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1960 Morris ¼-Ton O-Type Van
John Turner M.P. (1962)
Old A5 entering south of St Albans High Street, now the A5183.

Verulam Road, St Albans just barely recognisable as all the buildings on the left where the van is parked have been replaced with modern (1980s) buildings.
2016-09-21 20:41
1953 Austin FL1 Hire Car
John Turner M.P. (1962)
No white 'Hackney Carrage" plate on the back but London registration.

It could be that 'taxi' sign is either hidden from here or possibly its a hire car FX4?

Do any earlier frames show a taxi sign as it passes?
2016-09-21 18:53
AEC Mammoth Major
John Turner M.P. (1962)
A5 Makyate bypass facing south (the pedestrian bridge still stands).

The London Brick Co truck is travelling north towards Stewartby and Marston Vale brickworks.
2016-09-21 18:06
1960 Morris Mini Minor Deluxe MkI [ADO15]
John Turner M.P. (1962)
St Albans High Street with the M&S store's building work showing its about to be enlarged. 2016-09-21 16:59
1952 AEC Regent III Weymann RT3603
John Turner M.P. (1962)
The location is clearly St Albans high street, little changed from the 1960s, except the road has been de-trunked and is no longer the A6, and as a result the pavement area increased and the road less wide.

/vehicle_961589-Morris-Mini-Minor-ADO15-1960.html
2016-09-21 16:50
1952 Commer QX MkI
John Turner M.P. (1962)
Late QX Mk.I cab, 1952. /vehicle_166491-Commer-QX-R5-1952.html

The top mounted wipers were introduced on Mk.I cabs between January and August 1952 continuing with Mk.II cabs from September 1952.
2016-09-21 13:07
1958 Albion Chieftain [CH3]
John Turner M.P. (1962)
I would agree 1958-62 Albion Chieftain CH3 from size and the filming date.

http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/model.php?id=1474

Not Markyate, too wide for that and not I think on either the A5 or A6 trunk roads in North Hertfordshire.

Pub on the left (The Plough?) has probably gone now or been renamed. A village school and a typical Hertordshire village church spire?

"James K Allan Newarthill Scotland, transport to all main centres of England and Wales"

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2016-09-21 12:32
1953 Bedford A 3 Luton Body
John Turner M.P. (1962)
Agreed, 1953 Bedford A3 3-ton, (143" being the shortest 'long' wheelbase of the range) also with Luton body. 2016-09-21 12:12
1959 Bedford J4
John Turner M.P. (1962)
Bedford J4 1959 4 ton Truck, 161" wheelbase (otherwise 2 and 3-ton 119" also 3-ton 143") 2016-09-21 12:02
1958 Albion Clansman 5-Ton [FT35]
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
^Pleased that you agree; failing exact fleet information for 1950s Ripponden and District trucks, Clansman it is! 2016-09-20 13:52
1955 Austin T203 2-Ton [WE]
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
1955-1960 Austin T203 2-Ton [WE] Austin grille and T203 by the front wheel (2-ton). 2016-09-20 12:15
1958 Albion Clansman 5-Ton [FT35]
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
Ripponden and District yes!

Looks larger to me than the (imposter) 1950 Albion Claymore 3-ton repainted in Ripponden and District colours, however.

http://www.pointyourhouse.co.uk/albion%20book.pdf

1950 - 1959 Albion Clansman 5-Ton [FT35] I guess but cannot confirm the use on the Ripponden and District fleet.

http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/model.php?id=1410

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2016-09-20 12:02
1958 Albion Clansman 5-Ton [FT35]
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
Albion yes from 1950 curved fronted cab.

Clansman [FT35] or Chieftain [FT37]..' possibly the lighter Clansman?

VMJ 522 = late 1958 Bedfordshire less likely I think.. Cannot yet read the name on the cab (XXXXXXDEN & XXXXLEY (/HADLEY?))

