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1981 Jelcz SHL 3W-317 821 [W-317]
Zabijanie koni (1982)
Short chassis 317. Quick conversion of tractor (C-317) or it is a tipper (chassis W-317, type SHL 3W-317 821) with tilt. Bed looks like of the SHL's tipper. Very strange road set (and another strange Jelcz in this movie). 2017-05-10 20:29
1974 Autosan H9-03
Zabijanie koni (1982)
Perhaps indicator has been changed. In early ones it was rounded (seems of the same type), soon it was replaced by squared one, but rather placed vertically:
http://autosan.cba.pl/historia/historia08.html
2017-05-10 20:22
1971 Jelcz 315 M (Customized)
Zabijanie koni (1982)
[Image: 315m711.jpg]

It has headlamps placed in a way used since turn of 1980 and 1981, but much older indicators on the side of cab. I think it is old truck (1971+) with new cabine, but indicator lamps taken from the old one or only the front wall has been changed, the side crease on doors is 1974+...

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2017-05-10 20:16
Zabijanie koni (1982) [Image: 0zabko.jpg]
Info.

The Beetles [*]:
[Image: vwtyp1.jpg] [Vehicle Image 1033341]
2017-05-10 20:07
1993 Jiangling-Isuzu TFR
Xiao zhen da kuan (2000)
For example Jangling Isuzu made them, model TFR, 1993+... 2017-05-09 23:25
Jinghua BK 540
Ying (1979)
We can list it as "Jinghua" (ofc. Jinghua and not Jinghna - I did typo in my previous comment) basing on:
- model of another Beijing General Bus Assembly Plant 2 (BK)'s trolleybus named Jinghua:
Link to "maxpixel.freegreatpicture.com"
- comment of 3asv6 ( /vehicle.php?id=1032264 ):
3asv6 wrote All public bus only badged as "Jinghua", "Hongye" only badged minibus and coaches...

In this case, it's of course trolleybus and not bus, but 1st link shows it had to be valid also for other public transport vehicles.

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2017-05-09 22:59
Jinghua unknown
Sha Ou (1981)
Possible that there was some modification during production period. Here is nice scale model of same looking "troll." described as BK 540:
Link to "www.ezbustoys.com"
and here is model of its articulated version (BK 560) branded Jinghua:
Link to "maxpixel.freegreatpicture.com"

Of course it would be nicier, to be sure that the same is written on the model's holder (is it written there?) or to have described pic of the real thing.
2017-05-09 22:55
Zhujiang GZ 1020
Xiao shi de nu ren (1993)
The linked ons is even more exotic!

In case of the car on this page, I would go with Zhujiang GZ 5020 X, it looks exactly the same with this overlay (I can provide pic from catalogue tomorrow). Yangcheng had the same body, as we can see, but Zhujiang was direclty linked to Guangzhou company and YCACO/Yangcheng seems not - perhaps they just bought "naked" bodies from Gunagzhou.

EDIT: Just for the record - I've just opened 1999 edition of catalogue and there is Yangcheng also with this overlay (model YC 1021 QS) - but like I wrote above Zhujiang is better choice as default possibility.
Chinese cars which names started with 5 were special vehicles of all types, as Yangcheng made the same looking car with code, which starts with "1" (1021), it means this body/overlay wasn't unique only for special version and this way also in case of the Zhujiang it can be the "ordinary truck" version named GZ 1021.
Sorry for a little chaotic message, but having informations in many paper sources, you sometimes can't reach final conclusion in one go.

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2017-05-08 23:26
Yangcheng YC 1021
Xue se mei gui (1993)
It is Yangcheng YC 1021 made by YACCO Yangcheng Automobile Co. 2017-05-08 23:21
Wuhan unknown
Xiao shi de nu ren (1993)
In the years 1980-1991 Wuhan made model BJ 213 (or WJ 213), I can't find any pic of it.
The successor from the early 90s (WHQ64xx) looks different than the car in movie.
2017-05-08 23:04
SongLiao SLQ 6450
Xiao shi de nu ren (1993)
Jesus, so it really looks this way!
Another one was here few days ago: /vehicle.php?id=1031816
2017-05-08 22:49
Zhujiang GZ 1020
Xiao shi de nu ren (1993)
Have you seen Guangzhou exactly with the same look?
I'm asking, because the thicker B-pillar and the type of plastic overlay above bed is exactly like in Zhujiang GZ 5020 X, but maybe it had twin branded Guangzhou-Peugeot.
Zhujiangs were made by different daughter company of Guangzhou named Guangzhou Auto Plant, when cars made in direct cooperation with Peugeot were made by GPAC - Guangzhou-Peugeot Automobile Corporation.

