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1958 Triumph TR3A
The Green Helmet (1961)
Bebert FRIl me semble distinguer le lettrage "Triumph" sur la malle arrière, ce qui en fait une TR3A 1958+. 2009-04-25 14:37
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
rynd2it USUpdate, I emailed the club and here's the reply I got

>>>>>
Hi David,

Thanks for the email and good wishes.

The car featured in "The Green Helmet" is indeed what we know as the (G-K) Prototype - Strictly speaking it was / is the one and only "Gordon GT"...which had a steel body, 4.6 litre engine, and other differences in detail - but parked alongside its later siblings it would blend very well...

I'm not sure of the exact reason but during filming the car wore the Reg HLW 493 rather than its true identity, 472 LKX.
2008-12-08 22:55
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
rynd2it USAs a past owner of one of these beasts (No. 72) - IMHO this HAS to be the prototype for several reasons.
1) It's 1961 and the first production car was 1964
2) The turn indicator was only like this on the prototype
3) Careful examination of the bodywork just above the front bumper clearly shows a 'fold' or moulding in the body work - the prototype was metal, all the production cars were fiberglass and did not have this feature.
4) The hood (bonnet) scoop is wider on the productions cars - still a dummy though!

I suspect the 'badge' and the license plate are from the film-makers, it'll be interesting to see what Charles Giles (Club Historian) makes of this.


Extra clue: - the hood scoop goes all the way back to the windshield on the prototype - it tapers on production cars
Now I'll have t find a copy of the movie!


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2008-11-29 00:32
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Vignale Spider
The Green Helmet (1961)
chammoMike Hawthorn/Azelio Cappi in Mille Miglia 1953 all right, but the car is a 250 MM (Vignale Spider). They are followed by Bruno Sterzi/Giulio Rovelli in another 250 MM (Pininfarina Coupe) and Alberico Cacciari/R.H.B. Mason in a 166 MM (Ferrari-Autodromo Spider). #608 is Tom Cole's 340 MM (Vignale Spider) - same bodystyle but different mechanicals compared to Hawthorn's car. I think Hawthorn got his ride from Bobbie Baird, who was an Irishman. 2008-11-03 17:27
1947 Bentley Mk.VI [B137AJ]
The Green Helmet (1961)
robgeelen2 NLBentley Mark VI standard saloon, chassis B137AJ, supplied May 1947, in Blue to Mr. M.B.U.Dewar of Fischer Bearings 2008-10-25 13:23
1959 Lister Jaguar Costin
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENTwo bald men arguing about a comb... :D 2008-10-23 17:38
Unknown
The Green Helmet (1961)
2491tj EN"some sort" of ex WW2 military...possibly a right hand drive canadian built ex british Army Chevrolet 15cwt. 2008-10-23 14:51
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Vignale Spider
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FIProbably 1953, the web page here: Link to "www.barchetta.cc" says, that the 625 were driven by Mike Hawthorn, and that driver behind the wheel really looks like him. 2008-10-23 13:09
1959 Lister Jaguar Costin
The Green Helmet (1961)
Sunbar UKMore about 'The Green Helmet' Lister WTM446 as here...

"Something of a marque exponent, Coundley owned several Lister-Jaguars including a `twin-tube' car road registered as `WTM 446' that was crashed and severely damaged by Stephen Ouvaroff on the set of the MGM film, `The Green Helmet'."

edit: after further research
Two cars supposedly were registered as WTM446

1959 open car Lister Jaguar owned by Bill Moss
1963 space-frame closed car raced at Le Mans by Peter Sargent and Peter Lumsden

In a letter to the DVLA outlining the GT Prototype's history Doug Nye wrote: "My researches lead me to believe that - while the registration `WTM 446' - was first applied in 1959 to an open-cockpit Costin-bodied sports-racing Lister-Jaguar owned by Bill Moss - this registration was plainly transferred for the Le Mans 24-Hour race to the entirely different design `spaceframe' Lister-Jaguar Coupe co-driven by Peter Sargent and Peter Lumsden

http://www.classic-auctions.com/pubtendetail.php?lotid=25698&aucid=26227

Later still it was the subject of a dispute between two owners claiming ownership of the chassis and registration, which dates from 1959, as follows...

"Allen Lloyd and Stefan Svenby have been in dispute for four years over the right to display the number plate WTM 446 and the chassis number BHL 126 on their 1959 Lister Jaguars. The two men left court at the end of February after a judge told them it was not his business to settle such quarrels.

Mr Lloyd, whose fortune was generated by the Lloyds Pharmacy chain, sued Mr Svenby, as a result of conflicting desires by each man to lay claim to the original car that bore the disputed ID marks. That particular vehicle had not only raced in the 1963 Le Mans 24-hour race, but was also the star of the classic British racing film, The Green Helmet.

Mr Lloyd claimed that Mr Svenby's car, a Lister Jaguar of a type known as the Spaceframe, was a “reconstituted wreck” and a “copy built from a kit of parts”.

In response, Mr Svenby said that the other man's vehicle had been crashed soon after its Le Mans race and had lost the right to the chassis number because it spent 20 years off the road, being rebuilt."

