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1956 SAAB 93

1956 SAAB 93 dans IKEA: De 60 första åren, Documentaire, 2007

Catégorie : Voitures, Berline — Origine du modèle : SE

1956 SAAB 93

[*] Véhicule d'arrière-plan

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Ingo DE

2008-08-23 16:20

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Followed by an Moskwich, a Standard-VW Beetle and a ???

On the left side, isn't it a British Ford (Zephyr, Zodiac or so)?

rjluna2 US

2008-08-23 16:23

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1956/57.

chris40 UK

2008-08-23 20:39

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Ingo, you're slipping ... your Moskvich is a Standard Eight; your ??? is a Standard Vanguard. And a Wolseley 4/44 behind it ... your Ford is a Zephyr 4, I think.

Ingo DE

2008-08-23 22:28

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chris40 a écrit Ingo, you're slipping ...


I knew it before. But you know, that I'm from a country, where these many British cars were always totally unknown. A propos the Standard Vanguard, you've noted: /vehicle_119128-Standard-Vanguard-1950.html ? I'm still surprised, that such a car was ever running in Germany.

Was Germany the only European country, where the most British made cars, never never ever been exported? How about France, Italy and Spain?
O.k., Spain hadn't -as I know- big car-imports until the lates 80ies, to save the own assembly-lines.

In Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Switzerland and Austria, also in Sweden and Finland of the 50ies and 60ies, there were many more British cars to see than in Germany.

On several classic-car-markets there is a guy from Sweden (area Jönköping), who sells car-brochures, also diecast-models (he's more a collector than a dealer). He was quite surprised, when I'm told him, that it would be hard for him, to find buyers for all his Humber-, Hillman-, Standard-, Vauxhall-, Singer- and other British car-brochures, because all these cars were/are totally unknown over here.


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chris40 UK

2008-08-23 22:59

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The first time I took a car abroad was to Holland in 1964. Apart from Minis (invariably called Austin Sevens), there were by then very few locally-registered British cars there, possibly because of our then non-membership of the Common Market. To some extent I imagine the same applied in Belgium. Of course there were always Rolls-Royces, Bentleys, Jaguars ... At that time I remember seeing a few British Fords with German plates, notably Classics, Capris and Corsairs; possibly Ford-Köln imported them. In later years I seem to remember German-owned Austins, notably 1800 'Landcrabs' and Maxis.
As for Italy, of course Innocenti manufactured several BMC cars under licence; and I recall the Ford Anglia being popular there too, to the extent that there was even an Italian hatchback version of it.
I've always been surprised by the number of British cars that appear in movies set in Paris!

Ingo DE

2008-08-24 00:22

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@chris: maybe the British Ford with German plates were from soldiers, stationated here. As I know, there was no official export of the Capri (that one from the early 60ies, not the 1969+ one) and Corsairs. At least I cannot remember any British Ford before the Escort MKI, which was ever officially exported to Germany.

A propos 1969x Capri MKI: the RHD-Capri's were all made in England, the LHD ones, all in Germany - and you cannot change parts between them, because the UK-made has inch-measures and the German one metric-measures! Even the screws don't fit!


And as I wrote somewhere else: the only orign official sold British GM-cars, we had over here, were the Bedford CF and the Vauxhall Chevette.

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Ingo DE

2008-08-24 00:51

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A propos British cars: what an engine you could put in that car: /vehicle_177756-Morris-Minor-Traveller.html ?

Once I saw a car coming on the Autobahn behind me (I was driving 140 km/h with my K 70), dircetly from the entry-lane on the left lane, full throttle, and with "whoaarr" it accelerate quite fast to ca.170/180 km/h and has left me without any chance to follow.
It was a Morris Minor Traveller with Suzuki Jimny-wheels. Two hours later, on an oldtimer-meeting, I saw it again and have heard, how the owner has satd to annother guy "Yes, I've made something with the engine", but he don't want to tell more details...

chris40 UK

2008-08-24 12:38

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Ingo, I'd have discounted BAOR plates, which at the time were white-on-black and ended in B; these Fords had German civilian plates, IIRC mostly from the Ruhrgebiet. Maybe some dealer thereabouts had a fiddle going with a dealer in NL or B.
Re re-engining Minors: the width of the space under the bonnet is huge. V6 engines would probably fit quite easily, but V8s might require some surgery and ingenuity. In any case wheels, brakes and suspension would require some attention; the standard brakes were of the 'stop you just in time to avoid the accident - usually' variety [:sifflote]

Sunbar UK

2008-08-24 12:48

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Morris Minor Hot-rods with V8s fitted are a popular conversion either Rover V8s or American engines. As chris40 says the transmission, back axles, brakes are also swapped. Google 'Morris Minor V8' for some examples.

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