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1961 Bedford CAL Mk2
London on the Move (1970)
CAL mk.II smaller windscreen and large cab glass (smaller wheels 13" were 15" I believe).

Standard equipment CA MkII 13in diameter wheels after September 1960, instead of the 15in diameter wheels MkI and MII to September 1959

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2014-08-18 20:05
1954 Commer BF
London on the Move (1970)
The front wing intrudes into the cab door not a Commer BF more likely a Trojan van (bonnet louvres just seen).

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p889160369/h1b759905#h1b759905

Confirmation required, only 50% certain..
2014-08-18 20:02
1968 Vauxhall Victor Deluxe [FD]
London on the Move (1970)
1968 F registered, looks to be base model. 2014-08-18 19:52
1941 Bedford OWL
Le train (1973)
Civilian 5-tonner 1941-41 Bedford OWL not military Bedford OY 3-ton (or later conversion) despite the military appearance. Also on later Bedfords if civilian spec vehicles were used in miliary applications the civilian model name applied.

/vehicle_430919-Bedford-OY-GS-1939.html .

Absence of low pressure tyres with the military type wheels and ride height given by the different springs/suspension as here /vehicle_48186-Bedford-OYD.html.
2014-08-18 19:38
1941 Bedford OWL
Peak District (1954)
Civilian 5-tonner 1941-41 Bedford OWL not military Bedford OY 3-ton.

Not low pressure tyres with the military type wheels as here /vehicle_48186-Bedford-OYD.html.
2014-08-18 19:11
1945 Bedford OWL
Ballade pour un voyou (1963)
1941-45 Bedford OWL 2014-08-18 17:57
1941 Bedford OWL
Derby Day (1952)
1941-45 Bedford OWL 2014-08-18 17:56
1985 Bedford CF Ambulance Hanlon Hi Line
One Foot in the Grave (1990-2000)
2.3 litre (2279cc) Vauxhall slant-four so 'CF' facelift not 'CF2' which had 2.0 litre GM petrol or 2.3 litre GM diesel from mid 1984. The chassis cowl built before mid 1974 with the ambulance body completed later. 2014-08-18 16:50
1986 Bedford CF Ambulance 3.3 litre Wadham Stringer
London's Burning (1988-2002)
CF 3.3 litre Model numbers 97590 25cwt & 97790 35cwt - Automatic only supplied as chassis cowl painted 'cargo white'.

edit: in this case also 'CF2' as after 1985.

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2014-08-18 16:38
1936 Riley 12/4 Lynx Tourer
Foyle's War (2002-2014)
For it to be a Riley Lynx 12/4 tourer it would need to be a late 1935 car registered in 1936 (12/4 chassis) rather than the new 1½ litre chassis.

source: http://rileyrob.co.uk/specs/12-4.htm

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2014-08-18 14:40
1937 Riley 1½-litre Lynx Tourer
A View From the Bass (1963)
I also know nothing of value about Riley cars of this era, but from source: http://rileyrob.co.uk/specs/12-4/lynx4.htm

"Riley 12/4 Lynx (1934-35) Chassis Types: 22T the original 12/4 chassis. Engine: 1496cc.


Riley 1½ Lynx (1936-38) Chassis Types: (S)26L / 27L / 28L. Engine: 1496cc.

The Lynx was the least changed from its 12/4 predecessor. The chassis featured the same upgrades as the Falcon and Kestrel which were the only other bodystyles carried forward, but the Lynx body was carried over virtually unchanged."

Hence year determines slight chassis and body changes from "12/4 Lynx" to "1½(litre) Lynx" I believe.
2014-08-18 14:34
1958 Morris LD High-roof delivery van
Portrait of Queenie (1964)
I doubt its a gown van. The signwriting on the side is not clear but it looks to be a normal wholesale delivery vehicle (possibly insulated for cold or frozen foods)by what looks like a small single door at the rear, I think, in the video. 2014-08-18 13:17
1958 Morris LD High-roof delivery van
Portrait of Queenie (1964)
Both I believe Austin or Morris badging used because of separate dealer networks.

