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1967 Jaguar 420 [XJ16]
Ken Laszlo: Hey Hey Guy (1984)
Also seen here /vehicle_181189-Jaguar-420-XJ16-1967.html and listed as Jaguar 420 [XJ16].

It is a 420 - minimal gap between inner headlight and side of grille,

[Image: 420_g.jpg]
there is a noticeable greater distance on on a 420G.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-09 20:46:24
2016-02-09 20:46
1967 Jaguar 420 [XJ16]
Uomini si nasce poliziotti si muore (1976)
It is a 420 - minimal gap between inner headlight and side of grille,

[Image: 420_g.jpg]
there is a noticeable greater distance on on a 420G.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-09 20:44:55
2016-02-09 20:43
1964 Jaguar S-Type
Confessione di un commissario di polizia al procuratore della repubblica (1971)
It looks to be an S-type to me, by the chrome strip running through the door handles extending through the full bonnet length. From the pictures I can find, on the 420 it only extended for a short distance onto the scuttle panel and not the bonnet.

[Image: stypevs420.jpg]
2016-02-09 16:48
1927 Morris 10cwt Pick-up based on Cowley 'Flatnose'
Blackmail (1929)
1925 - Too early for 'Flatnose' in any form, either passenger or van/chassis, ('Snubnose' introduced on 8cwt vans and chassis the same year).
1927 - 'Snubnose' in production on 10cwt vans/chassis, with 'Flatnose' introduced on the Cowley and Oxford passenger cars in 1926.
2016-02-07 20:25
1912 Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
Known London (1924)
dsl wrote [Image: 01-36le5104c.jpg]...

Radiator is clear, so a 1908 Unic 12/14 hp Taxi after all.
2016-02-07 19:08
1946 Crosley Gasporter ERA
Running Delilah (1993)
Years of Production: 1946-48

source: http://www.lanemotormuseum.org/collection/cars/item/crosley-gasporter-1948
2016-02-07 16:19
1927 Morris 10cwt Pick-up based on Cowley 'Flatnose'
Blackmail (1929)
It looks like a Morris 10cwt pick-up based on the 1927 Morris Cowley 'Flat Nose' chassis.

I expect it was a special body as I cannot say if it was offered by Morris as standard (the 'Flat Nose' van only appeared in 1930-31 I believe).
2016-02-07 14:46
1925 Beardmore Super Taxi MkII
Blackmail (1929)
Beardmore London taxi as here (extra glass after passenger door, shaped dash/scuttle pressing.

[Image: 1925beardmoresuper15hptaxi.jpg]

1925 Beardmore Super Taxi Mk.II, shaped pressing for bulkhead.
2016-02-07 14:31
1919 Belsize 15hp Van 12-cwt
Blackmail (1929)
Belsize delivery van - probably 12cwt from 1919, based on the taxicab chassis. Continued in production until Belsize stopped production in about 1929.


This follows the first Belsize on IMCDb a taxi.

1909 Belsize 14-16hp Taxi /vehicle_881527-Belsize-14-16hp-Taxi-1909.html

-- Last edit: 2016-02-07 14:01:56
2016-02-07 13:59
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
johnfromStaffs wrote
The additional gearbox was placed immediately behind the Ford unit on the One Ton trucks, and operated by a lever. It must have made the vehicles quite awkward to drive.

The advert implies that about 50 sets of Supaphord gears were sold to Normand so the Lyons fleet must have contained at least that number of Fords, unless spares were included.


"Messrs. Lyons (who have tried practically everything in this type of thing) have now had from us nearly 400 sets (and still ordering)...
Yours faithfully, ELM STREET ENGINEERING WORKS. London, W.C.1.

As reported in 1926
Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

-- Last edit: 2016-02-06 13:42:54
2016-02-06 13:40
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
Just been reading about the Baico chassis... :lol:


and the Supaphord gearbox (took me a little time to see the Phord/Ford connection).


-- Last edit: 2016-02-06 13:22:09
2016-02-06 13:21
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
Ford vans shown in advert found dated November 1922...

Ford 'Tonners' for J. Lyon's - Normand Garage Ltd.

