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1933 unknown
Roadways (1937)
J & R Rooff of Ware Hertfordshire still in existence. No 1930s photographs of their lorries found to date.

Unusual headlight mount and higher than normal, Bedford, Ford/Fordson and Commer unlikely so still to be determined.
2016-05-03 18:56
1927 Leyland GH4
Roadways (1937)
This looks to have the earlier open sided cab from the Leyland GH series, with the narrow cab door to allow for some driver's protection at the back.

The Badger TA 2˝-ton and the Beaver TC1 3˝ tons, from November 1928, had fully
enclosed cabs with sliding side windows

Probably a late GH4 from about 1927 onwards.
2016-05-03 18:35
1932 Bedford VY 12cwt
Roadways (1937)
... which would make it a Bedford VY 1932-1934 12cwt chassis with a custom built Van body.

2016-05-03 16:37
1930 Maudslay 5-Ton Royal Mail
Roadways (1937)
^ TU304? or YU304? is my best estimate for the registration on the Maudsley six-wheeler. 2016-05-03 11:30
1930 Maudslay 5-Ton Royal Mail
Roadways (1937)
The G.P.O. Builds... CM Archive 18th June 1929,

..the General Post Office has.... four-wheeled Mandalay 5-tonner for relatively short journeys within a 50-mile radius of the metropolis.
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: maudslaycarrimore1.jpg]
A conversion based on a 5-tonner.
2016-05-02 22:13
1935 Leyland Cub SKG1 3-4 Ton forward control
Roadways (1937)
The Cub chassis was re-designed and uprated from August 1935 onwards together with a new 4.7 litre 6-cyl petrol engine.

1936 Leyland Cub SKG1 3-4 Ton truck forward control or 1936 Leyland Cub SKG3 4-5 Ton truck forward control with wheelbases of 11ft and 12ft 10in respectively.

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2016-05-02 19:57
1931 Albion 2 Ton [44]
Roadways (1937)
1931 Albion 2-2˝ Ton [44] possibly without more detail. 2016-05-02 13:12
Thornycroft Speedy 2-3 Ton LMS
Roadways (1937)
Yes another Speedy 2-3 tonner I think. 2016-05-02 12:54
1929 Morris-Commercial 1-Ton Royal Mail [T-Type]
Roadways (1937)
1924-1931 Morris-Commercial 1-Ton van T-type.

2016-05-02 12:51
1914 Commer RC 4 Ton
Roadways (1937)
Commer Cars Luton. http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/History/history/node18.html

"When War was declared all the chassis then ready for delivery, as well as those in various stages of construction, were commandeered by the Army and the Company was instructed to concentrate upon the production of one type of chassis, the 'RC' 4 ton chain-driven type of which some 5,000 were supplied."
2016-05-01 19:38
1931 Bedford WLG Forward control - Luton Body
Roadways (1937)
1931 Bedford WLG 2-ton not the same Hamilton conversion but similar with a 'Luton' body.

[Image: bedfordf_control.jpg]

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-05-01 19:09
1934 Austin 12/4 Taxi Low Loader - Dobsons
Roadways (1937)
AXP611 to AXP660 February March 1934 (A?P63?)

Austin 12/4 Taxi Low-Loader, not a 'common' body possibly a Dobsons body?
2016-05-01 18:59
Austin 12/4 Taxi Low Loader - Jones Body
Roadways (1937)
Austin 12/4 Taxi Low-Loader, Jones Body. 2016-05-01 18:56
Morris unknown Bullnose
Roadways (1937)
In common with a few more, location Markyate High Street, (A5 truck road, Watling Street before the Markyate by-pass); about 7 miles north of St Albans and 4 miles from Dunstable.

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2016-05-01 18:18
1936 Commer N3
Roadways (1937)
Location Markyate High Street, (A5 truck road, Watling Street before the Markyate by-pass); about 7 miles north of St Albans and 4 miles from Dunstable.

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2016-05-01 18:15
Thornycroft Speedy 2-3 Ton
Roadways (1937)
yes... Speedy 2-3 tonner I guess. 2016-05-01 17:41
1931 Bedford WLG Forward control - Luton Body
Roadways (1937)
Bedford WHG or WLG forward control so yes, unusual and not as straight from the factory I think: a conversion by an unknown company on a normal control chassis?

I think another has been seen previously?
2016-05-01 17:39
1934 Bedford WTL
Roadways (1937)
Bedford WTL

Location Markyate High Street, (A5 truck road, Watling Street before the Markyate by-pass); about 7 miles north of St Albans and 4 miles from Dunstable.

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2016-05-01 17:35
1936 Commer N3
Roadways (1937)
Both from Luton however (pre-1950s move to Dunstable).

