Class: Cars, Racecar — Model origin:
00:59:57 Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2011-07-12 02:00 |
Abarth-Simca, I think. |
Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-07-12 02:02 |
Yes, its in Europe. I dont know if its the terrible accident in Le Mans. Maybe @dsl knows. -- Last edit: 2011-07-12 02:02:22 |
◊ 2011-07-12 12:23 |
It seems 1300 GT, 1600 GT and 2000 GT were always listed as Abarth-Simca, according to Al Cosentinos Abarth Guide and should be listed under Abarth. /vehicle_41432-Abarth-Simca-1300-Bialbero.html Besides this comment, this crashed car number 51 and this other 1963 Jaguar E-Type 3.8 Litre number 16 /vehicle_415063-Jaguar-E-Type-1963.html seem to be the two cars crashed on 1964 1000 km Paris According this info of the race http://www.racingsportscars.com/results/Montlhery-1964-10-11-2411.html number 51 was listed as Abarth-Simca 1300 Bialbero |
◊ 2011-07-16 14:17 |
Some confusion about which Abarth was involved in the fatal crash with Lindner's E-type. The general message seems to be #50, driven by Abarth's top racer, Franco Patria (who was also killed) and Taramazzo. #51 Neerpasch/Jüttner did not finish - is this Jochen Neerspach who ran Ford Germany/Zakspeed racing teams in the 1970s - ETC Capris etc?? Both #50 and #51 were 1964 Abarth-Simca 1300 Bialbero, as identified, and the first Abarths built with an entirely Abarth-made engine instead of being Fiat-based; several Simca components used including the frame from the Simca 1000. Simca was 20% owned by Fiat until Chrysler buyout in 1965, so Abarth's Simca links were blessed by Fiat as a friendly arrangement and much of the technology was similar, dating back to Simca assembly of Fiats in 1930s. There were even some Simca Abarth 1150 saloons based on the Simca 1000 Link to "www.automobile-catalog.com" and Link to "retrorides.proboards.com" - some with 6 speed gearboxes, long before Simca's own Rallye buzz-boxes and rivals to the Renault 8 Gordinis. -- Last edit: 2011-07-16 14:17:58 |
◊ 2020-02-19 23:35 |
It MUST be the demolished Patria Abarth at Montlhery 1964 1000Km, despite the apparent discrepancy of number on the www.racingsportscars.com site (they say #50 vs. 51 clearly here). The damage corresponds to the collision description given here: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=270 -- which occurred behind hay bales near the pit exit (three marshalls also tragically killed in the accident) when Lindner's Jag lost control in the very wet conditions, coming off the banking. The hay bales in the photo and "TOTAL" signs correspond to similar features in this photo of the destroyed Lindner Jaguar: https://www.webstagramsite.com/media/B7jlX1ZF05n P.S. found this notice re: the Patria accident from the time which pretty much confirms that this was the Patria Abarth: Link to "www.yumpu.com" -- Last edit: 2020-02-19 23:40:44 |
◊ 2020-07-16 17:51 |
It was at Montlhery -- I was 15 and there that day with my brother and father. I witnessed the accident, as did most of the spectators present due to its location on the track. Peter Lindner had just exited the banked portion of the track. The following article provides further details: Link to "www.nytimes.com" |