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2017-05-08 22:45
Jinghua BG 660
Xizhao jie (1983)
By Beijing General Bus Assembly Plant 2 = brands Hongye or Jinghua. I think for bigger busses they used the Jinghua brand... 2017-05-08 12:58
Hongye BK 630
Shang yi dang (1992)
Same rear wall what here: /vehicle_1032223-Hongye-BK-630.html 2017-05-08 12:53
Hongye BK 630
Shang yi dang (1992)
Looks like another BK 630: /vehicle_1032223-Hongye-BK-630.html 2017-05-08 12:52
Hongye BK 630
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
/vehicle.php?id=1032223 2017-05-08 12:50
Hongye BK 630
Ying jia (1996)
/vehicle.php?id=1032148
/vehicle.php?id=1032223
2017-05-08 12:50
Hongye BK 630
Fu zi hun shi (1992)
So these with front window with curved edges can be finally named this way. 2017-05-08 12:50
1972 Tatra 148 S1
Proryv (1986)
S1 tipper
In 1st, 2nd, 4th (on the right) thumbs are visible 1979 "-2" S1s.
2017-05-08 12:39
1972 Tatra 148 S3
Poznavaya belyy svet (1979)
1972+ S3 2017-05-08 12:37
1972 Tatra 148 S3
Ivan Mládek: 14 Kubíků (1983)
1972+ S3 2017-05-08 12:37
1979 Tatra 148-2
Celebrity s.r.o. (2015)
Grille of 1979+ "-2". 2017-05-08 12:36
1972 Tatra 148 S3
Okresní přebor (2010)
S3 2017-05-08 12:35
1979 Tatra 148-2
Teorie tygra (2016)
Grille of 1979+ "-2" 2017-05-08 12:35
1972 Tatra 148 [PP]
Xizhao jie (1983)
1972+, PP was chassis for mixers. 2017-05-08 12:34
1977 Polski Fiat 125p [115C]
Xizhao jie (1983)
Looks like 1977+ badge.
Can be also 1981 if it has black trim of indicators, not well visible.

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2017-05-08 12:12
Jiefang CA 10
Jiu ceng yao ta (2015)
It was worth to delete hyphen from this truck model names, as in most of cases of the Chinese standarized names, we don't use it and it is early example of such name, only with 2 digits. 2017-05-07 19:43
unknown
Ying jia (1996)
Wanshan (WS 6xxx) and Yanjing (YJ 6xxx) made similar minibuses... 2017-05-07 17:07
Hongye BK 6581
Ying jia (1996)
With tall roof it is Hongye BK 6581 GH/G1 (another one in this movie).
The flat roof version in thumb is perhaps the older BK 630, which pic is hard to find (with description).
2017-05-07 16:59
Hongye BK 6581
Ying jia (1996)
Yes it is Hongye BK 6581 GH/G1 2017-05-07 16:56
Jilin JL 6-Series
Shang yi dang (1992)
Yes, it is the rear of the old Suzuki Carry, on which Jilin JL was based.
The license agreement was signed in 1980, worth to notice that before 1990 it perhaps was not named JL 63xx, as since mid 60s till around 1990 the standarized Chinese model names consisted of 2/3 letters and 3 figures (expanded to 4 around 1990), but some exceptions cannot be excluded.

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2017-05-07 14:53
1984 Citroën CX Série 1
Shang yi dang (1992)
1983-85 2017-05-07 14:38
1990 Fiat Uno S 2a serie
Ying jia (1996)
1990+ 2017-05-07 14:36
Mitsubishi Space Wagon
Ying jia (1996)
Since ca 1993 there was also Chinese made version of Space Wagon - Sanxing SXZ 6450. 2017-05-07 14:35
Huanghai DD 6-Series
Ying jia (1996)
Front wall (with all details) like in Huanghai buses, models DD 6xxx or DD 6xx, if they made this bus already before 1990. 2017-05-07 14:29
1993 Škoda Forman LX [Typ 785]
Ying jia (1996)
1993+ LX 2017-05-07 14:20
Hongye BK 6581
Ying jia (1996)
Looks like Hongye BK 6581 GH/G1... Can you take an earlier frame, to see what is hidden behind the girl's arm. 2017-05-07 14:18
unknown
Shang yi dang (1992)
Beijing/BLC (names with BJ) possibly. 2017-05-06 21:48
unknown
Ying (1979)
Very similar, except the grille, on the other hand Hongye with this design had such creases on the side too - still in the 90s.

