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1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DENice ;) I must admit, that I've never seen such one in real life. 2012-06-23 22:47
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rjluna2 US
ingo wrote Oh, just found by searching in the net: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftschutzlampe and http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bienenkorbglimmlampe#Geschichte :wow: @rjluna2: :hello:

@ingo: :hello: I found a site showing the American version of blackout bulbs at Wabash Blackout Bulbs & Units and General Electric Indoor Blackout Bulb :)
2012-06-23 21:22
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE
andrepa wrote Recklinghausen-Hohenhorst (am Kreuz Recklinghausen, immer noch da),...

No. It's already demolished. Since 2 years, I think. It's on my way to the office ;)

andrepa wrote what about establishing IMGasStationDB

Well, we have traces already here. About the buildings, the pumps and -very depressing- about the prices.

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2012-06-16 23:08
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DETough it's located in mine and my wife's birth town, I must admit, that I never have filled up gas there :/ http://www.alte-tankstelle.de/ It's the oldest still running. 2012-06-16 20:04
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE
130rapid wrote Today nobody builds (or use even!) gas station located few meters from highway.

It's even forbidden to rule gas stations inside or close nearby residental houses. The few left overs have a special permission.
2012-06-16 20:02
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rjluna2 US
ingo wrote Oh, just found by searching in the net: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftschutzlampe and http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bienenkorbglimmlampe#Geschichte :wow: @rjluna2: :hello:

Oh, wow! I see you found the side blackout light. We have similer thing in our market during the war. Now, :think: I need to find it somewhere at the internet that I visited some time ago.

Here is a member at the lighting gallery posted a page at the site: Osram Luftschutzlampen (for air-raid-protection)
2012-06-16 04:37
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
130rapid PLElegant buildings of gas station near Breslau intersection (today Bielany Wrocławskie) exists still.
Photo from 30s and today.
Google view here.

AFAIK, the station is under local 'Guardianship of Relics' office control and exists despite modern safety rules, exceptionaly.
Today nobody builds (or use even!) gas station located few meters from highway.
2012-06-16 01:31
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DEBad Eilsen is related to "Fürstenwalde" Type on forum http://www.geschichtsspuren.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9223 :
Die Lage einer Tankstelle, Raststätte, ggf. Autobahmeisterei in einem Autobahndreieck oder in einer Auffahrt war früher nicht ungewöhnlich, zB Fürstenwalde, Bad Eilsen (abgerissen), Recklinghausen-Hohenhorst (am Kreuz Recklinghausen, immer noch da),...
what about establishing IMGasStationDB

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2012-06-16 00:55
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DE@Ingo with no doubt what we find in the net today is often glossy vision, of what was intended by architects, and not implemented
but i really wonder, when they put the T on the roof of this Munich Tankstelle, as the gutter looks authentic too,
and why should they fulfill a 30ies rule of design after the war, when oil companies signs get in use allready?

the drive in Currybude i have heard of, is the minimalistic prototype of 50ies architecture with its eliptical shape and white tiles
as a H0 modeler i scratchbuilt such a building cause there are no manufacturers.
small world, recently i was concerned with design of Rasthof Hermsdorfer Kreuz cause it is still in it´s original condition today
taking my hat off [Image: smileys-mehrere-smilies-332998.gif]

