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MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK
pmscott wrote ....I am fairly sure it's an MG SA ....

Peter


After looking at a number of pictures of both the MG SA and the WA, I have found only one (a MG SA) with the same door hinges. Three hinges the top flush with the body, some SAs and all WAs have three projecting hinges.

Link to "www.swtvc.org.uk"
2008-09-07 16:56
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
pmscott SXThe car in the clip is definitely not an SS or Jaguar DH. I am fairly sure it's an MG SA or maybe WA DH.

See: [Image: watran2.jpg]
c.f. [Image: 99-094.jpg]
Note the different door mouldings and handle positions and wider rear wing in the MG. The Jaguar running board curves into the rear wing.

Peter

-- Last edit: 2008-09-07 15:56:02
2008-09-07 15:29
Unknown
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKAveling & Porter, Rochester, Kent only ever made steam powered road rollers until their merger with Barford & Perkins, when they also made petrol and diesel rollers as here.

Aveling-Barford is the most likely make becuase their production of road rollers was greater than the combined output of all the other manufacturers.

Makers of road rollers not powered by steam were
Barford & Perkins,
Aveling-Barford Ltd. from 1934 (Aveling & Porter / Barford & Perkins merger)
John Fowler & Co. Ltd.
Marshall, Sons & Co. Ltd.
Thomas Green & Son Ltd.
Wallis & Steevens Ltd.
Stothert & Pitt.

source http://www.r-r-a.org.uk/Roller_Manufacturers.html
2007-06-25 12:11
Unknown
The Long Memory (1952)
Big Dave VAMatchbox toys made an Aveling Porter in their Yesteryear series in the 60s. Could that be an A-P?? 2007-06-25 04:37
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
aecsouthall ENYes agreed. That one however is an AEC Mk III badged as a Maudslay. I'll post a comment there. 2007-06-07 00:38
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK
aecsouthall wrote J Lyons was a good call.

It's a Maudslay, probably a Militant II, similar to this one http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/mmilitant2a_hxy72.jpg

Neil




Neil, I do like the look of that. :king:

...and the other J Lyons vehicle on IMCDb was a Maudslay also.

vehicle_20498-Maudslay.html

-- Last edit: 2007-06-05 23:16:11
2007-06-05 23:10
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
240 gardner ENDifficult to argue, Neil! And when anyone tells you that vehicles all look the same nowadays.......

-- Last edit: 2007-06-05 19:16:16
2007-06-05 19:02
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
aecsouthall ENHere's a closer look at a Maudslay badge of the era, this one on a Mogul II http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/mmogul2a.jpg

Neil

-- Last edit: 2007-06-04 21:34:18
2007-06-04 21:33
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
aecsouthall ENJ Lyons was a good call.

It's a Maudslay, probably a Militant II, similar to this one http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/mmilitant2a_hxy72.jpg

Neil
2007-06-04 20:56
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
240 Gardner ENIt was common at that time for customers to specify their own cab supplier. AEC, for instance, never supplied a factory-fitted cab at all until after their absorption into the Leyland Group, when the Leyland Ergomatic cab was fitted from 1964 onwards.

Cabs at that time were largely coachbuilt, and so there are often variations in fitting headlights, etc.
2007-05-30 13:53
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKLooking again at the picture, changing the brightness/contrast I now think badge probably looks slightly different and more like this.

[Image: badge2ng4.th.jpg]

I can find no truck manufacturer with a style of badge similar to this.

If it's also probable that this was a J. Lyons and Co. truck (I guess there is at least a 50% chance that it was, a 'Lyons Tea' trailer seen in another part of the movie vehicle_71690-Vulcan-6PF.html ) then I think another conclusion is possible. In the 1950s J. Lyons had one of the largest fleet of vehicles in Britain (2,750 just five years after the movie). Probably many of these were specially built under contract and therefore the cab could have been redesigned or the chassis completely re-cabbed with a specific design.