In two topics dedicated to the 90s Hongyes BK6581, I met informations about its older version - model BK 630 with flat roof. Cannot find any pic of this model.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/1436822312
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/1837458752 (here they say that flat roof BK 630 is already very hard to find)
2017-05-06 21:31
Jinghua BK 540
Ying (1979)
Most of websites name it "BK 540", for example:
http://img.obj.cc/forum/201405/27/162641fwmmlrhhqq7vakzr.jpg
https://www.autowp.ru/unsorted/bk_540/pictures/iqowd1/
Link to "www.ezbustoys.com"
Link to "translate.google.pl"
Link to "translate.google.pl"

With BK started names of vehicles made by Beijing General Bus Assembly Pant 2, they used brands Hongye and Jinghna (but other brand cannot be excluded in case of so old vehicle IMO).
2017-05-06 20:58
unknown
Yi ge dou bu neng shao (1999)
Gulin. There is town Giuilin, but manufacturer I meant has only one "i". Gulin is also some geographic/administrative name BTW, they had it in the adress.

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2017-05-06 20:08
SongLiao SLQ 6450
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
Nissan Patrol copy with Cherokee (BJC) indicators? Sangliao made copies of Patrol (models SLQ: 6450Y, 2030, 2031) with flat fenders, very similar bumper, trim (and even foglamps), but they used nissanish indicators :/ 2017-05-06 19:59
Sanfeng TJ 622
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
This is the same design. Kegre if you have informations from some Chineese website that TJ 622 was the 1st model with this body, then we can go with this name. After all my paper source is not Chineese and is 20 years old. 2017-05-06 19:34
Jinghua BK 6100 Z
Mach, Šebestová a kouzelné sluchátko (2001)
All what I can say it that bumper, headlamps, indicators are indeed similar to those used in some Jinghua buses, but unfortunately I don't have pic of their bus, which would be a perfect match. 2017-05-06 19:30
Hongye BK 630
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
The same grille design one more time: /vehicle.php?id=1031141
BUT this time the badge (and windshield) is similar to the one of Hongye BK...
Hongye buses were based on Beijing chassis, so maybe the grille is of Beijing too...

EDIT: possibly it is the mentioned on linked page Hongye BK 630...

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2017-05-06 19:02
unknown
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
Minibus with the very same front wall (incl. grille, lights, crease below widnshield - everything) was still in production in the late 1990s. It was made back then by Beijing Yanjing Auto Factory as Yanjing YJ 6500, YJ 6501 (source "Ciężarówki Świata '97-'99).
One thing which is confusing - I'm not sure with this pic from movie does this van have the same lenght of the front overhang what Yanjings on the pics in catalogues...

EDIT: This front wall was also used in Wanshan (WS) minibus, but it had 0-2-0 door config. Maybe Yanjiang was the original manufacturer, or maybe together with Wanshan simply used front wall of manufacturer of the chassis... :/

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2017-05-06 18:57
1971 Mazda RX-2 [616]
Archer (2009-2017)
IMO it is enough similar to Mazda Capella/RX-2, like for the cartoon.
They had similar one in this series: /vehicle_477284-Mazda-RX-2-616-1971.html
2017-05-06 15:14
1983 Lada 2107 [2107-71]
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
2107 this time. 2017-05-06 15:08
Sanfeng TJ 622
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
Everything fits to Sanfeng TD 6481 B / TJ 6510, the difference had to be in engine. Made since 1988. Can't guarantee that there weren't its clones. 2017-05-06 15:03
unknown
Zhe bei zi bu qian ni (1994)
Maybe some hint - badge is simialr to the one of Jiuzhou cars (made by Jiangsu Shuyang Bus Works, their names started with SYC), they also used this grille and made some pick-ups, but no idea how did they look.

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2017-05-06 14:51

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