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2012-06-16 00:50
1976 Volkswagen Polo I [Typ 86]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEYes, the Audi was never so naked as the VW, and for some years not all extras, the Audi 50 had, were available for the Polo. The very first Audi 50 had some tiny body-details, which were unique, but except the different extras the cars were identical, produced on the same line by the same workers, only the VIN-number was different. For more details you should ask my fellow Christian http://www.audi-50.de/ 2012-06-16 00:40
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEThough it was a creation of the 20ies and seen on some architecture-photos back then, neon tubes weren't used in the late 30ies and in the 40ies in Germany. Imported materials were neccessary, plus the bad image of modern American style, any -most important- not "kriegswichtig". And not to forget, that during the war nearly all kind of lightings were forbidden. Not only headlights of vehicles had to be covered, the people had also to cover their windows at home with black cardboard. Plus it was forbidded to waste any energy.
Oh, just found by searching in the net: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftschutzlampe and http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bienenkorbglimmlampe#Geschichte :wow: @rjluna2: :hello:
Well, though its very near, I haven't already visited it: Link to "www.derwesten.de" I hve to do that...
P.S. A little footnote about the 40ies Autobahn: the stairhouse of the Rasthof Hermsdorfer Kreuz was designed by my grandmother ;)
P.S. II: I cannot find anything now about the demolished Rasthof Bad Eilsen at the A2. Wasn't that from the early 40ies, too?

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2012-06-16 00:24
1976 Volkswagen Polo I [Typ 86]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DE
ingo wrote 1976+, basic -so extreme naked- version. You cannot see a lock in the passenger's door handle. Even that was for extra charge.

so it could be easliy distinguished from Audi 50 although side view
2012-06-16 00:23
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DEon this site i found that on RAB any advertising of oil company was forbiden, furthermore astandart sign has to be used
the neon illuminated T
http://www.hs-merseburg.de/~nosske/EpocheII/va/e2v_rab4.html
2012-06-16 00:13
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DE
ingo wrote Mmhhh, the T-sign is rather post-war, as this is usually illuminated (@rjluna2: with bended neon-tubes).

possibly the logo T in circle was created before war, and furtherly developed into illuminated sign, but bended neon tubes where used since early 20ies.
here you´ll find the first Reichsautobahn Tankstelle and the T in circle allready on Top
http://www.geschichtsspuren.de/artikel/34-verkehr/138-tankstellengeschichte.html
it was alight blue sign with white neon tube in the middle


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2012-06-15 23:55
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEMmhhh, the T-sign is rather post-war, as this is usually illuminated (@rjluna2: with bended neon-tubes). 2012-06-15 23:51
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
andrepa DE
ingo wrote @andrepa: this gas station is from the 30ies.


yeap! even the T in a ring on the top is genuine and look at the patina on concrete
travelled to Munich with my father in 1987 was quite astonished how much relicts of that period where still in use then!

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2012-06-15 23:47
Renault 14
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
S 415 GT DEIs this a 1976 model?, if so, it shows Renaults bad rust-protection.

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2012-06-13 17:22
Renault 14
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rjluna2 USSounds interesting, ingo :) 2012-06-13 13:19
1978 Ford Granada Turnier Ghia MkII
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
jplemoine FREt, tout devant, une Audi 50 (ou VW Polo première série...) 2012-06-13 11:59
Citroën 2CV
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
jplemoine FR4? 2012-06-13 11:58
Renault 14
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE@rjluna2: the square sticker in the frontscreen is from the already mentioned "Lichttest", offered for free in every autumn. But I don't know, from which year it is. As blue, maybe from 1978 - if the R 14 is old enough. The sticker underneath it seems to be from an insurance company: http://www.huk.de/ 2012-06-13 07:33
Renault 14
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rtsbusman1997 USOr uncovered repair. 2012-06-13 02:29
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rjluna2 USOh [:shy] I didn't read the sentence completely :p 2012-06-13 01:24
NSU 1200
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
S 415 GT DEFrom the 100-Series.

