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Allis-Chalmers HD-6
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
garco NLThanks!
[Image: 170775-HD6.jpg]
2009-05-13 22:18
Allis-Chalmers HD-6
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Bruno58 FRIt's a HD6 2009-05-13 22:15
1957 Cadillac Series 62
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
CougarTim USThere're a couple 1959 Fords on the left and the white car on the right is a 1959 Edsel Ranger. 2009-04-26 08:34
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980) G-MANN UK[Image: coalminer2ox8.jpg] 2008-10-28 15:55
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
4x4peru USBack to the vehicle...it is a CJ5. Short wheelbase, note the indented lip of the rear side rail where the side cover snaps are located. The CJ7 of this period (77-78) also had a more straight-up roll bar mounted slightly futher aft. 2006-09-22 19:39
1955 International Harvester R-Series Dump Truck
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Ddey65 USFYI, this truck is an R-Series. 2006-02-22 18:05
1973 MCI MC-8 A
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
busfanMCI MC8A, le pillier central est apparent. Ce vehicule n'est pas original. les trompettes et le radome de satellite sont rajoutés.


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2005-12-16 02:19
1947 Pontiac Torpedo
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEYes, you can create a page for it. Actually I do not know which one of the car or the truck is the most important since both have only 1 star. 24-10-2005 à 14:00
1947 Pontiac Torpedo
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEThe truck is an International Harvester Dump Truck of 1955.

Perhaps it could get its own page?
24-10-2005 à 13:23
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEFound it! :)

http://nicosfly.free.fr/doc203.php

It seems both names were used.
19-10-2005 à 11:57
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEIt seems that the Peugeot is called "VSP" or "203 R" 19-10-2005 à 09:30
1957 Cadillac Series 62
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
MrCadillac SXAs right as can be, Simon. Could also be a "Coupe de Ville" (it's hard to see the front fender script in the smaller of the two images). 19-10-2005 à 06:47
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEYou are welcome.

Now I am searching for the Peugeot 4x4 prototype :)

The Peugeot P4 is the same construction as the Mercedes-Benz G, both being initially designed by Steyr-Puch.
19-10-2005 à 00:35
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
sixcyl FRThank's...very well documented site and instructive 19-10-2005 à 00:15
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEThe Delahaye was certainly inspired by the Willys MB, but a completely new design.

Here you can get some background information:
http://www.jeepland.freeserve.co.uk/delahaye/dhaye1.htm

The Hotchkiss M-201 was a licenced Willys MB.
(Same link for lots of information on Hotchkiss)

18-10-2005 à 23:54
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEThere was also a "jeep" made by Peugeot, at the same time than the Delahaye, but there were only few prototypes I think.
(much later they made the P4 which has a really different design than the Jeeps)
18-10-2005 à 23:57
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
sixcyl FRInteresting...I thought, there was a link between VLR Delahaye and Jeep...no licence with the american production?

About AMC Renault, I'll have a look in my old brochures next week end, if I have enough time?...
18-10-2005 à 23:40
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEOh, just a bit of cross-posting -- hope no-one gets confused.

The CJ-7 sold in Europe had Renault engines during that time. I have a very faint memory that they were sold as AMC-Renault. Perhaps someone has old brochures of that time.

The link came through Industrias Kaiser Argentina S.A. (IKA).
18-10-2005 à 23:27
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEYes, keeping 'Jeep' as a maker is absolutely correct for the modern ones.

I will help with the correct labeling of all those Jeeps ... but not all today! :)

PS: The Delahaye was never officially called Jeep but VLR. By that time Jeep was already a trademark.
And Delahaye is by far to noble for mud-digging in the Jeep-style. :D
18-10-2005 à 23:15
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
sixcyl FRexact, during the late 70's/early 80's if I remember 18-10-2005 à 23:23
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEIn the AMC era, they were sold in France by Renault if I remember well. I guess that there the "AMC" name was not used at all.

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18-10-2005 à 23:22
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
sixcyl FRSome Jeep are easier to identify than others...for ex, the Delahaye...
About Jeep, I'm near agreeing with your point of view Alex till 1971, then we can consider that Jeep Corporation is an independant make from AMC first, then from Chrysler...can't we?...so we could keep JEEP as make (same case than EDSEL (ford) for ex...)

18-10-2005 à 22:50
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEAs you wish... but I think that you will have the task to identify all these "jeep" then :p 18-10-2005 à 22:51
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEIf we want to be fairly accurate we have to use the maker. It is not really difficult.

Willys, Kaiser and AMC are in a historic line (one being taken over by the next). Hotchkiss is certainly difficult to identify, as it could easily be taken for a Willys MB or Ford GPW. Bantam looks different and I am looking forward to the film in which a Bantam turns up -- I doubt that we will see one.

It is not the only group of vehicles were this is important. Just look at Simca/Talbot/Chrysler/Sunbeam 'Avenger', the Datsun or Nissan cars, or the Sherpa van (Leyland, Austin-Morris, Freight-Rover, LTD, DAF).

I vote for keeping the real maker and not a virtual one.

Please also bear in mind that very many people call everything 4-wheel-drive a 'Jeep'. Even Land-Rovers!! ;)

18-10-2005 à 22:17
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BESince the make could not be known, wouldn't it be better to list them as Jeep? 18-10-2005 à 22:09
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
sixcyl FRIn fact, we have to consider there are under different makes (AMC, Willys, Hotchkiss, Bantam..;etc...) 18-10-2005 à 22:04
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
antp BEBut then we will have to rename nearly all the Jeep :( 18-10-2005 à 22:01
1953 GM 4104
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEIt is a GM 4104 (1953). 18-10-2005 à 21:38
1973 MCI MC-8 A
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEIt is an MCI MC-8 (1973). 18-10-2005 à 21:23
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEAMC Jeep CJ-7 'Golden Eagle' (1977).

Jeep is only the name, not the maker. As makers we had Willys, Kaiser and AMC. Only today under DaimlerChrysler ownership 'Jeep' is being used as a maker's name.



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18-10-2005 à 21:04
1977 AMC Jeep CJ-5 'Golden Eagle'
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Saturn Simon UKA circa 1979 Jeep CJ-7 Golden Eagle. 18-10-2005 à 21:03
1948 Willys Jeep CJ-3A
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Alexander DEWillys Jeep CJ-3A (1948). 18-10-2005 à 21:00
1947 Pontiac Torpedo
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
DAF555 SE1947 Pontiac Torpedo
18-10-2005 à 20:17
1955 Ford Mainline
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Saturn Simon UKThat's a basic 1955 Ford Mainline. 18-10-2005 à 19:57
1957 Cadillac Series 62
Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
Saturn Simon UK1957 Cadillac Series 62. Right, MrCadillac? :) 18-10-2005 à 19:54

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