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1911 LGOC B-Type
London's Sunday (1924)
Only found one X-type bus in LT photographic collection (but possibly more to be found) so chances are low I guess...

Link to "www.ltmcollection.org"

One to be aware of for the future!
2016-01-24 16:33
Cosmopolitan London (1924)
dsl wrote ....

.... "crimpies and harpies"???


Crimps (rather than crimpies) - roughians or bullies in general, stealing from seamen when on shore.

Previously, Shanghaiing or crimping refers to the practice of kidnapping people to serve as sailors by coercive techniques such as trickery, intimidation, or violence.

Harpies - women who got seamen drunk only to steal from them.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-25 14:27:16
2016-01-24 16:23
1911 LGOC B-Type
London's Sunday (1924)
A quick search shows the B-type bus in use by the autumn of 1910 (agreeing with the IMCDb date for AEC B-type) before AEC was formed.

johnfromstaffs, I agree with renaming all B-types as 'LGOC' (a web-based search shows far more hits for LGOC than AEC). Other buses (K-type etc) to remain as AEC.

If there are no other comments supporting 'AEC' I agree we should change.
2016-01-24 15:18
1911 LGOC B-Type
London's Sunday (1924)
I have a slight preference for continuing to call them all AEC, as the manufacturer, despite LGOC being the operator and the controlling company.

However both cases 'LGOC' and 'AEC' can be argued for but then we would then have to determine a break-point if LGOC was to be used for the early buses and AEC for the later ones.

Some of the history...
"Where the B-Type Buses are Built" October 1912,

Associated Equipment Co. Ltd. formed June 1912 with an authorised capital of 2500,000 in 210 shares, also 94 per cent, of the ordinary stock of the (LGOC) company has been acquired by the Underground Electric Railways Co. of London, Ltd.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-24 14:04:55
2016-01-24 13:58
Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
Cosmopolitan London (1924)
Front and radiator looks like Unic to me also. 2016-01-24 12:19
1907 Renault 9CV Taxi [Type AG]
Cosmopolitan London (1924)
Yes, most likely a Renault Taxi, for what is seen of the bonnet. 2016-01-24 12:15
1912 Leyland A Type 'Subsidy' rebuilt as brewery truck
Barging Through London (1924)
It appears prior to WWI London breweries mainly used steam waggons but after 1918 I guess the availability of heavier petrol trucks replaced steam.

No great information was found so far in the CM archive of what trucks were used in the early 1920s, by Trumans (or others).
2016-01-23 14:46
1912 Leyland A Type 'Subsidy' rebuilt as brewery truck
Barging Through London (1924)
I think a rebuilt Leyland A-type Subsidy, bonnet sides with low louvre position and two side handles all match.

[Image: leylandsubs.jpg]
2016-01-23 13:37
1922 AEC S-Type
Barging Through London (1924)
AEC S-Type by the window arrangement (without the front short section as on the NS-Type). 2016-01-23 11:29
1914 Unic 12/14 hp Funeral Van
Barging Through London (1924)
Unic yes, for the radiator including the correct 'Unic' script position.

Mann and Overton from 1910 also showed delivery vans as well as taxis based on the Unic chassis.

The funeral van or a police van idea is possible as the van looks very advanced in design delivery vans were normally very basic in 1910.
2016-01-22 21:13
1986 Britannia 4x2 Norba body on Seddon-Atkinson chassis
Looking After Jo Jo (1998)
^ kudos, no problem. It served to fire-up further investigation!

The challenge now is to find if that front wheel drive concept vehicle made any film appearances?
2016-01-22 14:47
1986 Britannia 4x2 Norba body on Seddon-Atkinson chassis
Looking After Jo Jo (1998)
Britannia on the Seddon Atkinson 200-Series (the 211 when available) truck chassis, from May 1986.

There will be a choice of chassis cab models.
Two will be available on 16.26 tonne GVW chassis, one with a 2.18m narrow cab and the other of a standard 2.49m width.
A third standard cab will be offered on a 24.39 tonne GVW three-axled chassis which is also available at 20 tonne GVW with Granning third axle conversion.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: britannia6x44x2.jpg]
2016-01-22 13:35
1986 Britannia 4x2 Norba body on Seddon-Atkinson chassis
Looking After Jo Jo (1998)
The movie vehicle appears to be a normal rear wheel drive layout to me?