I believe the badge could be branding J. Lyons rather than the truck manufacturer and it looks to have a separate cover that disguises the true shape of the top of the radiator. J. Lyons had very stylised trucks for advertising at the time. How much of the original cab design remains I don't know but as a minimum the front panel and headlight position could be new. If so this would leave the upper cab and glass area as the only features that may be identified. The radiator would be the same size but the upper part could be a different shape to that seen.

Just my conclusions at the moment but as Alexander comments, not Dennis now I'm almost certain.

-- Last edit: 2007-05-30 13:43:15
2007-05-30 13:30
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKI have to admit its some time since I've looked at this picture and I now remember that I discounted a plain oval or an ellipse as the shape of the badge/logo. I cannot find anything similar but I believe it looks something like this with three straight lines at the bottom.

[Image: badgewr1.th.jpg]
2007-05-29 21:58
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
Alexander DEI am not really happy with Dennis Max.

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Next to the windscreen, also the side screens, the distance between radiator top and windscreen, the width of the radiator and the way the front curves doesn't match. Also I am not sure it really is a 'Dennis' logo.

I am sorry I cannot provide a better answer to what this truck is, but it doesn't look like a Dennis Max to me.
2007-05-29 21:43
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FRAgreed! ..nice find :king: 2007-05-29 13:47
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
240 Gardner ENPretty certain it's a Dennis and the livery looks rather like J Lyons

Compare the radiator and badges... http://ccmv.fotopic.net/p41202839.html
2007-05-29 13:45
1934 Bedford WT
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK1934 Bedford WT

-- Last edit: 2007-05-07 13:08:04
2007-05-07 13:06
1937 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK1932 G2 Junior Taxi, registered in 1937.

-- Last edit: 2009-10-27 15:08:24
2007-04-26 19:10
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
2491tj ENTruck,8cwt,4x2,Personnell,/GS, Ford WOC1 british built,based on US Ford V8 chassis..box body none original..given the date of the film it was probably a canvas back GS truck,sold in a surplus sale and rebodied as a van for commercial buisness use. 2007-01-17 20:03
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
garco NLJust Ford: http://www.secondeguerre.net/articles/vehicules/uk/ca/ve_fordwoc1.html 2007-01-03 16:18
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
Donington UKI've got a model of one of these somewhere 2006-12-11 17:42
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
antp BESo what is the make? "British Dagenham"? Or was it produced as a Ford? 2006-12-11 16:35
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
pilou BEBritish Dagenham produced Ford Army truck WOC1 of end 1939-1940 , based on the Canadian Ford Model O1C. 2006-12-11 15:43
1937 Humber Six 16hp
The Long Memory (1952)
antp BE
pilou wrote A similar model was depicted by Hergé in the first edition of Tintin's adventures in " L'île noire" tracting a caravan.In the revised editions it was replaced by a Triumph Herald Convertible.

According to http://mapage.noos.fr/dardelf3/tintin/ it was a 1935 Vauxhall.
But a 1937 Humber was used in this same book as the bad guys car, replaced by a Jaguar Mk.X in the revised edition.

-- Last edit: 2006-12-08 10:13:45
2006-12-08 10:12
1937 Humber Six 16hp
The Long Memory (1952)
pilou BEYes , this is also a Prewar Humber Six of 1937/8 vintage.But the car looks somewhat shorter than the other one on this site and is probably the 16 hp on the shorter chassis.It is not a Humber Super Snipe :those were only introduced in 1939 by mounting the 21 hp six on this shorter chassis.A similar model was depicted by Hergé in the first edition of Tintin's adventures in " L'île noire" tracting a caravan.In the revised editions it was replaced by a Triumph Herald Convertible. 2006-12-08 10:06
1935 Morris Eight Series I Tourer
The Long Memory (1952)
pilou BEMorris Eight series I tourer 1935 2006-12-06 12:46
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
antp BEHarrap's lists it in one word. 2006-12-05 14:19
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
wrenchhead USWe are lost if even the oxford dictionary is inconsistent :p 2006-12-05 00:35
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
Alexander DEAccording to my Oxford dictionary it is 'drop-head', but I have seen it written in one word, too.
The word(s) are also used with different meaning: a 'drophead' is used in connection with concrete formwork, and a 'drop head halt' is a machine stop.