Commer N3, N4 or N5
Bedford WTL
2016-05-01 17:34
Thornycroft Speedy LNER
Roadways (1937)
Centre LNER is I think a Thornycroft ... Speedy probably

[Image: speedy.jpg]


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2016-05-01 16:56
1934 Morris-Commercial Royal Mail Air Service Car by Duple [L2]
Roadways (1937)
The first manufacturing company I worked for had about 1,000 to 1,250 employees and a fleet of perhaps twelve-twenty trucks and vans. They had an on-site garage with four full time employees and an apprentice (separate from the transport dept itself). Their full time job was major repairs and servicing all done 'in-house' never at a local dealership. Unknown of today with out-sourcing the maximum of work. Different times indeed; most things were repaired and back in service and very seldom scrapped and replaced. 2016-05-01 12:30
Greenwood & Batley Greenbat Station Trolley
Night Mail (1936)
'....ley Ltd. Leeds England' appears in the last thumbnail 'cast' perhaps into the upright so probably part of the maker's name.
Greenwood and Batley, Ltd., of Leeds (Greenbat)

Source CM Archive..
Electric trucks have, of course, for some time been employed at large railway termini, and such machines are produced by
....Greenwood and Batley, Ltd., of Leeds (Greenbat)

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: greenbattruck.jpg]
2016-05-01 12:18
1935 Austin 12/4 Taxi Low Loader - Jones Body
A is for Acid (2002)
Part of a batch registered by Mann & Overton; CLU311 to CLU360 February - March 1936.

No other appearances to date on imcdb, I think.

Austin 12/4 Taxi Low Loader Jones Body.
2016-05-01 11:56
1934 Morris-Commercial Royal Mail Air Service Car by Duple [L2]
Roadways (1937)
From: http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/lord-ks-garage-63-1935-morris which gives as its source the http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/collections/getrecord/GB813_P_33_4743 (available to visitors).

Eight Morris Minor vans were introduced for collection duties and two 105 cubic feet capacity vans for the conveyance of mails. One of these was supposed to be replaced with a 250 cu ft van in 1935, but the larger van was simply added to the main fleet instead.

A special additional (streamlined) van took the form of an advertising car. Its streamlined body, designed by Maurice Lambert, was mounted on a standard 15cwt chassis.

In August 1938, instructions were issued for all Minor vans to be withdrawn from airmail service; they were repainted red and entered normal service by the end of the year. At the end of 1938, the streamlined van was put on display at the Glasgow Empire exhibition. After this it was returned to London, the special body was removed and replaced with a standard 105 cu ft body.

This indicates, by implication, the Morris Minor vans (Morris Light Vans?) were different and separate from the 15cwt (which can only be Morris-Commercial) 105 cuft. vans which was also the basis of the streamlined car.
2016-04-30 20:32
1934 Morris-Commercial Royal Mail Air Service Car by Duple [L2]
Roadways (1937)
Almost certainly yes, the body capacity.

No indication on CM that I can currently find for the Morris-Commercial L2 10-12cwt; however the capacity of a standard 1932 Morris 8cwt van was 70 cuft. So 105 cuft for the Morris-Commercial L2 seems possible.

And as dsl says the higher bonnet says for me its the Morris-Commercial L2.

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2016-04-30 16:34
1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van Royal Mail [L2]
Roadways (1937)
The dates would suggest the later 1931-1938 Morris-Commercial L2 10-12cwt, rather than 1927-1930 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt L-Type

(edit: link has errors therefore deleted).

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2016-04-30 14:17
1912 Leyland A Type Subsidy
Roadways (1937)
Looks like a Leyland A-type Subsidy.

2016-04-30 13:31
1931 Morris-Commercial 1-Ton Royal Mail [T2]
Roadways (1937)
Without a better view, a 1931-1936 Morris-Commercial 1-Ton [T2] I believe. 2016-04-30 13:28
1933 Morris Light Van 8-10cwt 'Flatnose' Royal Mail
Roadways (1937)
1931 Morris Light Van 8-10cwt 'Flatnose'

2016-04-30 13:15
1927 Leyland GH4
Roadways (1937)
Leyland G4 or Leyland GH4 4-5 tonner - [edit] cab reassessed as probably GH4

Link to "www.britishcommercialvehiclemuseum.com"
Leyland GH4 (link replaced picture).

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2016-04-30 13:10
1934 Morris-Commercial Royal Mail Air Service Car by Duple [L2]
Roadways (1937)
Morris Minor 15cwt chassis is a contradiction in terms I think; a Morris Minor would equate to 8cwt at most and 5-6cwt is more likely, I believe.

[Image: morris_commercial_l2_postal_van_1.jpg]
1931-1938 Morris-Commercial L2 10-12cwt (CM archive) 15cwt (Morris Register) is probable.

[Image: cev257.jpg]
1935 Morris 8-10cwt Light Van 12/4 Based on Morris saloon is the largest Morris I think.

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2016-04-30 13:01
1928 Leyland GH4 2-3 ton
Roadways (1937)
Looks like a Leyland radiator to me; if it is then GH-series, GH4 2-3 ton or GH6 3-4 ton?

