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1922 Leyland LB-Type
End of Empire (1985)
Not the normal London bus manufacture LGOC/AEC - about 1922 needs more investigation. 2015-03-17 12:45
1968 Daimler Limousine [DS420]
End of Empire (1985)
In appears to have the full length chrome trim (not the painted coach-line) so 1968 Daimler Limousine [DS420].

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2015-03-17 12:33
1954 Morris-Commercial LC5 ex-Royal Mail van
The Italian Job (1969)
September 1953 introduction for LC5 so 1954 model year. 2015-03-17 12:05
1954 Morris-Commercial LC5
Heartbeat (1992-2009)
September 1953 introduction for LC5 so 1954 model year. 2015-03-17 12:03
1945 Morris-Commercial CV
End of Empire (1985)
1945-50 Morris-Commercial CV 2015-03-17 12:00
1954 Morris-Commercial LC5
End of Empire (1985)
It appears to have single rear wheels therefore 1954 Morris-Commercial LC5 121" wheelbase truck with the BMC engine (or 1952 LC4 with the Morris engine but fewer produced).

edit: I was too slow this time, Lateef ;) however September 1953 introduction for LC5 so 1954 model year.

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2015-03-17 11:48
Ford Thames 800 [400E]
Hammerhead (1968)
I don't really want to get drawn into any long discussions, and needless to say in any Thames sales literature etc. the 'Ford' oval is always prominently displayed. This is unlike the Bedford and Vauxhall (General Motors) advertising where Bedford was unlikely to be said to be 'made by Vauxhall' as it was a separate GM (UK) division despite a lot of common management and departments.

However Thames vans and trucks were a separate brand and (at least locally to me) they had different sales outlets as they did not mix passenger and commercial sales.

For example see the London 1964 Commercial Motor Show with the 'Thames' stand.

[Image: thamestrucks.jpg] [Image: commercialmotorshow.jpg]

Always pleased to get others comments but Thames as a brand in the UK did exist I believe, at least in the 1950s and 1960s

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2015-03-16 17:26
1954 Dennis Centaur Willenhall Cab
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
Thank you dsl, I'm happy now that this was probably a publicity photo for Dennis shortly after the model's introduction.

edit: An April 1955 Road test has Shell-Mex/BP's 'OGT 502' also with the Willenhall cab which according to the article was an option to the normal coachbuilt cab.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: denniscentuarshelltanker.jpg]



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2015-03-15 14:47
1954 Dennis Centaur Willenhall Cab
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
johnfromstaffs wrote Dennis Centaur, 1958ish I think.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aceanorak/6314078315/


Can anybody confirm that 'OGT509' in the above link is from Sept-1953 to June-1954?

Shell-Mex/BP used Dennis at the time and this could be one of the first of this model for publicity purposes, they also had converted chinese-six Centaurs.

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2015-03-15 13:56
1954 Dennis Centaur Willenhall Cab
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
The Willenhall cab was being fitted by Dennis in 1954.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

The Dennis Centaur with the cab as initially introduced.

[Image: denniscentaur1951.jpg]
Sep-48 Centaur 7-Ton 5 litre 6cyl Diesel 162" wheelbase

[Image: denniscentaur1953.jpg]
May-53 Centaur 7-8 Ton 5˝ litre 6cyl Diesel 162" wheelbase

Eventually replaced by the Condor 8-Ton during 1956-57 I believe.
2015-03-15 13:41
1972 Bedford KM
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
1966 to 1984 Bedford KM 10-Ton (15-Ton gross) Medium Wheelbase Truck. 2015-03-14 20:10
1957 Leyland Octopus Havoline fuel tanker
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
Leyland Octopus perhaps, some of the details on the cab match, flat sides with two trim-stips and step on front wing.

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p958392327/h36b89359#h277d9e81
2015-03-14 18:40
1948 ERF DI6 7˝-Ton
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
Somehow changing the contrast, the name on the front registered with my brain, when looking for the registration number being potentially from Bedfordshire.

I remember Marston Valley Bricks from the 1950s and any journey from London to Bedford on the train would pass the brickworks. The brick lorries were a common sight at the time.

Past research on ERF trucks also paid off.

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2015-03-14 18:08
1948 ERF DI6 7˝-Ton
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
Found as 'FMJ 364' this was CI6 (CI682 actually) Marston Valley Bricks. - www.erfhistoricvehicles.co.uk (reg. date not known)



4496 FMJ 362 C1682 8W FLAT MARSTON VALLY BRICKS
4505 FMJ 363 C1682 8W FLAT MARSTON VALLY BRICKS
4521 FMJ 364 C1682 8W FLAT MARSTON VALLY BRICKS

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2015-03-14 15:24
1948 ERF DI6 7˝-Ton
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
The cab dates from 1936 as CI series (CI4, CI5 and CI6), followed by the DI series in the early 1940s. Each series were basically 3-ton 4-ton and 7˝-ton rigids 4,6 or 8 wheel (simple) trucks.