Austin or Morris LD 1 or 1½ ton with the normal domed hubcaps removed - not a 2-tonner I believe.

This looks to be a chassis-cab with body by a separate supplier (not Austin/Morris).

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2014-08-18 12:26
1945 Bedford OWLD
Portrait of Queenie (1964)
johnfromstaffs wrote I didn't know about the OW, but it would make sense to make all front ends to the same standard to save time and material during war. I wonder why the OWB still used the civvy front?


It was only the 5-tonner O-type that had the wartime 'Ministry of Supply' front end, the 1939-45 vans and civilian K-types and M-types also continued unchanged but in very limited numbers, production only being suspended at the start of the war but allowed to restart in 1941-2.

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2014-08-18 12:06
1941 Bedford OWLD
The Last Page (1952)
john from Staffs wrote Choose your own chassis type- link broken


Fleetdata link no longer works so details as follows...

Bedford's civilian essential wartime usage standard trucks based on Ministry of Supply OX & OY trucks and bus chassis.
(improved C & U regulations introduced)

1942-45 Bedford OWB 26/32 seat Bus, usually Duple bodied replaced by Bedford OB
1941-45 Bedford OWLC 5 ton long wheelbase - 157" Chassis Cab
1941-45 Bedford OWLD 5 ton long wheelbase - 157" Dropside Truck replaced by Bedford OLB
1941-45 Bedford OWLE 5 ton long wheelbase - 157" Platform Truck
1941-45 Bedford OWSC 5 ton short wheelbase Chassis Cab
1941-45 Bedford OWST 5 ton short wheelbase End Tipper Truck replaced by Bedford OSBT

1939-45 vans and civilian K-types and M-types continued unchanged but in very limited numbers, production only being suspended at the start or the war but allowed to restart in 1941-2.
2014-08-18 12:01
1986 Bedford CF Ambulance 3.3 litre Wadham Stringer
London's Burning (1988-2002)
1986 Bedford CF Ambulance Wadham Stringer as here... /vehicle_94905-Bedford-CF-Ambulance.html

Date of Liability 01 12 1996
Date of First Registration 19 12 1986
Year of Manufacture 1986
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3298cc
Vehicle Colour WHITE
2014-08-17 19:57
unknown Ambulance
In the Doghouse (1962)
johnfromstaffs wrote http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMMER-25-cwt-Superpoise-brochure-E-09-1950-/230407048889

I only said "looks like".


Thats as I understood your comment... Something to discuss. :/ However someone confirmed it prematurely.


'Commer Superpoise 25cwt' also was fairly vague so also needed clarification therefore at best it it should have waited for more discussion.
2014-08-17 19:16
unknown Ambulance
In the Doghouse (1962)
The proportions look about right with this 'Ford V8 Ambulance' (in commercialmotor.com again!) but no actual model.

[Image: ford8cylvan.jpg]

"An ambulance completes the range of commercial vehicles exhibited by the Ford concern. Mounted on the special Ford V-8 ambulance chassis, the body is fitted for two stretcher cases, one sitting patient and an attendant. Complete equipment is provided and every detail is of high quality."

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2014-08-17 17:14
1939 Bedford WLG 2 ton
In the Doghouse (1962)
A Bedford WLG with horizontally split windscreen, so some did have them! Also the main picture could possibly be the same.

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p683680186/h144cc1e3#h507b3ce8
2014-08-17 15:52
1939 Bedford WLG 2 ton
In the Doghouse (1962)
The lower part looks to be body coloured (painted) to me.

Almost like the original windscreen was damaged and replaced with a rectanguler glass only about two-thirds the original's height? Possibly its hinged at the top and slightly open but the lower area does not look like glass to me.
2014-08-17 15:44
1939 Bedford WLG 2 ton
In the Doghouse (1962)
Its the wiper arm and blade, pivoted from the top, that is seen I believe.

edit: (2) two different registrations? but same series.