Similar to this...
"This vehicle is an interesting blend of modern technology, combining as it does the recently-developed Britannia crew-cab and Perkins Phaser engine with the well proven Seddon Atkinson M24P18 municipal chassis.."

CM Road test Britannia/Seddon Atkinson but with Colectomatic body.
"Jack Allen and its subsidiary Britannia Trucks both use Seddon Atkinson's popular 4x2 and 6x4 municipal chassis-cabs."

The front-wheel drive concept vehicle developed by Bass breweries and Chassis Developments of Dunstable.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

-- Last edit: 2016-01-22 13:14:37
2016-01-22 12:55
1983 Dodge 50 Series [S56]
Looking After Jo Jo (1998)
Dodge 50-Series introduced June-1979
Variants available as chassis-cabs or chassis-scuttle only for bodies by others (no 'in-house' build of vans or buses).
S35 3.5t
S46 4.6t
S56 5.6t
S66 6.6t
S75 7.5t

Renault badged from December 1987

Dodge 50 Series specifications

Renault 50 Series changes

-- Last edit: 2016-01-22 12:29:20
2016-01-22 12:04
1986 Jaguar XJ-SC 5.3 V12 [XJ27]
Ein Fall für Zwei (1981-2016)
Not XJ77.

Rather a XJ27 cabriolet conversion by Tickford prior to the XJ77 convertible release, by the roof-form and quarter-lites in the door glasses.
2016-01-20 15:53
1995 Vauxhall Astra Merit MkIII
The Missing Postman (1997)
The same oval shape I think also probably its size, comparing it to the distance from the door shut-line).

[Image: t95.jpg]

Not 100% sure but I doubt there is a difference.

Another slightly interesting observation... It appears the Opel Calibra does not need a side repeater light at all, however the
Vauxhall Calibra has one fitted?

-- Last edit: 2016-01-20 13:02:26
2016-01-20 13:00
1995 Vauxhall Astra Estate Merit MkIII
EastEnders (1985-2016)
Astra Facelift from August 1994 brochure was available in 'Merit' hatch & estate, 'LS' hatch saloon estate, 'GLS' hatch saloon estate and 'Sport' hatch & estate versions.

This has Merit bumpers (all black below the lower half all others were colour-coded).

The brochure indicated all models had clear lenses, new grille shape and new headlamp shape (from previous model).

I suspect Vauxhall down-spec'd the Merit to amber lenses at some point - the examples in Sandie's link are true facelift versions (door mirror shape changed to 'Calibra style' not an easy change like the grille). Vauxhall could potentially respec cars independently of Opel if standard parts were used.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-19 19:27:20
2016-01-19 19:21
1966 Morris LD 'Black Maria'
Charlie Bubbles (1967)
The grille's top bar is too wide (too near the headlamp) for the original Morris style grille (1955-1966).

If Morris it has the commonised Austin/Morris grille from about 1966.
2016-01-19 14:40
Charlie Bubbles (1967)
dsl wrote .... the FX4 more difficult - looks a 63+ suffix plate, but I'm unsure when front indicators replaced bubbles on roof - it may be 67-68, so brand new for filming. Or I'm wrong and it doesn't have front indicators. ....

The front indicators were added mid-late 1968 when the rear-lights were changed and the 'bunny-ears' on the roof removed so after filming.
2016-01-19 14:06
1934 Austin 12/4 Taxi Low Loader
Three Comrades (1938)
For its general appearance yes, looks like an Austin 12/4 Taxi Low-Loader. 2016-01-19 12:19
1942 ERF CI6 15-Ton Tractor Unit
The Franchise Affair (1951)
Probably a CI6...

[Image: erfcitractorunit1.jpg]
ERF CI6 Tractive Unit for Pay-loads of 20 Tons & 14-15 Tons - September 1939

Cab looks earlier than an ERF DI6 unit to me.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-18 14:24:41
2016-01-18 13:50
Father Brown (2013-2016) Series 4 completed.

