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◊ 2011-03-18 14:39 |
The vehicle details for K751 PHG are: Date of Liability 01 11 2010 Date of First Registration 19 09 1992 Year of Manufacture 1992 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1275CC Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Export Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour BLUE Vehicle Registration Number K751PHG Make/Model ROVER MINI MAYFAIR |
◊ 2011-03-19 21:24 |
So this makes it a 1993 Model Year? Personally I'd still prefer to list this as 1992. |
◊ 2011-03-19 21:35 |
We use model-years, not your preferences |
◊ 2011-03-19 21:42 |
Mayfair 1275 introduced June 92, replacing 998cc version. So can be argued as 93my, but I think actual date should apply when we know it. |
◊ 2011-03-20 19:08 |
Does model year begin at the same time of year or is it different for every brand? (Apologies if this has been stated before) |
◊ 2011-03-20 19:09 |
Are you asking about vehicles in general or about this specific brand? |
◊ 2011-03-20 19:16 |
It varies between makes. For example Volvo have a tendency to bring out the next model year as early as May. The 2012 SAAB 9-3 is pretty much available now in the UK. I like to think that we should ignore the registration date and focus on the observable specification and styling differences. Sometimes it's not as simple to look at a registration date and say that it is the next years model because it was registered in December. |
◊ 2011-03-20 19:29 |
To me a June 92 change is 92my - September or October feels as if it should be the threshold for following year and I'd accept August (and I've learned that anything to do with early Mustangs relies on a parallel calendar system which has no basis on conventional reality ....) For what it's worth here, there were several changes to the Minis in June 92, and then an additional launch in Oct 92 of the Italian Job editions. I think of this car as 92 for its my and would put the IJobs as 93my. I also think - as above - its Sept 92 registration date should be recorded when we have the info - model year is a less precise identification. |
◊ 2011-03-21 23:41 |
I think unless we know it is next year's model we should just list it according to when it was manufactured/registered. On this page I got the impression someone just entered the next year because the cars were registered in the latter half of a year. |
◊ 2011-03-22 00:06 |
There is also an issue about consistency from the other end of the telescope. Imagine a car which continues unchanged for 4-5 years, and that we have an example which can be dated from plates to year 3 of that run. If model year has to be dominant, we should enter it as year 1, although we know it's 2 years younger. To me that's a nonsensical position, so actual date where known is 1st choice for accuracy. Only when actual date is not available or its range is too wide, then model year becomes the preferred option. And I think my has to lie at least 50% in the same calendar year to make sense - if Saab or early Mustangs or whatever release cars in the Spring, they belong in that year as normal updates; if you tried to sell your car made in May 2010 as a 2011 car you could be prosecuted for misdescription. |