Main picture has a Bedford standard windscreen

The thumbnail, the windscreen is not the standard 'Bedford' style (curved edge at the bottom) so it is coachbuilt.

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2014-08-17 13:57
unknown Ambulance
In the Doghouse (1962)
Ambulance (or less likely police van) yes, but I cannot see a Commer Superpoise 30cwt van here?

Which series or year?
2014-08-17 13:54
1939 Bedford M-Type 2-3 ton
In the Doghouse (1962)
1939-53 Bedford M-type 2-3 ton long wheelbase 'ML' Truck

Three sets of bonnet slots of equal length and normal control not O-type's semi-forward control.
2014-08-17 13:36
1939 Bedford WLG 2 ton
In the Doghouse (1962)
The Bedford WTL 3-ton was a semi-forward control truck with two-piece windscreen...

With a one-piece windscreen and normal control its a 1934-1939 Bedford WLG 2 ton 143" long wheelbase Truck

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p683680186/h507b3cc6#h507b3cc6
2014-08-17 13:30
1936 Morris-Commercial T3 1-Ton
La mémoire courte (1963)
T-types were 'T1' 1924-1931, 'T2' 1931-1936 and 'T3' 1936-1938, from the little I have found...

http://www.morriscommercialclub.co.uk/books1.html book on the development of the Morris ‘T’ Type Tonner. 48 pages, including the T2 and T3.

Apparantly the Morris-Commercial T3 1-ton replaced the T2, the only T3 identified to date - source: The Historic Commercial Vehicle Society.

Link to "www.hcvs.co.uk"

Identified as "1938 Morris-Commercial T3 GRA845"

Link to "www.hcvs.co.uk"
2014-08-17 11:39
To Be a Woman (1951) Dennis 2-ton, Fordson 1-ton or Morris-Commercial are all possibilities.

Between 1935 and 1936 the LMS railway company ordered nearly 900 vehicles as the programme from the following manufacturers....

AEC Matador 14-ton Gardner-engined articulated eight-wheeled tractor units.

Albion 5-ton chassis

Albion 4-ton hand operated tipping lorry.

Dennis 2-ton normal control chassis and cabs, fitted with flat bodies in the L.M.S. works

Dennis 2-ton forward control chassis With 'parcels van bodies

Dennis 2-ton normal-control chassis with moving-floor bodies.

Fordson chassis (13-ft 1-in wheelbase) with cabs, bodies will be fitted at the L.M.S. works

Fordson chassis (10-ft. 11-in, wheelbase) with parcels van, bodies will be fitted at the L.M.S. works

Fordson 1-ton chassis with parcels van, bodies will be fitted at the L.M.S. works.

Fordson 2-ton trucks including tippers.

Jowett 10-cwt light parcels vans

Jowett 10-cwt light lorry

Karrier 3-ton Cob Junior mechanical-horse tractors.

Morris-Commercial chassis pantechnicon

Morris-Commercial tractors.

Raleigh three-Wheeled light vans.

Scammell 6-ton mechanical horse tractors

Scammell 3-ton mechanical-horse tractors.

Lister Auto Trucks,

Lansing Bagnall tractors.

Mercury tractors.
2014-08-16 19:55
1936 Morris-Commercial T3 1-Ton
La mémoire courte (1963)
Identified on aecsouthall.co.uk as T2 but 1932-1938, (a later or updated? model). Despite another source saying T2 ended in 1936?

I will research the wealth of information that is the Commercial Motor Magazine archives for same...

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p602112141/h2d2a9c46#h2d2a9c46
2014-08-16 18:02
1936 Morris-Commercial T3 1-Ton
La mémoire courte (1963)
T-types were 'T1' 1924-1931 and 'T2' 1931-1936 I believe

http://www.iamo.org.uk/commdirectory.htm

Bonnet looks too long and front mudguards to large and rounded for T1 or T2...
2014-08-16 17:25
1931 Morris-Commercial T2 1-Ton GPO Telephones
Nation on Film: Selling Cars
Standardised on 'T2'

Currently reviewing the other early Morris-Commercials...