This looks like either ERF DI4 or DI5 (the light trucks) to me without a side view?

I think I can see Marston Bricks on the front?? Which would be Bedfordshire so FMJ registration - Jan 1948.

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2015-03-14 15:12
1914 Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies Orwell Electric
A Day In The Life Of A London Policeman (1917)
^ Yes, it appears to be the best description, Orwell being the model name. 2015-03-14 13:59
1933 Ford Model BF Tudor Sedan
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
dsl wrote ....

Anyone able to explain why police skid pan cars always seem to have their headlights removed - even recent footage?? Seems an odd habit, particularly when they leave the window glass intact in most cases.


Is it so that the cars are obviously not safe for normal road use?

I can understand why they may not remove the registration plates for example, in order to keep the car's identity.

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2015-03-14 13:35
1914 Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies Orwell Electric
A Day In The Life Of A London Policeman (1917)
Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies, the steam engine manufacturers, built the Orwell electric lorry from 1914 onwards.

http://archive.commercialmotor.com/page/6th-april-1916/4

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

http://www.ipswichtransportmuseum.co.uk/dx1664.htm
2015-03-14 13:28
1914 Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies Orwell Electric
A Day In The Life Of A London Policeman (1917)
An electric van looks likely - This Orwell is very similar (owned by GWR) before 1920.

[Image: gwrorwellelectric1929.jpg]

http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/27th-april-1920/8/the-gwr-otor-service
2015-03-14 13:00
AEC 35-50hp GWR 4-Ton railway van
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
AEC 35-50hp GWR 4-Ton looks more likely, and the details look very similar.

[Image: gwraec35-501929.jpg]

The Thornycroft PB 4-Ton also of GWR

[Image: gwrthornycroftpb1929.jpg]

Commercial Motor article from 1929 although the trucks are probably earlier...

http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/27th-august-1929/54/road-motor-services
2015-03-14 12:48
1968 Commer 1500 [PB]
London's Burning (1988-2002)
Commer 1500/2500 Series III [PA] 1966-67 or [PB] 1968-73 by the paired turn-indicators were fitted above the side-lights. PB more likely by quantity produced.

(Depending on country exported to also possible as the Dodge K120, K140, K160 or Fargo F120, F140, F160.)
2015-03-13 19:40
1968 Commer 1500 Post Office Telephones [PB]
Inside Out (1975)
The 1500/2500 Series III [PA] 1966-67 or [PB] 1968-73 by the lozenge shaped grille and paired turn-indicators fitted above the side-lights. PB more likely by quantity produced. 2015-03-13 19:33
1965 Karrier Gamecock HCB-Angus Water Tender [WC]
Carry on Girls (1973)
rattle on wrote The above have 72/73 L regs but the position and shape of the headlights mean they must have been built at the lastest around ninety seventy.In one of the close ups a different type of Karrier badge can be seen than the ones in the main picture.



The position and shape of the headlights correspond to Commer VB and Karrier WB 1965-67, the later models VC and WC were 1968 to 1972 and just possible for the 1972-3 'L' registration. The main picture looks to have the L registration also.
2015-03-12 19:57
1965 Karrier Gamecock [WB]
The Firefighters (1975)
1965-67 Gamecock [WB] 2015-03-12 19:28
1969 Karrier Bantam [FA]
Hazell (1978-1979)
Karrier Bantam production ended actually in 1977, however a 1979 'V' is still highly unlikely. 2015-03-12 17:53
1952 Karrier Bantam [F]
Tilbake til 60-tallet (2009)
Karrier Bantam [F-series] (and Gamecock [E-series]) from September 1952 onwards.

As its built on chassis-scuttle the windscreen (with radii on all corners) is not the standard Rootes part, the chassis could be [F] 1952-1959 or [FA] 1959-1970.
2015-03-12 17:45
1970 Karrier Bantam [FB]
The Sweeney (1975-1978)
Bantam FB series, September 1970-1977, 2 or 3-ton, 98" or 122" wheelbase truck. 2015-03-12 14:00
1970 Karrier Bantam [FB]
Raining Stones (1993)
Bantam FB series, September 1970-1977, 2 or 3-ton 98" wheelbase truck. 2015-03-12 13:58
1960 Karrier Bantam British Railways [FAVTK]
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Karrier Bantam orders from British Railways were from 1960 onwards, originally in the red and cream livery. The British Railways "Rail Freight" yellow livery was introduced from early 1963 onwards alongside the older red and cream livery as it was gradually phased out. There was also a short period (less than a year) of British Railways having a light grey livery before the yellow, but it was not widely adopted. 2015-03-12 12:50
1980 Vauxhall Chevette L
Police Officer (1984)
Looks like Vauxhall Bronze Gold Starfire Metallic from 1974 onwards. 2015-03-12 11:11
1960 Commer 1500 Series I [FC]
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Commer 1500 Series I [FC] 1960-1 (or Series II/IIa) single sidelights without turn signals.