Some aircraft action...

[Image: fb4-07aircraft22.jpg] [Image: fb4-07aircraft11.jpg] [Image: fb4-07aircraft33.jpg]
Episode 4.07 [*][*][*]
2016-01-16 20:42
1954 Wolseley 4/44
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Also CEJ978 was briefly seen in episode 4-10 through a window...

[Image: 4-091combined.jpg]
2016-01-16 20:19
1950 Wolseley 6/80
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-0424-2011.jpg] [Image: fb4-1039-482.jpg] [Image: fb4-02lgt17406.jpg]

Used throughout series 4, including episode 4.04 and a car chase in episode 4.10 (above).
2016-01-16 17:16
1951 Ford Pilot V8 [E71A]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: 4-093-232.jpg] [Image: 4-093-233.jpg]

EJT678 a Ford Pilot

Vehicle make FORD PILOT
Date of first registration 23 January 1951
Year of manufacture 1951
Cylinder capacity (cc) 3622cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour BLACK
2016-01-16 16:55
1929 Lea-Francis 12/40 P-Type
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-1023-059.jpg] [Image: fb4-1010-495.jpg]

Vehicle make LEA FRANCIS
Date of first registration 22 July 1929
Year of manufacture 1929
Cylinder capacity (cc) 1479cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour GREEN
2016-01-16 16:18
1951 Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith Touring Limousine H.J. Mulliner [WME65]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-1010-454.jpg]

Registration number: NWS 3

Vehicle make ROLLS ROYCE
Date of first registration 13 August 1951
Year of manufacture 1951
Cylinder capacity (cc) 4257cc
Vehicle colour BLACK
2016-01-16 15:57
1938 Wolseley 18/85 Police [Series III]
The Franchise Affair (1951)
'Melford' in a clip from the movie is near to Aylesbury which coincides with the bus registration 'KX' for Buckinghamshire, so the northern home counties, about 30-40 miles from London not far from the Elstree studios. 2016-01-15 19:29
1939 Bedford OY
Man in the Middle (1964)
Almost certain yes, from what is visible. 2016-01-15 13:40
1939 Bedford MWD
Man in the Middle (1964)
Not too early. After mid-1940, the bonnet sides have the slots rather than mesh inserts.

The removal of the aero-screens and the adoption of more of a closed cab design was from 1943 according to a couple of web-sources including Danish Army Vehicles - past and present but I believe it could have been sometime during 1942.
2016-01-15 13:22
1958 Rover 3 Litre Saloon [P5]
L'albatros (1971)
^ electra225, Rear door glass area and C pillar looks more like the Cortina MkII, the rear quarter-lite on the Arrow series looks larger compared with the remaining glass areas IMHO. 2016-01-14 18:53
1938 Standard Flying V-Eight Twenty [20AV]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Seen again in episode 4.08

[Image: fb4-0810-582.jpg]
0:08:10 [*]
2016-01-14 13:20
1951 Bedford M-Type Tipper
Father Brown (2013-2016)
... and again in episode 4.08

[Image: fb4-0826-001.jpg]
0:26:00 [*]
2016-01-14 13:04
Truckers (1987)
Rather see this as the Ford D series, the curved wheel-arch and general shape are not the same as the Leyland G-series cab. 2016-01-13 21:09
1949 Fordson 10cwt Van Flatbed conversion [E83W]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Main picture replaced with better screen capture and the only vehicle used in episode 4.03. 2016-01-13 14:33
1941 Bedford OYD
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Main picture replaced - listing combined with a vehicle from a later episode.

[Image: fb4-05bedfordside7.jpg]

Episode 4.07

Vehicle make BEDFORD
Date of first registration 10 June 1988
Year of manufacture 1941
Cylinder capacity (cc) 3519cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour GREEN
2016-01-13 13:27
1954 Rover 60 [P4]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Also seen again in episode 4.07

[Image: fb4-073-531.jpg] [Image: fb4-05roverside1.jpg] [Image: fb4-05roverrear9.jpg]
0:03:53 [*][*]
2016-01-13 13:10
1950 Austin A125 Sheerline [DS1]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
...and again in episode 4.07

[Image: fb4-073-494.jpg]
0:03:49 [*][*]
2016-01-13 12:27
1952 Bentley Mk.VI Standard Steel Saloon [B252PV]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
The only possible extra view of the rear is as the car draws away, a slight glimpse of the top hump of the boot is seen. No interior views are seen at all.

