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1933 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi

1933 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior in Dancing with Crime, Movie, 1947 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1933 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi

Position 00:06:15 [*][*][*][*] Vehicle used a lot by a main character or for a long time

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dsl SX

2019-03-30 18:41

ALN/ALH/ALM 837 were all June/July 1933 to Aug/Sept 1933. 12/4 Taxi??

Dmitry_P RU

2019-03-30 19:36

ALM 837

Dmitry_P RU

2019-03-30 19:39

[Image: dancing-with-crime-1947-mp4_snapshot_000203878.jpg]

Sunbar UK

2019-03-30 22:20

Not an Austin I believe but the 1932 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi.

No details known as yet other than name and year of introduction but I guess it had a four-cylinder engine and would precede the six cylinder G2S Taxi.

dsl SX

2019-03-31 00:42

My newly acquired ebay bargain Taxi book gives this Morris sequence:
1] January 1929 Morris G-Type International, built from suggestion by George Kenning of Leeds-based International Cab Company; the first 840 made were recycled from unsold stockpile of the unsuccessful Empire Oxford, including apparently 200+ examples re-imported from Australia. Rebuilt with 6" shorter wheelbase and narrower axles. Had 4 cylinder 2513cc engine from Morris 30cwt truck, initially sold without headlights and rear brakes only, later fitted with headlights and 4 wheel brakes, and some retro-fits. All were brown landaulets, including a further 860 fresh builds, so total production 1700. Only one known survivor - UL 8563. Built at Morris-Commercial factory in Soho, Birmingham.
2] 1932 Morris G2 Junior. G-Type chassis, but new smaller body and engine (4 cylinder, 1802cc "Hotchkiss" design from Morris-Commercial Light Van). Not many made, as Nuffield were rationalising production sites and engine families, and switched Morris-Commercial production to Wolseley Adderley Park factory. The G2 was only made in occasional batches alongside the (more profitable) main truck activity, and was criticised for being underpowered.
3] Late 1934 G2S Junior Six - as G2 Junior, with new 6 cylinder 1938cc engine (Q-Type, detuned from Oxford Six, so the first version with a car engine, and the first London cab with 6-cylinders). Body etc identical to previous G2 Junior. Again only limited batch production as trucks dominated; also engine supply issues as the normal-spec Oxford Six received priority over the inconvenient detuned taxi special.
4] 1938 G2SW Super Six - new engine (6-cylinder 1918cc OHV from Morris 14 Series III). Same landaulet body, but now fitted with full glass driver door window. Again strangled supply - apparently Morris-Commercial and Beardmore only managed to sell a combined total of 65 cabs in 1938. Production stopped for WW2, with prototype [EOM 844] built end 1938 for the replacement Nuffield Oxford, which eventually went into production in 1947.

Sunbar UK

2019-03-31 12:30

Thanks dsl, excellent information and about as full a set of descriptions that I could hope for. :king:

Sunbar UK

2019-03-31 13:30

For possible future reference January 1929-1932 Morris G-Type International pictured here...

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

None found or listed to date on imcdb.

dsl SX

2019-03-31 13:49

:sun: The book is A Century of London Taxis by Bill Munro who seems to be a prolific taxi writer. Have only dipped in little bits so far, but packed with nuggets of (new for me) info.

2015 auction page for UL 8563, the only known 1929 Morris G-Type International survivor.

:think: Given the restricted production of G2 versions, we seem to have quite a good sprinkling of examples to play with. But apparently none of the 1929 G-Type International, which was made in reasonable quantities. Am I looking in the right place?? Is there a different name?? Or do we really have none??

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-31 14:17

Given the comments made by Jon Pressnell about the Empire Oxford, from which the G type evolved, having a weak chassis and a rough engine, maybe they proved unreliable in daily use and the 1700 built suffered a very high rate of attrition. The subject film was dated 1947, by which time the G would have been 15 years old at least. If they were as weak as JP suggests, maybe they were all killed off by the depredations of WW2.

Sunbar UK

2019-03-31 14:21

No G2 International taxi cabs that i can find but they could be hiding as unknown sedans or misidentified Austin taxis?

After a brief look through the G2 Junior etc. cabs they look to be fairly well documented with almost all number-plates being visible and multiple appearance by certain cabs.

-- Last edit: 2019-03-31 14:21:54

Ingo DE

2019-03-31 14:37

dsl wrote ...by Bill Munro...

the founder of Scottish mountains?

Sunbar UK

2019-03-31 15:33

dsl and jfs, I think a potential candidate for a 1929 Morris G-Type International here...

Taxi in John Atkins Saves Up, Short Movie, 1934.

1) Without headlights - sidelights appear correct
2) body seems OK
3) bonnet louvres uncertain but could be correct
4) filming date makes a 1929-1932 taxi likely

edit: Taxi in above link now updated as G-Type International.

-- Last edit: 2019-04-01 18:30:32

dsl SX

2019-04-01 00:05

Ingo wrote the founder of Scottish mountains?

He was a busy bloke.

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