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2016-09-19 22:26
1941 Morris-Commercial LC1
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
Not a lot of detail a bit dark here but it should be a 1941 Morris-Commercial LC1...(non-standard Luton body doesn't help). 2016-09-19 21:57
1954 Commer BF High-roof parcel van for British Railways
Looking at Britain: Industrial Town (1962)
1954 to 1966? Commer BF (or Karrier) 1¼ or 1½ Ton chassis with high-roof body. 2016-09-19 21:44
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
Dodge with is parrot nosed Briggs cab was still in production through 1968 before or alongside the LAD cab when it came on stream.
Ford's ET6 could be in production through to the early 1960s

Commercially (considering Ford's otherwise lower presswork production quantities) knowing for the others they were to be superseded soon by the LAD cab, and from Glass's info it looks 1961 was indeed the last production date of Leyland's version.
2016-09-19 21:14
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
johnfromstaffs wrote ....

It looks like the NC Comet went on to '61. Very surprised.


True, my conclusion also.

However being picky would like to find some other confirmation.

Other reading still points to Briggs being bought by Ford in 1953 and they continued to fullfill existing contracts for other (non-Ford) companies, and that they supplied truck cabs until about 1956. But was it extended?

Ford would still have to provide parts on a service and repair basis. What happened to specific Leyland tooling (wings/bonnet)?
2016-09-19 19:56
1954 Leyland Comet
Andersons Garage (1973)
'Winged Comet' badge is visible below the front quarter-light glass. 2016-09-19 19:31
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
:king: True dedication there, dsl. :king:

Thank you.

I'm sure it will be interesting reading, off to learn what I can...
2016-09-19 18:42
Leyland Comet
The Damned (1963)
Narrow wheelarch protrusion indicates Comet rather than Beaver. 2016-09-19 16:49
Leyland Beaver
They Take The High Road (1960)
Greater wheelarch protrusion indicates a Beaver not the Comet which had less width.

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2016-09-19 16:44
1955 Leyland Comet
Ferry Load (1960)
Narrow wheelarch protrusion indicates Comet rather than Beaver. 2016-09-19 16:39
1954 Leyland Comet
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
[Image: comet.jpg] [Image: beaver1.jpg]

Confirmation: Narrow wheelarch protrusion indicates Comet rather than Beaver.

http://www.leylandsociety.co.uk/publications/torque/pdf/Torque028.pdf
2016-09-19 16:32
1958 Leyland Comet
Victim Five (1964)
A Caltex order for Leylands recorded in 1958 may include this truck or be about this time. 2016-09-19 13:28
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
Any idea, dsl, when the normal control version Comet ceased production?

By 1955 they appear to be missing from Leyland's adverts, but probabaly continued for some time?
2016-09-19 13:20
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
All excellent information dsl and johnfromstaffs; my findings as follows. Not hard 'facts' but as reported in CM, so there could be more information missing! Tonnage is particularly loosley applied in the period.

Prior to the LAD cab only the 'Comet 90' appears to be promoted as such in adverts. The remainder (before and after) being called plain 'Comet'.

The Comet was introduced early 1948 with a 5 litre 75 bhp diesel engine as normal control only with the emphasis on export sales. It was rated as 6-7 tons.
January 1950 saw the introduction of the option of a Leyland 100bhp petrol engine of the same basic design as the diesel.
In early 1951 the 75bhp unit was replaced and the truck called the Comet 90; with a 5.75 litre 90 bhp engine, still n/c only and rated at 7-8 tons.
In October 1953 the full-frontal cab (f/c) was added also as the Comet 90 "with chassis details and 90 bhp engine as the n/c truck".
The 100bhp engine was introduced in June 1955 as an uprated design based on the 90bhp engine; with no mention of a Comet 100 name (it was advertised only as 'Comet'); it still was known to be rated at 7-8 ton (10-ton tractor).

Wheelbases for trucks differed between n/c (125", 170" and 183") and f/c (118", 163" and 180"); passenger bus chassis wheelbases possibly differ, also other wheelbases could have been introduced later.

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2016-09-19 11:52
Leyland Beaver
They Take The High Road (1960)
Nearly 350 Leylands have now been ordered by B.R.S. this year (1955), including a fleet of Beaver and Comet tractors.
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

Beaver or Comet both possible here, default to Beaver.
2016-09-18 22:19
1955 Leyland Comet 90
Rapier Truck Mixers (1961)
At least 30 1955 Leyland Comet forward-control chassis were used for the delivery of concrete by Ready Mixed Concrete, Ltd.