T-types were 'T-type' 1924-1931 (or 'T1' although not called that at the time) and 'T2' 1931-1936

All the current IMCDb early Morris-Commercial '1-ton' trucks, vans and ambulance listings are I believe the 'T-type' (or 'T1')
The only current IMCDb 'T-type' looks to be incorrectly identified.

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2014-08-16 17:20
1931 Morris-Commercial T2 1-Ton GPO Telephones
Nation on Film: Selling Cars
1931-1936 Morris-Commercial T2-Type 1-Ton.

Morris rather than Morris Commercial would be a car based van so 10-15cwt maximum, this is 1-ton or more likely 25cwt.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2014-08-16 14:59
1924 Morris Cowley Van 'Snubnose'
Valiant (2005)
1924-1929 Morris Cowley 'Snubnose' van (later the 1931-1933 Morris Light Van)

http://www.svvs.org/genpics12/1928_Morris_Hig_Top_Light_Van.jpg

http://www.iamo.org.uk/commdirectory.htm
2014-08-16 13:58
1926 Morris Oxford Bullnose Saloon
The Open Road (1926)
Probably Morris Oxford Saloon (Bullnose) similar to here, but different coachbuilt body...

Link to "www.flickr.com"
2014-08-16 12:54
1936 Morris 10cwt Van
Poirot (1989-2014)
Also seen in Marple: By the Pricking of My Thumbs, 2006 [*] in Foyle's War, 2002-2014 [*] and in 10 Rillington Place, 1971 [*][*]

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2014-08-16 12:15
1931 Morris Light Van 8-10cwt 'Flat Nose'
Small Island (2009)
1931-33 Morris Light Van 8-10cwt based on the 'flat-nosed' Cowley, (Morris rather than Morris Commercial as its a car based van).

http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/4th-august-1931/66/a-capable-van

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gwoodward/8201720286/
2014-08-16 11:33
1929 Morris-Commercial R-Type 25/30 cwt
Poirot (1989-2014)
Appears to be an R-type rather than L-type 1-ton plus chassis number could also be an indication.

1928 Morris-Commercial R-Type 25/30 cwt
2014-08-15 21:00
1928 Morris-Commercial R-Type 25/30 cwt
Piccadilly (1929)
1928-1933 Morris-Commercial R-Type 25/30 cwt.

Introduced as the 25cwt truck in 1928 larger than the 1924-1931 Morris-Commercial T-Type 1-tonner with flat dash-panel not formed as the 1-tonner.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: 1928morris-commercialr-type.jpg]
2014-08-15 20:52
1936 Riley 12/4 Lynx Tourer
Foyle's War (2002-2014)
Almost certainly 'ABL 6' 1936 Riley Lynx 12/4 tourer

http://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkboy1/14338680689/
2014-08-15 13:09
1934 Austin 12/4 Van 7-10cwt
Pierrepoint (2005)
The Austin 12/4 7-10cwt van cost £172 10s in 1934. Austin chassis/scuttle with the van (or pickup) body added by another maker.

1931 Road Test Austin 12/4 Van 1861cc with a standard Austin body ...

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2014-08-14 15:38
1962 Morris LD Ambulance Smith-Appleyard Statesman Mk2
Rush (2013)
Smith-Appleyard Statesman ambulance was built on both LD and FG chassis, but more commonly LD.

Austin or Morris LD 1-Ton or 1½-Ton chassis transferred to 1958 onwards 2-Ton LD chassis by the twin rear wheels, (Commonly used on larger Royal Mail vans).

Alternatively Austin or Morris FG chassis again initially 1½-Ton increased to 2-Ton.
http://www.travellerhomes.co.uk/?p=2032
2014-08-13 14:29
1963 Morris FG K100 [FG]
Department S (1969-1970)
The FG 5-tonner K100 version was introduced at the time of the Scottish Motor Show in November, 1961, but which only went into full production during 1963. 2014-08-13 13:16
1963 Morris FG K100
The Big Mill (1963)
Introduced at the time of the Scottish Motor Show in November, 1961, but which only went into full production during 1963. So the documentary probably shows the first trucks produced. The engine covers would nomally be added during final assembly and this suggests the covers were in short supply for assembly later.