[Image: im19221104mc-elm.jpg]

The same wheels also as seen in the movie.


-- Last edit: 2016-02-06 12:07:05
2016-02-06 11:54
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
I also happened across the Vulcan and Ford in your link yesterday which convinced me it should be the Ford, johnfromstaffs.

I tried hard to make it a Vulcan but its altogether a larger vehicle and the radiator is more domed in shape...

[Image: vulcan30cwt.jpg]
June 1924 J. Lyons Vulcan 30cwt van at the British Empire Exhibition.

J. Lyons claimed, also in 1924, that their vans were visiting all towns and cities plus most villages in England, Scotland and Wales on regular weekly or fortnightly routes, so their fleet must have been one of the largest in the UK even then.
2016-02-04 12:21
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
J. Lyons and Co. Ltd. had a fleet of over 600 petrol vehicles in 1924-1925.

Nation-wide delivery by was by rail. Local deliveries outside of London within 50 miles was by 1-ton motors up to 6-ton Sentinels or 4-ton Leylands with trailers.

The main vehicles used throughout London were '2-horse' vans and Vulcan 30cwt motor-vans, otherwise 'various larger and smaller vehicles' were also in use.

I found nothing to say they had Ford-based vans at the time. Bodies were mainly by Normand Garage, Ltd. who also are sometimes mentioned as being the company ordering the bare chassis.

johnfromstaffs, I agree that it looks very like a Ford TT, so go with that and hope to confirm or correct as necessary in the future with those listed as J. Lyons vehicles.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-03 21:26:08
2016-02-03 21:24
1920 Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
Known London (1924)
Unic 12/14 hp Taxi 2016-02-03 14:23
1922 Ford Model TT J.Lyons & Co.
Known London (1924)
'Lyon's Coffee' headboard. Typical Lyons livery.

No idea about van maker, Lyon's obviously had a big fleet even in the 1920s...
2016-02-03 13:31
1923 AEC NS-Type London General NS437
Known London (1924)
NS437 registered XO 7622, 1923 built for LGOC: AEC chassis fitted with open-top body, into service (Seven Kings) 2016-02-03 13:23
1923 AEC NS-Type London General NS61
Known London (1924)
NS61 Registered XN 7018 1923 built for LGOC: AEC chassis fitted with open-top body, into service on 11 (Hammersmith) 2016-02-03 13:20
Lacre 2-Ton
Known London (1924)
Maple & Co. found as buying Leyland 3 and 4-ton, Dennis 2-ton and Lacre 2-ton chassis and fitting their own in-house built bodies.

Dennis or Lacre most likely but the proportions of cab to body matches Lacre better.

[Image: lacre-albion.jpg]

The Lacre itself was originally based on an Albion Chassis.

Lacre 2-Ton.
2016-02-03 13:03
1910 LGOC B-Type
Known London (1924)
B-Type I agree. 2016-02-03 12:21
1922 Beardmore Taxi MkI
Known London (1924)
Beardmore Taxi most likely by the extra window. 2016-02-03 11:58
1924 Leyland LB-Type Red Line
Known London (1924)
Yes looks like a Leyland LB to me.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-03 11:52:38
2016-02-03 11:52
1912 Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
Known London (1924)
1909 Fiat perhaps?

[Image: 1909fiattaxicab.jpg]

Not Unic, Napier or Belsize I believe. 1911 Vinolts Gladiator has a similar radiatior and chassis but body and bonnet height looks too low to me.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-03 11:49:44
2016-02-03 11:45
1910 Napier 15hp Taxi
Known London (1924)
1910 Napier 15hp Taxi 2016-02-03 11:33
1928 Morris Light Van 10 cwt 'Snubnose'
The Rocket Bus (1929)
Higher roofed version introduced September 1927, Morris Light Van 10-cwt or 'half-ton' van.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-02-02 13:02
1924 Morris Cowley with detachable simulated van body
Downton Abbey (2010-??)
'Bull nose' example (not snub nose or flat nose) and appears to be the 1924 Morris Cowley with detachable simulated van body seen before in The Great Ghost Rescue. 2016-02-01 19:23
Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
London's Contrasts (1924)
^ dsl, The lights on the wings are only sidelights, I made the same observation some time ago about a Morris Cowley.