They were built by Ransomes and Rapier, Ltd. with high-discharge mixers of the American Willard pattern.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-09-18 21:18
1955 Leyland Comet 90
Rapier Truck Mixers (1961)
At least 30 1955 Leyland Comet forward-control chassis were used for the delivery of concrete by Ready Mixed Concrete, Ltd.

They were built by Ransomes and Rapier, Ltd. with high-discharge mixers of the American Willard pattern.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

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2016-09-18 21:16
1955 Leyland Comet 90
Rapier Truck Mixers (1961)
At least 30 1955 Leyland Comet forward-control chassis were used for the delivery of concrete by Ready Mixed Concrete, Ltd (as on the cab front).

They were built by Ransomes and Rapier, Ltd. with high-discharge mixers of the American Willard pattern.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-09-18 21:15
1958 Leyland Comet 63-Passenger Bus with Freighters Co. Semi-trailer
Look at Life: Under the Rocket (1960)
COMETS FOR ROCKET TOWN (1958)

"Claimed to be the largest articulated buses ever built in South Australia. three Leyland Comet 63-passenger outfits have been supplied to the Department of Supply, Woomera, to carry scientists and technicians from the township to the rocket range. The semi-trailers were built by the Freighters Company at a total cost of nearly £A15,000. The steel bodies are 43 ft. 6 in. long and have 12 seats above the coupling, two rows of 29 double-seats and a five-passenger seat at the rear."

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-09-18 20:36
1958 Dodge 300 Series 6-Ton Tipper
Moslems in Britain: Cardiff (1961)
1958 Dodge 300-Series 6-Ton Tipper (3123) - LAD cab 2016-09-18 19:29
1954 Leyland Comet
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
'Full Frontal' forward control cab introduced on Comet 90 in October 1953.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

"The new Comet 90 ..(90 bhp Oil engine).. model is the forerunner of a new range of forward-control Comets which will augment the existing semi-forwardcontrol machines."
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

1948 Comet introduced as a semi-forward control (n/c essentially) truck (mainly for export) as 6-7 tons
1951 Comet 90 replaced the Comet with 90hp engine.
1954 Comet 90 was 7-8 ton truck (n/c and f/c).
1949 Beaver was 12-ton truck with a 125hp engine.

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2016-09-18 16:46
1954 Leyland Comet
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
No Badgers found...

Comet and Comet '90' appears to be lighter applications
Beaver was the 'Heavy Duty' truck as advertised.
Both had platform and tractor units.

Little (nothing? to date) found in the CM archive for Road Tests & Technical Desc. in the 1950s before the LAD cab models.
2016-09-18 14:47
Bedford OY
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
Yes OY. 2016-09-18 14:35
1954 Leyland Comet
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
... or Comet?

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p671187076/h119e2a3e#h119e2a3e

I'm also unsure if Badger also existed with this cab?

Not being able to offer anything else...Any votes?

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2016-09-18 14:01
1953 Karrier Gamecock 3-4 Ton [E]
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
Yes an early one with a split winscreen. 2016-09-18 12:47
Bedford OY
Moslems in Britain - Manchester (1961)
Bedford OY or OWL in the foregroud (tyre size suggests OY but twin-OWL/single-OY rears unclear in thumbnail).

In the background a Bedford A 2Z (ambulance/bus/crew bus/police van)
2016-09-18 12:44
1939 Bedford O-Type
L'homme de la Jamaïque (1950)
They did...
Short wheelbase variants
OSA Jun-39 Mar-53 3-4 ton short wheelbase Truck, Tipper & 3-way Tipper
OSB Jun-39 Mar-53 5 ton short wheelbase Truck & Tipper (as OSA but with slightly larger tyres on the rears only)
OSS Jun-39 Mar-53 8 ton Tractor, Scammell Coupling.
2016-09-17 17:30
1939 Standard 12hp Light Utility 'Tilly' COI Mobile Cinema Unit
Shown by Request (1947)
It looks to me to be an ex-military re-registered Standard 12hp Light Utility 'Tilly'; an early example I guess by the formed grille.