Somehow this comes to my mind, too: [Image: behead.gif]


:D
2006-12-05 00:31
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
wrenchhead USThe Oxford dictionary lists it as drophead. Its a British term for a particular type of convertible. There are probably several different ways to spell it. We should just pick one and be consistent with that. 2006-12-05 00:28
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKFrom 1939 (SS Jaguar) and 1945 (Jaguar) brochures - "Drop-Head"

[Image: dropheadol1.th.jpg]
2006-12-05 00:19
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
antp BEI do not know for this particular car, it is just that we have three "drop head" including this one, and much more "drophead". But maybe both are correct, depending on the car. 2006-12-05 00:13
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FRIn my book on Jag they wrote "Drop-head" like this in 2 parts... but I don't know if it is correct actually ...so you can change it if you prefer. The best would be to see a commercial factory doc of the car... but I don't have :/ 2006-12-05 00:09
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
antp BEIsn't it rather "Drophead" in one word? 2006-12-05 00:06
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FR:lol: 2006-12-05 00:01
Maudslay Militant II
The Long Memory (1952)
Alexander DETricky ... the bridge is easier ... :D 2006-12-05 00:00
Vulcan 6PF
The Long Memory (1952)
Alexander DEI am fairly certain that this is a Vulcan 6PF (diesel) or 6VF (petrol).
http://images3.fotopic.net/?iid=y4ta43&outx=0&quality=70&noresize=1
2006-12-04 23:48
1937 Humber Six 16hp
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKAfter serching IMCDb for Humbers - it looks like this.

1937 Humber Six 21 h.p. to be confirmed?

vehicle_28724-Humber-Six-21-hp-1937.html

-- Last edit: 2006-12-04 21:22:14
2006-12-04 21:21
Unknown
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKWolseley - (police car)?

[Image: police2wm2.th.jpg] [Image: policeyo6.th.jpg]
2006-12-04 19:12
1937 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK[Image: taxi1ad6.th.jpg] 2006-12-04 19:09
Vulcan 6PF
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FRERF? Guy? 2006-12-04 19:08
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FRI agree with Jaguar Mk.IV Drop-Head Coupé , though it may be a pre-war model under SS make 2006-12-04 19:07
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
hiergehts CHLooks like a bit like a Canadian Chevrolet that the British used in N.Africa during the war? 2006-12-04 18:59
Unknown
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKThe road roller at front left of the picture. 2006-12-04 18:56
Vulcan 6PF
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UK[Image: truckflatbed2jh3.th.jpg] [Image: truckflatbed1fb5.th.jpg] 2006-12-04 18:54
MG SA Tickford Drophead Coupé
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKJaguar Mk.IV?

[Image: jaguarmkivtbc2ix8.th.jpg] [Image: jaguarmkivtbc1cu5.th.jpg]
2006-12-04 18:50
Bedford O-Type
The Long Memory (1952)
sixcyl FRO type? I'd say 2006-12-04 18:47
1939 Ford WOC1
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKThe small van on the left. 2006-12-04 18:45
1935 Morris Eight Series I Tourer
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKMorris 8 Tourer?

[Image: morrisrp0.th.jpg] [Image: morris1tx6.th.jpg]
2006-12-04 18:39
1937 Humber Six 16hp
The Long Memory (1952)
Sunbar UKAppears to have a Snipe bonnet mascot, but split windscreen looks unusual for 1945 Snipe/Super Snipe?

[Image: humber1vh9.th.jpg] [Image: humber2lu5.th.jpg]

2006-12-04 18:37

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