Headlights at this time were not standard, paid for when required by the van's owner. For deliveries in town or city not completely necessary.
2016-02-01 17:13
Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
London's Contrasts (1924)
The van is I believe, a 1924 Morris 8-cwt 11.9hp (snub-nose) van, from November 1923 onwards (not Morris-Commercial).

Link to "www.artvalue.com"


2016-02-01 15:51
1925 Beardmore Super Taxi MkII
The 39 Steps (1935)
No bright scuttle plate visible, likely to be (although cannot be certain) Super Beardmore MkII.

see notes here... /vehicle_882278-Beardmore-Taxi-1923.html

(Note, the spare wheel is a complete assembly and not of the detachable rim type)
2016-01-31 19:48
1923 Beardmore Taxi MkI
London Off the Track (1924)
Mk.I from 1923-1924 see notes here...

2016-01-31 19:41
1919 Beardmore Taxi MkI
The Rocket Bus (1929)
Mk.I from 1919-1924 see notes here...

2016-01-31 19:37
1923 Beardmore Taxi MkI
London's Contrasts (1924)
Update: from the limited and conflicting information available; some sources assume the Mk.II was introduced in 1923 when the wing form was improved but chassis and other improvements were, apparently, introduced in 1925 as the Mk.II 'Super'...

New Super Beardmore prior to February 1926. Possibly within the previous few months, and not in 1923.

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

[Image: 1925beardmoresuper15hptaxi.jpg]
1925 Beardmore Super Taxi Mk.II, shaped pressing for bulkhead.

[Image: 1923novbeardmore15hptaxi.jpg]
1923 Beardmore Taxi Mk.I, Flat bulkhead with scuttle plate, more rounded wing profile.

[Image: 1921beardmore15hptaxi.jpg]
1919 Beardmore Taxi Mk.I, Flat bulkhead with scuttle plate, flat wing profile.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-31 19:55:14
2016-01-31 19:33
1923 Beardmore Taxi MkI
London's Contrasts (1924)
Correct dsl, yes I assumed wrongly based on the date!

The MkII Super taxicab was introduced 1n 1923. (source: http://www.lvta.co.uk/history.htm). Cannot find it in the CM Archive at the moment.

A provincial town and city version was exhibited at Olympia in November 1925 named the 'Fifteen Standard' (The Beardmore was rated at 15.6hp).
Source: CM Archive.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-31 19:30:22
2016-01-31 16:02
1917 FWD 4-Ton Brannbil
Stompa & Co (1962)
[Image: norwayfwdfireengine.jpg]

A converted 10-year-old car built by F.W.D. - its possible it was assembled in the UK, from a wartime ex-military truck.

"Numerous vehicles have been supplied to the Norwegian State Railway, some of these equipped with the highly efficient Dennis-Tamini pump,"

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

"The fire engine (1917) - Skien’s first fire engine entered service in 1927 – a converted 10-year-old car built by F.W.D. (the Four Wheel Drive Company). Vehicles of this brand were used as fire engines in many parts of Norway.

The vehicle remained in service in Skien until 1958."
2016-01-31 14:11
1915 FWD
Flowers of London (1924)
Further reading on the subject above shows that UK manufacture of the US FWD lorries started in the wartime years. Because of enemy action supplies from the US and Canada could not be relied on, therefore a UK factory set up by the British War Department started production. They copied and changed or substituted where necessary parts in the UK, based on the US design to maintain supplies of wartime military lorries. Presumably they had the support from the US manufacturer during this process of British production.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-31 12:40:43
2016-01-31 12:40
1915 FWD
Flowers of London (1924)
1915 FWD was American (Wisconsin I think) shipped to Europe for WWI work in France. It was then imported after the war in some numbers for commercial use, of course some ex-military examples were probably put to peace-time transport work. During the war more than 16,000 F.W.D. lorries were delivered to the Allied Governments.