Dates from 1938 with the earlier ones using the independant front suspension and civilian grille going to the RAF, given they were based on the 'Flying' Standards it seems appropriate. - Tilly Register.
2016-09-17 12:39
1938 Austin Twelve Van
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
Its a solution to the problem, dsl. :)

Front wings on the van do seem to be 1938-1939 (lower at the front) also the windscreen appears deeper thab this 1934 Austin 12/4 Van
2016-09-16 18:51
1938 Austin Twelve Van
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
^^ Thanks, johnfromstaffs I hesitated in posting my comment because I was very uncertain.

There are more Austin van designs just prewar than I realised.

edit:

Twelve Van, 12 Van or 12/4 Van? We appear to have variations again in naming.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-16 17:34:35
2016-09-16 17:27
1938 Austin Twelve Van
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
It has the look of a 1938 Austin to me (Flashlot when applied to taxis), the prewar 1936-38 10-cwt Jowett van having a radiator divided with a vertical strip.

So I found this 1938 Austin Light 12/4 10cwt van, although I see some similarity I cannot say how they compare in size and details, bacause of the small picture size...

[Image: austin-124-10cwt-van-1938.jpg]
source: http://www.liftruck.co.uk/rover-95-and-morris-oxford-for-sale.htm
2016-09-16 17:22
1947 Singer Super Twelve
Oxford (1958)
^Singer Super Ten is accepted by me then!

http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/SINGER%201939.html
2016-09-16 11:47
1950 Commer Superpoise S-Series 15-25cwt MkI
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
Confirmed as a 1950 S-series Superpoise Mk.I S15 Introduced in 1950, with the S25 introduced in 1951, (body could be mostly or all Commer except for double section bumper and grilles under the headlights not louvres).

The Mk.I was replaced by the Mk.II/III visually the same, in 1953 with quarter-lites in the side glasses as the Mk.II (T-series), followed by the Mk.III (A-series) http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p1064866183/h2bb96f89#h2bb96f89
2016-09-16 11:31
1950 Commer Superpoise S-Series 15-25cwt MkI
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
1950 Commer Superpoise S Series 15-25cwt MkI, cannot see quarter-lites in the doors.

Sadly the excellent source for post war Commer/Karrier - Redbeard45's website, Commer.org.nz appears to be either down temporarily or gone for good!
2016-09-15 22:33
1948 Morris-Commercial LC3 Royal Mail
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
/vehicle_65558-Morris-Commercial-LC3-1948.html

Link to "postalheritage.wordpress.com"

Not a 1939-1945 LC by the later wheels; probably an LC3 1948-1952 (rather than the post war 1946-1947 version 'LC2')

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2016-09-15 22:00
1951 AEC Regal IV RFW 'Private Hire' Eastern Coachworks
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
AEC Regal IV RFW 'Private Hire' I think... http://www.countrybus.org/rf/RF2.htm

http://www.londonbusmuseum.com/museum-exhibits/single-decker-buses/rfw6/
http://www.mikesbuspages.com/IMG_0154A.JPG

If so the first on IMCDb... a bus expert required I think

edit... too slow, :lol: SteveA got there already :lol:

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2016-09-15 21:47
Dennis AV2 Ambulance
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
Seen before - Dennis AV2 Ambulance I believe...

/vehicle_662881-Dennis-AV2-Ambulance.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47362452@N02/4560405269
2016-09-15 21:12
1950 Leyland Titan PD2/3 RTW 324 and 475
Dateline Britain: Look at London (1958)
LLU 965 November 1950 Leyland Titan PD2/3 RTW 475 is our current listing method for RTW, Leylend RTL is the standard width Leyland RT.

The main picture is also a Leyland RTW by the larger gap between the off-side headlamp and the radiator... possibly KXW 424 May 1950 Leyland RTW324?

Example of RTW here /vehicle_384934-Leyland-Titan-PD2-3-1949.html
2016-09-15 21:00

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