The closed coupe car is also listed on IMCDb here vehicle.php?id=182973

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2008-10-23 11:50
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
Sunbar UKI agree that it is probably an early production car so therefore Gordon-Keeble. However in the hope that there is more information available I have e-mailed gordonkeeble.org.uk for any further details. 2008-10-23 11:00
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Vignale Spider
The Green Helmet (1961)
nzcarnerd NZI presume these pics are from the lead up to a Mille Miglia event. Do you know which year? 2008-10-23 05:32
1959 Lister Jaguar Costin
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENThis site has some details of the Jaguars in the film...

http://www.jaguarmodelclub.com/TVjags/TOJ%20JAG%203.JPG shows the Lister and the Tojeiro together

...and this shows an original car

Link to "www.conceptcarz.com"
2008-10-23 02:07
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENI thought it was the prototype because it has a combined turn indicator and sidelight whereas all the other examples have separate ones. But it does have a badge and the prototype doesn't. But if it isn't the prototype then it should be listed as a Gordon-Keeble, shouldn't it? 2008-10-23 01:49
1961 Renault Dauphine
The Green Helmet (1961)
DynaMike NLSquared front indicators, made for GB. 2008-10-22 23:46
1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Spider Fantuzzi
The Green Helmet (1961)
fortengo HUIt is one indeed: a Fantuzzi-bodied 1953 A6GCS/53 Spider. 2008-10-22 23:42
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Vignale Spider
The Green Helmet (1961)
Reg EN1953 Ferrari 340 MM. 2008-10-22 21:01
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Berlinetta Pinin Farina
The Green Helmet (1961)
Reg ENThis is a 1953/54 Ferrari 250 MM Berlinetta with bodywork by Pinin Farina. 2008-10-22 20:46
Aston Martin DBR1
The Green Helmet (1961)
Reg ENDefinitely a DBR1 - possibly the Trintignant/Frere car from the 1959 Le Mans 24 hour race, which finished 2nd carrying number 6. 2008-10-22 20:27
Aston Martin DBR1
The Green Helmet (1961)
chris40 ENDBR1, I think, 1956+. 2008-10-22 20:22
Tojeiro Jaguar Disguised as Maserati
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENThis is a Tojeiro-Jaguar with a fake grille. 2008-10-22 20:13
1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Spider Fantuzzi
The Green Helmet (1961)
Oswald NLMust be a Maserati. 2008-10-22 20:09
Aston Martin DBR1
The Green Helmet (1961)
Oswald NLDB3S?

2008-10-22 20:08
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
nzcarnerd NZIt is not the prototype - the plate is different, the protoype was registered 472LKX - see here - http://www.gordonkeeble.org.uk/html/_the_gordon_gt-_the_prototype.html. It is probably an early production Gordon-Keeble. Maybe more investigation on that site will tell us more. 2008-10-22 20:06
1957 Maserati 450S Costin-Zagato 'Il Monstre'
The Green Helmet (1961)
Oswald NLMaserati 450S with Costin-Zagato body 'Il Monstre' of 1957-vintage.
Stunning car!
2008-10-22 20:06
1959 Lister Jaguar Costin
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENI'm pretty sure that this is a Costin designed body on a Lister Jaguar chassis. A fake grille and air scoop have been added.

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2008-10-22 20:04
1954 Arnolt Bristol Bolide [404/X]
The Green Helmet (1961)
chris40 ENArnolt-Bristol, 1954+?
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/arnolt-bristol-sports-cars.htm

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2008-10-22 19:54
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
greybear ENI think this is THE Gordon GT. It is the prototype. All the following cars were badged Gordon-Keeble. 2008-10-22 19:47
1947 Bentley Mk.VI [B137AJ]
The Green Helmet (1961)
john from Staffs ENBentley Mk VI. The "GMA" registration is a Cheshire series from 1947, and therefore the car is not an R-Type. 2008-10-22 19:44
The Green Helmet (1961) BeanBandit FIRacing action from Le Mans 24h, Sebring 12h and Mille Miglia, also test driving in Silverstone. 2008-10-22 19:11
1958 Chevrolet Corvette [C1]
The Green Helmet (1961)
rjluna2 US1958/60. 2008-10-22 19:09
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
Ingo DE
sixcyl a écrit Designed by Giugiaro working at Bertone at this time.


Yes, just 20 seconds ago I've read that at wikipedia.
2008-10-22 19:08
1960 Triumph Herald Convertible
The Green Helmet (1961)
sixcyl FR1959+ Herald Convertible 2008-10-22 19:07
Unknown
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FIThe truck in front. 2008-10-22 19:06
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
sixcyl FRDesigned by Giugiaro working at Bertone at this time. 2008-10-22 19:04
1959 Lister Jaguar Costin
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: special1rc7.th.jpg] [Image: special3vu6.th.jpg] [Image: special4at2.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 19:04
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
sixcyl FRNice find!
It's a 1960 Gordon GT. Powered with 4.6Litre V8 Chevrolet , 294hp!... very rare car
2008-10-22 19:03
Maserati Tipo 61 'Birdcage'
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: masertipo61air4.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 19:01
1947 Bentley Mk.VI [B137AJ]
The Green Helmet (1961)
Ingo DEDaimler? 2008-10-22 19:00
Tojeiro Jaguar Disguised as Maserati
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: maserati2nm8.th.jpg] [Image: maserati3pi2.th.jpg]

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2008-10-22 19:00
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
Ingo DE:think: Something with a handmade Frua or Ghia-body? Alfa? Triumph? 2008-10-22 18:59
Jaguar D-Type
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: jagdtype2cc9.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 18:59
1960 Triumph Herald Convertible
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: herald2ro5.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 18:57
1953 Ferrari 250 MM Vignale Spider
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: ferrarispyder1pt0.th.jpg] [Image: ferrarispyder3il5.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 18:55
1960 Gordon-Keeble GT
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: lancia1jz2.th.jpg] 2008-10-22 18:52
1958 Chevrolet Corvette [C1]
The Green Helmet (1961)
BeanBandit FI[Image: corvette3kl6.th.jpg]

Another one, Le Mans coupé, one star.
[Image: corvette1vk1.th.jpg]
2008-10-22 18:52

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