The Neoplan N 4016 NF has the same front lights as the Mercedes W123.
/vehicle_159882-Neoplan-N-4014-NF.html

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2012-06-12 22:07
Peugeot 204 Cabriolet
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEThe front is visible here: /vehicle.php?id=508563 2012-06-12 21:40
Peugeot 204 Cabriolet
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DERather 304, as it's orange and it seems to have the bigger, rectangular taillights. 2012-06-12 21:39
1979 Volkswagen Derby LS I [Typ 86]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
electra225 ITL oder LS Ausstattung! 2012-06-12 21:39
Peugeot 204 Cabriolet
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
electra225 IT...are you sure it is not a 304 ? 2012-06-12 21:37
1968 Volkswagen 1200 [Typ 1]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEYes, 1968/69 with the two-tone rims and the fuel lid, openable only with the hand from outside. The later had the cable, to use from the glovebox (its rubber-handle is a 1302-parts, used also at the 1973+ K 70 for the engine lid-cable. Even two versions of this little part were made, with different mountings). 2012-06-12 21:36
1980 Volkswagen Passat Variant C B2 [Typ 32B]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEBasic version.

BMW "Neue Klasse" behind it, maybe a 2000.
2012-06-12 21:33
1979 Volkswagen Derby LS I [Typ 86]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE1979+ due the plastic bumpers. 2012-06-12 21:32
1979 Volkswagen Golf I [Typ 17]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE:think: The Camper in the background seems to be based on a "Harburger Transporter", Mercedes 206 D or Hanomag F20. I'm not sure if an original or a selfmade conversion. 2012-06-12 21:31
1979 Volkswagen Golf I [Typ 17]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DESeems so. No red stripes in the bumper, so no GTI. 1979-1982 anyways. 2012-06-12 21:30
Renault 14
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEIs that a fat rusthole under the frontscreen? /vehicle_508564-Peugeot-204-Cabriolet.html :??: 2012-06-12 21:29
1978 Ford Granada Turnier Ghia MkII
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEVW Polo I LS (maybe 1979+) and a Fiat 127 in the foreground 2012-06-12 21:28
1980 Opel Ascona Berlina [B]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DENot 1975, with this bumpers, grille and colour 1980+ 2012-06-12 21:27
Renault 4 Transporter
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DERenault 14 in the background. 2012-06-12 21:26
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEYes, the pump is much newer, but the building is from the 30ies. 2012-06-12 21:24
NSU 1200
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEGolf I Cabrio left, basic 32B-Passat right, plus the basic VW Polo I.

@S 415 GT: with Setra-taillights ;)

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2012-06-12 21:23
Mitsubishi Sapporo
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEBehind it a 1975+ VW 1200, a Land Rover, a VW T2b Camper and on the left a well equipped VW Passat GLS [32B] 2012-06-12 21:22
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
rjluna2 US
ingo wrote @andrepa: this gas station is from the 30ies.

Not from the 1960's style gas pump :??:
2012-06-12 21:21
1974 Mercedes-Benz 2032 6x2 [NG]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEFaked plate. G and F weren't issued before 1992-1994. 2012-06-12 21:20
1977 Mercedes-Benz [T2]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEAuthentic plates. RK was/is often used by the Deutsches Rotes Kreuz. 2012-06-12 21:19
1981 BMW 520i [E28]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE@andrepa: this gas station is from the 30ies. 2012-06-12 21:16
1974 BMW 518 [E12]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEFiat 132 behind it. 2012-06-12 21:16
1976 BMW 3 [E21]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE@S 415 GT: 1976+, as it has the plastic blind between the taillights. The very first were naked there. 2012-06-12 21:15
1976 BMW 3 [E21]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEAudi 80 GL [B1] left of it. And right a 1979+ Golf I GTI.

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2012-06-12 21:14
1976 Audi 80 B1 [Typ 80]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DEBtw.: the actor has the very boring common name Manfred Lehmann. More known as the German dubbing voice of Bruce Willis. 2012-06-12 21:13
1976 Audi 80 B1 [Typ 80]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DENot 1973, it's later one, 1976 with this colour. And the 1974+ plastic edges on the back bumper are visible, too. 2012-06-12 21:11
1976 Volkswagen Polo I [Typ 86]
Tatort - Tod auf dem Rastplatz (1982)
ingo DE1976+, basic -so extreme naked- version. You cannot see a lock in the passenger's door handle. Even that was for extra charge.

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2012-06-12 21:09

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