Road test: Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

Location is BMC's Bathgate factory after 1962 when the FG/FM series production transferred there from Birmingham.

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2014-08-13 13:14
1963 Morris FG K100
The Big Mill (1963)
In the third row back the early Morris FG grille is seen.

In the front row without the engine cover the exposed length of engine with radiator and extended bumper suggests Morris FG K100 or Austin equivalent.

/vehicle_454315-Morris-FG-K100-FG-1961.html

In practice probably both Austin and Morris are seen here as incomplete vehicles.
2014-08-13 12:58
1962 Vauxhall Victor [FB]
Shellarama (1965)
The Victor is in 'shark yellow' with either black roof or more commonly I think a dark green roof.

[Image: victorfb.jpg]
2014-08-12 17:21
From First to Last (1962)
dsl wrote It's a nice shoe as well - probably cost at least as much as the optional heater on an Anglia. "Dipper" and "Trafficator" made me wonder if the film was made for Ford US internal use.


I don't know about the usage of "trafficator" but the UK foot operated "Dip switch" (generally Lucas as here) was I believe known as a "Dimmer switch" in the US (made by Delco-Remy etc.). I suspect the marketing-publicity department at Ford just used the term they thought the viewer would understand without consulting the engineers.
2014-08-12 12:31
1950 Austin K8/AA Welfarer Ambulance
The World of Suzie Wong (1960)
This is the standard Austin K8 ambulance made 'in-house' by Austin.

"You could order a ambulance conversion on the K8 which was factory built and called the Welfarer K8/AA. This had the track increased by 1'' and was fitted with low pressure tyres (9.00 x 16). The suspension was also altered to give a softer ride, by different road springs and shock absorber settings."

Data from 'Austin Memories'

Other ambulances including Lomas designs were also built on the K8 Welfarer chassis.
2014-08-11 20:57
1948 Austin K8/AA Welfarer Ambulance
The Quatermass Xperiment (1955)
Austin K8 Welfarer ambulances

Austin Memories...
"You could order a ambulance conversion on the K8 which was factory built and called the Welfarer K8/AA. This had the track increased by 1'' and was fitted with low pressure tyres (9.00 x 16). The suspension was also altered to give a softer ride, by different road springs and shock absorber settings.

Austin K8 Welfarer ambulance introduced October 1948. The K8 Welfarer chassis was also used as the basis for a Lomas W-type ambulance body.
2014-08-11 20:44
From First to Last (1962) I'm impressed how they use an actual shoe for the Dipper switch test...

In fact they are obviously only for the documentary. Having seen banks of 10 or 15 or more dip switches (we never call ours dipper switches) plus brake light switches in cycling tests operated by cams and rockers. Don't recognise the mnaufacturer, therefore probably Lucas.
2014-08-10 20:32
1962 Vauxhall VX 4/90 [FB]
Time Out of Mind (1968)
^ almost impossible I would say without the registration/year, or the side-flash being visible. The cars colour looks impossible to date also.

edit: I would guess its the early one anyway if I see the side-flash correctly - but only a guess.

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2014-08-10 20:19
1958 Bedford CAL Dormobile Romany Mk2
Time Out of Mind (1968)
Long wheelbase CAL MkII early wheels and hubcaps, and almost certainly a Dormobile camper, by the side flash with inset name. 2014-08-10 20:09
1935 Talbot AY 35 Ambulance
Time Out of Mind (1968)
After reading the text in Commercial Motor Magazine of the period I'm happy to stay with Talbot, for the reason that in the Commercial Motor shows of the time they exibited apparently under the name 'Talbot' but the company name and address was Clement-Talbot Barlby Road, London, W.10,



So Talbot is good for me.
2014-08-10 19:41

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