[Image: fb4-05bentleyboot1.jpg]
2016-01-13 12:23
DAF 1600 [FA]
Truckers (1987)
The first thumbnail looks to be a G-series cab, two different trucks, I think...

No Leyland cab had that extremely long 'cab-before-engine' configuration that I can think of unless I have missed something?

edit Also the DAF cab has no centre-rear window glass that I can see, but the G-series Leyland has one.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-12 20:36:09
2016-01-12 20:34
1952 Sunbeam-Talbot 90 [Series IIa]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Listings combined both appearances in episodes 1.02 (January 2013) and 4.05 (January 2016) appear to be 'HUT436'

HUT436 with mirrors on A-pillars in 2011

HUT436 with wing mirrors in 2013

'Sunbeam-Talbot 90' badge visible in episode 4.05.

Previous main picture Ep. 1.02 00:09:15 [*] Background vehicle

[Image: i610569.jpg]
2016-01-12 19:37
Austin S200 [FG]
That Man Bolt (1973)
The rear track with probable single rears says it should be Austin S200 (S=single T-Twin). 2016-01-12 16:04
1951 Jaguar XK 120 Roadster
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-0438-26jaguar205.jpg]

Vehicle make JAGUAR
Date of first registration 01 July 1997
Year of manufacture 1951
Cylinder capacity (cc) 3400cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour RED
2016-01-12 15:44
1952 Bentley Mk.VI Standard Steel Saloon [B252PV]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-0418-06bentley03.jpg] [Image: fb4-04bentley06.jpg]


Vehicle make BENTLEY
Date of first registration 01 July 1952
Year of manufacture 1952
Cylinder capacity (cc) 4566cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour BLACK

-- Last edit: 2016-01-12 15:38:15
2016-01-12 15:33
Austin LD Ambulance Appleyard
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-06austinld310.jpg] [Image: fb4-06austinld01.jpg] 2016-01-12 15:01
1951 Alvis TA 21 Drophead Coupé
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Main picture changed after appearance in a later episode.

[Image: fb4-06alvis0-5303.jpg] [Image: fb4-06alvisfrt06.jpg]

Radiator mascot removed but same registration apparently.
2016-01-12 14:52
1951 Bedford M-Type Tipper
Father Brown (2013-2016)
Also seen briefly in episode 4.02 [*]

[Image: fb4-02bedm01.jpg] [Image: m-type.jpg]
2016-01-12 14:31
1951 Riley 1½-litre RMA
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-04102.jpg] [Image: fb4-048-36jsc___06.jpg]

Probably JSC941 although the full number-plate is not visible...


JSC941, a Riley 1.5 Litre (Saloon)

Date of first registration 01 November 1951
Year of manufacture 1951
Cylinder capacity (cc) 1496cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour BLACK
2016-01-12 12:45
1954 Sunbeam Alpine Mk.I
Father Brown (2013-2016)
[Image: fb4-049-0308.jpg] [Image: fb4-0424-2912.jpg]

LSG588, a Sunbeam Alpine (Sports)

Vehicle make SUNBEAM
Date of first registration 15 June 1954
Year of manufacture 1954
Cylinder capacity (cc) 2267cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour BLUE

Unusually for this series there was no front view of the vehicle.
2016-01-12 12:26
1949 Triumph 2000 Roadster [TRA]
Father Brown (2013-2016)
KXD50, a Triumph (Sports)

Date of first registration 14 June 1949
Year of manufacture 1949
Cylinder capacity (cc) 2088cc
Vehicle status Tax not due
Vehicle colour RED

[Image: fb4-047-0403.jpg] [Image: fb4-047-08204.jpg]
2016-01-12 12:12

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