Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin:
Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2007-09-11 15:17 |
?Phantom V? |
◊ 2007-09-11 18:31 |
I Guess this is a Mulliner Park Ward body - not nearly so elegant as the single headlight James Young version IMHO. What identifies it as a V as opposed to a VI? The windscreen seems tall - is it a 'top hat' version? |
◊ 2007-09-11 19:14 |
why not PVI? |
◊ 2007-09-11 21:37 |
Phantom V: http://www.antique-limos.com/RollsPV2002%20copy.jpg Phantom VI: Link to "storm.tocmp.com" Take your pick! I did bracket it with queries. |
◊ 2007-09-12 06:14 |
From looking at those two links I would say PV because the PVI has square fog lights. -- Last edit: 2007-09-12 06:15:17 |
◊ 2007-09-12 09:57 |
Major difference between the two cars is the front hinged and rear hinged rear doors. The V's all had rear hinged (suicide) doors, whereas somewhere along the line of production of the VI (I think as per 1972) new safety legislation forced RR to change the rear doors to front hinged, 'normal' opening. Because it happened early in the production process, it's not a clearcut fact, but one can more or less assume, since the differences are so slight, this is in fact a phantom V |
◊ 2007-09-12 10:09 |
Dank U wel, peekay64. I guessed right, then. ![]() -- Last edit: 2011-06-01 01:22:12 (G-MANN) |
◊ 2007-09-12 10:13 |
As far as I can determine, suicide doors may have been discontinued by 1970 which adds weight to your argument. |
◊ 2007-09-12 11:04 |
The top-hat version, surely, is HM's old Phantom VI (before she got the Bentley). http://luxurycarphotos.tripod.com/77rollsphantomVI.jpg |
◊ 2007-09-12 12:06 |
Yeah, I'm sure you're right chris40, it's just something at the back of my mind tells me that I read of some wanabees asking for the same version, though maybe without the clearview panels. Perhaps I'm thinking of the IV which was only sold to Heads of State. The memory's starting to go...soon be time for my nap! |
◊ 2008-08-09 14:00 |
It may be a 1962-1968 Phantom V to design 2003 or a 1968-1972 Phantom VI, to design ... 2003. If we could see the windscreen scuttle, it would be easy to tell what it is. Prior to 1962, design 2003 featured single headlamps and after 1972 it had suicide rear doors as written above. |
◊ 2008-09-09 16:37 |
This is Phantom VI PRH 1500, the Phantom VI prototype. She was built in 1967 as Phantom V 5VF83, but was later renumbered as a PVI. You can tell it's PRH1500 by the position of the side indicator repeaters. These are absent on a PV and on a regular PVI they're located right above the front wheels. On PRH1500 they're positioned a little ahead of their normal position. Here's PRH1500 as she is today, a courtesy car at the Palace Hotel in St. Moritz: http://www.klassiekergespot.nl/viewimages.php?id=1214748364814082008153219 -- Last edit: 2008-09-10 19:45:14 |
◊ 2010-03-25 00:05 |
The hotel's drivers confirmed she is from 1967. The interior being rather plain, with ordinary cloth in the rear compartment would go rather well with the idea hat this was a prototype... In winter she is on snow tires, and a small "tray" sits on the rear bumper to carry skis... |
◊ 2011-03-30 05:57 |
This was built as a V and renumbered a VI? Weird, I had no idea they did that kind of thing. -- Last edit: 2011-03-30 05:58:25 |
◊ 2012-08-02 11:08 |
Were those side indicator repeaters the only major exterior change between the Phantom V and Phantom VI? |