From what I found in the CM Archive - from memory...
It was also intended in 1919-1920 I think to build them in the UK from imported parts and some UK parts. Initially a UK company with no connection to the US manufacturer bought all excess wartime vehicles for refurbishment and rebuilding after parts ran-out it was expected that they would continue production with parts shipped from the US and the UK. The operation was run by the ex-vice president and general manager of the FWD. Auto Co. of Kitchener, Canada.

At about the same time a British FWD was being proposed for manufacture from all UK parts and completely different design. I can find no evidence the British FWD made it to production, but its likely some 1920s FWD (US design) were assembled in the UK.

[Image: rebuiltfwd.jpg]

Steel wheels (disc type not spoked) were common on (later?) military versions but spoked wheels seem common on commercial trucks. Built as 1˝-Ton, 3-Ton and 4-Ton trucks.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-31 12:12:52
2016-01-31 12:07
1920 AEC K-Type
London's Contrasts (1924)
1920 AEC K-Type 2016-01-31 11:29
1922 AEC S-Type S400
London's Contrasts (1924)
AEC S-Type 2016-01-30 22:13
Unic 12/14 hp Taxi
London's Contrasts (1924)
It appears to be another Unic 12/14 hp Taxi.

I am also interested in the van but the chances of identifying it are small.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-30 22:21:50
2016-01-30 21:58
1924 AEC NS-Type London General NS1191
London's Contrasts (1924)
NS 1191 Registered: XR 4274 built for LGOC: AEC chassis fitted with open-top body, into service (Merton)

Ian's Bus-stop countrybus.org

Another NS-type in the background seen from the rear.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-30 21:45:01
2016-01-30 21:42
1915 FWD
Flowers of London (1924)
FWD possibly...

[Image: fwdquery.jpg] [Image: fwd.jpg]

Four wheels the same size and single throughout, proportions of radiator to chassis about right and front dashpanel size above radiator correct.

Front differential seen and agrees with this


-- Last edit: 2016-01-30 21:21:59
2016-01-30 21:19
London's Contrasts (1924)
[Image: van.jpg]

No details visible, radiator can be approximated only for shape, clearly a van to me at least, about 1923-4.

Looks to have a closed cab, most early 1920s still had an open cab for delivery vans. No spare wheel side-mount looks to be unusual for the period.
2016-01-30 19:23
London's Contrasts (1924)
Its a van dsl!

Very small but clearly a 10-15cwt van....
2016-01-30 17:10
1965 Leyland Beaver Bankfield Sleeper Cab [LAD]
50 jaar DAF (1978)
February 1965

The articulated outfit is the first of a fleet of 18 ordered by East Germany to deliver fresh pork to other European countries.

The Leyland Beaver with Bankfield two-berth sleeper cab...

Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"
2016-01-30 14:56
1965 Leyland Beaver Bankfield Sleeper Cab [LAD]
50 jaar DAF (1978)
[Image: file.jpg] [Image: file.1.jpg] [Image: file.2.jpg]

Leyland Beaver

"And these were clearly part of a large fleet of East German (DDR) Beavers..."

2016-01-30 13:36
1995 Opel Frontera Sport [UT2]
Atentát (2015-2016)
UT2 not UT4. 2016-01-30 13:05
1965 Leyland Beaver Bankfield Sleeper Cab [LAD]
50 jaar DAF (1978)
Yes probably and looks to have an Albion front bumper.

Also looks like a sleeper-cab... I think I remember some being made in connection with eastern European use?

-- Last edit: 2016-01-30 13:43:51
2016-01-30 13:04
1923 AEC NS-Type London General NS1010
London Old and New (1924)
I'm sorry I cannot be of more help, johnfromStaffs - you appear to have tried more ways than I'm capable of trying! 2016-01-29 21:45
Thornycroft unknown Charabanc
London's Free Shows (1924)
Thornycroft Charabanc, for example...

[Image: thornycrofts.jpg]
2016-01-29 17:32
Daimler Charabanc Replica
The Virgin and the Gypsy (1970)
A Leyland charabanc with almost the same body design. Mostly superseded by later bodies without the higher at the rear 'ramp' shape.

[Image: leylandcharabanc.jpg]

2016-01-29 17:28

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