Not certain but looks like a series I without grille.

Gown van possible although many bodies were added to this type of chassis-cab.
2015-03-11 19:13
1960 Karrier Bantam British Railways [FAVTK]
The Avengers (1961-1969)
/vehicle_794486-Karrier-Bantam-FAVTK.html 2015-03-11 18:51
1960 Karrier Bantam British Railways [FAVTK]
Look at Life: Under One Umbrella (1964)
/vehicle_794486-Karrier-Bantam-FAVTK.html 2015-03-11 18:49
1960 Karrier Bantam British Railways [FAVTK]
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Link to "www.commer.org.nz"

"This photo shows some of the order for 1250 Karrier Bantams built for British Rail emerging from the "in-house paint shop" to be handed to Sales (see the Planning and Production page here for more info on the significance of this building at Dunstable)

...these Bantams had their own special code - FAVTK 575 (FA model, V = OE160 light diesel, T=Tractor unit and K = BK type coupling" 575 = 5-ton 75" wheelbase tractor

Commer Connections
The Website for Commer and Karrier Enthusiasts
Link to "www.commer.org.nz"

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2015-03-11 18:44
1967 Morris FG
Between The Anvil And The Hammer (1973)
Morris fronts were commonised with the Austin grille design (during 1965 I believe).

/vehicle_650242-Morris-FG-1967.html

This coincided with the commonised fronts on the Austin and Morris J2 vans...

/vehicle.php?id=92234

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2015-03-11 17:13
1967 Morrison-Electricar D6
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Chassis looks like Morrison-Electricar (including the tapering pillar behind the cab).

/vehicle_455301-Morrison-Electricar-D6.html

[Image: mfloatside.jpg]
2015-03-11 15:49
1967 Vauxhall Viva SL [HB]
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Yes Viva HB - possibly with the 'SL' badge lower down? 2015-03-11 14:39
1964 Bedford CAS 10/12cwt Mk3
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Bedford CAS 10/12cwt Mk3 2015-03-11 14:31
1959 Bedford J3
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Yes Bedford J-type

1959 Bedford J3L or J4 (3 ton Truck 143" wheelbase 4 ton Truck 161" wheelbase). Looks to me not long enough for the 4-tonner probably J3L 143" wheelbase.
2015-03-11 14:21
1967 Vauxhall Victor 101 Estate Deluxe [FC]
The Magnificent Six and ˝: Kontiki Kids (1968)
Victor 101 [FC]

Link to "onlycarspictures.com"
2015-03-11 14:07
1955 Humber Super Snipe Mk IV
On The Beat - The British Policeman 1900-1984 (2007)
johnfromstaffs wrote .... Don't know the van behind the ragtop Morris Minor. Any guesses?



I think it probably could be an Austin LD high roofed van.

/vehicle_763465-Austin-LD-1958.html
2015-03-11 12:40
1967 Morris FG
Ai qing de dai jia (1970)
... and after 1967 for round sidelights. 2015-03-11 11:22
1967 Morris FG
Between The Anvil And The Hammer (1973)
From 1967 onwards by round (not rectangular) sidelights.

Badge outline above the upper grille (not 'LEYLAND' lettering in the centre), indicates Austin or Morris. It does not appear to be BMC either with separate letters in same position as Austin/Morris badge.

So 1967 Morris FG (or 1967 Austin S200/T200 or larger [FG]).
2015-03-11 11:19
1969 unknown
Royal Stirling (1972)
'RWF 686G' from the video. 2015-03-10 20:09
1924 Hispano-Suiza H6 B Bligh touring body
Royal Stirling (1972)
[Image: strilingtourer3.jpg]

Not Rolls-Royce I believe. A diagonal maker's script is just visible on the radiator.
2015-03-10 20:07
1953 Vauxhall Wyvern [EIX]
The British Policeman (1959)
About 1952 with the name by the headlight not the door shut-line. Velox or Wyvern both possible I think from this view. 2015-03-09 20:57
1955 Bedford A Type
Life In The Orkneys (1957)
1955 onwards, without the rectangular side-lights & chrome trim. 2015-03-09 20:48
1954 Bedford A Type Coca-Cola delivery truck
The British Policeman (1959)
March 1953- 1954 A-type, by the rectangular side-lights & chrome trim, probably 4-ton (or 5-ton) long wheelbase Truck 167" wheelbase. 2015-03-09 20:47
1958 AEC Mammoth Major G6 MkV
Unit Beat Policing (1968)
AEC Mammoth Major?? 2015-03-09 17:20
1958 Vauxhall Cresta [PA]
Unit Beat Policing (1968)
I would agree - PA Velox or Cresta the ribbed bumper surface is a good indication.

Link to "www.curbsideclassic.com"
2015-03-09 17:10

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