Possibly Leyland GH4.
2016-04-30 12:07
1932 Leyland Badger 4 ton
Roadways (1937)
1932 Leyland Badger 4-ton or Beaver 5-ton? 2016-04-30 12:01
1921 Leyland G2 30cwt Truck
Roadways (1937)
1921 Leyland G2 30cwt (or GH2 30cwt). Its just possible the GH2 lasted until 1930/1931 I guess but I think the registration is probably too late; so potentially re-registered from 1920s military service. However I believe it never was a WWI Subsidy/RAF truck 3-ton. 2016-04-30 11:53
1934 Bedford WTL
Roadways (1937)
1934 Bedford WTL (short bonnet, semi-forward control and long wheelbase). 2016-04-30 11:42
1936 Bedford WTL
Roadways (1937)
1936 Bedford WTL (long wheelbase) or WTH (short wheelbase). A high capacity parcels type van could suggest WTL long wheelbase, unless the whole length is confirmed in the film. 2016-04-30 11:33
1930 Leyland Tiger TS2 Harrington for Southdown
Roadways (1937)
Leyland...Tiger...? 2016-04-29 15:52
1935 Albion 2 Ton Royal Mail [44]
Roadways (1937)
'CTW' 1935 an Albion 44 or 47 1931-1935 I think, 2-ton or 2˝-ton. Only 75% certain.

Too early for a KL127 and not a 4-tonner?.
2016-04-29 15:47
1934 Morris-Commercial C11/40
Roadways (1937)
Normal control Morris Commercial C11/40 or C13/40 2-ton (11ft or 13ft wheelbase).
Wheelbase hard to estimate but possibly 11ft so C11/40.

The 3-tonner was generally the C12/60F forward control truck.
2016-04-29 15:09
Calendar of the Year (1936) The Preslands of Walthamstow removals truck looks to be a 1934 Bedford WTL 3-Ton. 2016-04-29 13:18
1933 Bedford ASYC 'Evening Standard' delivery 8cwt van
Calendar of the Year (1936)
Agreed and the front wing shape is different.

The Bedford ASYC 8cwt van looks right to me.
2016-04-29 12:55
1924 Unic L2 9CV
Calendar of the Year (1936)
johnfromstaffs wrote Morris Cowley?

My first thought but front wing shape too curved and missing the typical Cowley sidelights I think.
2016-04-28 21:33
1933 Bedford ASYC 'Evening Standard' delivery 8cwt van
Calendar of the Year (1936)
Bedford ASXC or ASYC 8cwt van looks possible to me, although almost identical Evening Standard (fleet No. 75 or 175 ALW828?) is identified as a Ford van...

[Image: fordeveningstandard.jpg]
2016-04-28 20:47
Calendar of the Year (1936) Possible Taxi 'YY 3582' looks like an Austin 12/4 High Lot but only known registrations are YY4141 to YY4170 and YY6961 to YY7000. It looks so convincing I suspect some numbers are missing from the Mann & Overton list. 2016-04-28 20:40
1931 Dodge LER Star Mobile Newspaper Printing Van by Tomlinson
Calendar of the Year (1936)
The vehicle concerned, a Dodge Brothers machine, supplied by Tomlinson (Marylebone), Ltd. 77 High Street, London, W1 has proved so satisfactory that a further outfit has been put into service. It is identical with the former model in that it has a Dodge Brothers LER chassis with a six-cylindered engine, but twin tyres are used on the rear wheels in place of the single equipment formerly specified.
1931 link Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
1929 link http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/16th-july-1929/60/a-mobile-printing-press

[Image: starmobileprinting.jpg]

Looks possibly like twin rear wheels to me so 1931 Dodge LER Tomlinson newspaper printing van?

The Dodge LER chassis appears to be a 20-seater bus chassis from 1929 http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/12th-november-1929/160/dodge-brothers

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2016-04-28 19:36
1987 Renault Commando Locomotors
London's Burning (1988-2002)
Not Dodge but Renault after 1987.
They were all sold as Renault Commando (100 series was dropped) G12, G16 and G25 rigid trucks or G20T tractor-trailers.

The Dodge badge was optional for those dealers or customers still looking to use the old UK brand name.
2016-04-28 19:11
Dodge 100 Series Commando Marsden Pantechnicon Body
Juliet Bravo (1980-1985)
I don't know where the idea came from associated with this truck but if there is a Commer/Renault/Dodge connection then the grilles are arranged as the Commer/Dodge Commando, and could be the actual Commer/Dodge grilles...


Commer/Dodge/Renault (with Dodge probably being more numerious) would be possible but why were the initial comments made relating to those makes?
2016-04-28 14:32
Dodge 100 Series Commando Marsden Pantechnicon Body
Juliet Bravo (1980-1985)
It is possible but it does look an earlier generic design in the TV series.

They also used an Albion Reiver chassis with the same generic body. It appears they would use what ever suitable chassis the buyer wanted.

-- Last edit: 2016-04-28 13:22:51
2016-04-28 13:17
Juliet Bravo (1980-1985)
Yes an ERF I believe. 2016-04-28 11:49
Dodge 100 Series Commando Marsden Pantechnicon Body
Juliet Bravo (1980-1985)
Confirmed that its not a Bedford TK as the Marsden body on the TK also had a large routine engine access panel behind the cab visible here FEL927V flickr

-- Last edit: 2016-04-28 13:23:56
2016-04-28 11:43

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