the time (25MU), as the heavier 25-tonner was an integral 8-wheeler tractor trailer. I guess wartime Scammells were the same as the late 1930s. -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 15:00:02 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 15:00 |
Scammell built two 100 ton tractors in either 1929 or the early thirties, KD9168 and BLH21, but this isn’t one of those. Can we be certain that thumb 2 and the main picture are related? -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 15:04:01 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 15:23 |
It's just an assumption, because the rear of that truck (or trailer) appeared in the same scene where this riot happenned (unless there was a second truck standing somewhere that was not seen in the first shot). |
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◊ 2019-09-25 16:59 |
That number on the trailer could be a trade plate. |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:12 |
Can we agree now on Scammell? Scammell radiator shape looks right and outline of Scammell nameplate matches even if the lettering was removed. I have my doubts about thumbnail 2; I think ignore the '857H' registration in favour what I think could be OCxxxx (1933-1934 Birmingham?). With the truck having changed owners more than once it could be operating we away from where it was originally registered. Is 'Recovery' on the headboard rather than an owners name? |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:22 |
I think we can. Also, I am certain that it’s no more 1953 than I am! That cab is definitely Scammell shaped, and if you are happy about the radiator then OK. The problem next is which one? Chain drive or prop shaft? |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:24 |
It says "Redburn's", as seen on these Scammel lorries: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rtw501/46502337061 Link to "www.picclickimg.com" |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:27 |
GO 3395? Pretty certain that’s it! Combined efforts rule eh what! -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 17:29:38 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:35 |
Actually, it's most probably GC 3395, because this plate exists on 'vehicleenquiry' website and it says: Vehicle make: SCAMMELL Date of first registration: November 1930 Year of manufacture: 1930 Cylinder capacity (cc): 0 cc Fuel type: PETROL Vehicle status: Not taxed Vehicle colour: RED |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:38 |
So it’s a 1930 M20. 7094 cc 4 cylinder petrol engine as built, probably “Gardnerised” in later life. -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 17:44:58 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 17:42 |
http://www.historicroadways.co.uk/scammell-100-tonner.html |
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◊ 2019-09-25 19:33 |
This -- GC 3395 -- and 897H! Redburn's Scammell S10 (apologies if this already found, as I have not fully digested the above comments I've been occupied on other things). https://en.wheelsage.org/scammell/s10/pictures/wbyzpy/ -- Last edit: 2019-09-25 19:36:19 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 20:21 |
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◊ 2019-09-25 20:45 |
So we already had the truck itself but Scammell's model range are still confusing to me and CCMV tried to classify them. I would like to say things are clearer, but I fear Scammell may have beaten me! |
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◊ 2019-09-25 21:03 |
I found a picture labelled M20, but can I find it again? |
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◊ 2019-09-25 21:53 |
The Redburn's Scammell S10 picture below is at least partially confirmed with this similarly up-dated 'S10' and the appearance in The Yellow Rolls-Royce shows its a 'chain drive' Scammell.![[Image: scammell_s10.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/scammell_s10.jpg) On a personal note my grandparents lived in Tolpits Lane, Watford the same as the Scammell factory, although that was in the Leyland days of ownership and I never got to see where the plant was. |
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◊ 2019-09-25 22:02 |
I'm quite happy with S10, it seems Scammell model designations wavered around somewhat. |
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◊ 2019-09-25 22:13 |
Just maybe seeing a chink of light with the help of CM archive S10 could just be (with a lot of caution) short wheelbase 10 ton chain drive 6 wheel articulated (non-detachable) lorry in the mid-1920s, later early 1930s 12 15 and 17 tonners are also prefixed 'S?' chain drive of the same 6-wheel articulated configuration. |
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◊ 2019-09-26 11:27 |
'Recovery' vehicles were allowed to use Trade Plates at this time so looks like Redburn's ran this old warrior on Trade Plates which saved a bit of cash on taxation. Companies own delivery vehicles were also allowed Trade Plates for some reason so firms like JCB had low loaders running on Trade Plates. -- Last edit: 2019-09-26 11:30:07 |
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