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1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	Dan O.	I think danemodsandy may be on to something. In the several times I've watched this movie I've always sensed a disconnect between the long shots and medium shots of the car, never really suspected it could've been two different cars up until now. The medium 3/4 shot with Gene Kelly in the back seat shows a car with pontoon type front fenders and integrated headlights; compare this to the long shot where that car seems to have swooping front fenders and higher, separate headlights in chrome housings, the bumper/auxiliary light arrangement seems a bit different as well. Tracking down and painting a second, local car for the location shots seems just crazy enough to be standard studio practice, this may have been done for reasons of expediency more than anything else; I'm sure the shooting schedule wasn't about to be adjusted to accommodate the time it would take to ship the studio car to France.	2012-09-17 18:08
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	Skywatcher68	nolouchka a écrit The same car was used in the movie "Kiss tomorrow GoodBye" in 1950, bought by Jim Hull and Peter Mullin in the late 80s and now sits in the Peter Mullin Automotive Museum in Oxnard, California. The car was built in 1939 right before the war started as it was finished and delivered to Delahaye in August. The original colors were the ones of "An American in Paris". They changed the two blue green tones to green and yellow for the following movie, then put a fish on the hood. That is what the car looked like when it went to Brentwood in the late 80s. Now, it has been totally restored and repainted in a nice burgundy color. In episode 1.07 of "Car Crazy", Peter Mullin says it's a 1938 and was formerly owned by Howard Hughes. -- Last edit: 2012-08-12 03:34:48	2012-08-12 03:34
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	nolouchka	Well, If there was a second Delage, I would be very interested in knowing where the car is now and which characteristics, chassis number, date of manufacturing and so on it had. Knowing for a fact the one Chapron Delage was shipped to the US by the studios, they could have very well shot the Paris scenes before the Hollywood ones. These cars were very rare at the time, expensive to buy, and I do not think the shipping of a Delage would have been a big deal for the studios. I learned, a few years back, that history books, often, make up stories about things, to entertain people. They can go as far as interviewing dead people to mascarade their own version of the truth. I heard the story there were 2 Chapron Delage D8 120 in the Hollywood fleet. So, if such is the case, please tell me where the car is now and, most important, what the chassis number was. I do have access to the archives of these specific cars and would appreciate the accuracy of the facts. Thank You so much!	2011-12-22 23:27
1950 Mercury Sport Sedan [0M-74] An American in Paris (1951)	danemodsandy	Something interesting here - this car is soaped. Rubbing cars down with softened bar soap was a way to keep the overhead lighting on movie sets from being reflected in cars' paint jobs. After shooting, the car just got washed down.	2011-09-12 01:20
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	danemodsandy	Actually, this is not one Delage - it's two. The closer shots of the car with Gene Kelly and Nina Foch were done at MGM studios in Culver City, using the car noted. But the shot in front of the Hotel Ritz is a second Delage. MGM sent a second unit to Paris to do the three or so shots that were actually done there (everything else was studio sets in California), and that team located the second Delage and had it painted to match the one in MGM's Culver City fleet. The source for this is Hugh Fordin's book on Freed Unit MGM musicals. It was just much simpler and cheaper to find and paint the second car than it was to ship the Culver City car to France. The passenger in the Paris car is the wife of cameraman Geoffrey Unsworth; it was found that she bore a strong resemblance to Nina Foch. -- Last edit: 2011-09-12 01:11:27	2011-09-12 00:57
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	IIRC in about 1952 or 3 the French government introduced punitive taxation for cars above 2 litres, so this would have been the swansong for Cadillacs unless you were extremely rich.	2011-07-10 20:12
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	James Slick	There probably was a lot of American cars in Europe in '50-'51 (relative to now) for two reasons 1,Europe was still rebuilding after the war Domestic French cars likely still scarce (Esp.luxury models). 2,All things American would have been popular in post war France. P.S. The Packard and the Cadillac were the Top of the heap American cars of the day, So In Europe they would have likely to been viewed as "High End Imports" to upper class French, Like upper class Americans viewed A Rolls-Royce or a Mercedes-Benz. And While a Rolls-Royce might be welcomed in Post War France, I Doubt that a Mercedes-Benz would have been welcomed execpt, maybe as a captured Nazi war trohpy!	2011-07-10 17:25
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	nolouchka	The same car was used in the movie "Kiss tomorrow GoodBye" in 1950, bought by Jim Hull and Peter Mullin in the late 80s and now sits in the Peter Mullin Automotive Museum in Oxnard, California. The car was built in 1939 right before the war started as it was finished and delivered to Delahaye in August. The original colors were the ones of "An American in Paris". They changed the two blue green tones to green and yellow for the following movie, then put a fish on the hood. That is what the car looked like when it went to Brentwood in the late 80s. Now, it has been totally restored and repainted in a nice burgundy color.	2011-06-28 16:27
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Especially in Place Vendôme	2009-08-01 10:56
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	antp	hmm yes, why not?	2009-08-01 10:32
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	aajaxx	Place Vendôme?! Try MGM back lot. Would they have used so much American iron in Paris? R	2009-08-01 04:36
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	vilero		2008-10-06 12:49
An American in Paris (1951)	vilero	Marvelous music by George Gershwin and lyrics by his brother Ira. -- Last edit: 2008-11-10 18:42:00	2008-10-06 12:47
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	yvon52	Tiens, une Simca avec une plaque d'immatriculation américaine !!!!!	2008-10-05 16:25
1932 MG J2 An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	You're almost certainly right. I didn't know about J2s ever being fitted with cycle wings	2008-10-05 10:52
1932 MG J2 An American in Paris (1951)	GREYBEAR	It doesn't have the split V-shaped windscreen of the M-type and the door line appears wrong. I think it is a J2 which was made from 1932 to 1934. This one has cycle wings which were only fitted in 1932.	2008-10-05 02:11
1950 Mercury Sport Sedan [0M-74] An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Sorry, Gag Halfrunt, I hadn't seen your info yet... OK, so this wasn't made for F, but still strange to see it had a different grille...	2008-10-04 23:32
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	I'm afraid I cannot agree with Peugeot... Cf the side deco of the hood and the vertical shape of the rear doors. My guess would be some mid-thirties Renault, but I'm not sure at all...	2008-10-04 22:47
1950 Mercury Sport Sedan [0M-74] An American in Paris (1951)	Gag Halfrunt	I already quoted this on the main page but: Citation Despite the objections of Gene Kelly who wanted to shoot on location in Paris, the movie was shot at MGM Studios in California, on 44 sets built for the film. It was reportedly difficult for the studio to secure travel arrangements or locations for shooting. Two shots in the picture are from Paris, but they don't involve Kelly. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0043278/trivia As far as I can tell, the only genuine Paris shots are: /vehicle_119989-Cadillac-Series-60-Special-6069-1948.html /vehicle_119990-Nash-1941.html /vehicle_119985-Simca-8-1200-Berline-1950.html	2008-10-04 22:34
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Yes, I'd agree on that, Chris.	2008-10-04 22:21
1949 Renault 4CV Luxe An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	By the bumpers with overriders and the license plate placed under the bumper this has to be a 1949 (only) Luxe.	2008-10-04 22:19
1950 Mercury Sport Sedan [0M-74] An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Another Sport Sedan. By the emblems on the hood this must be a 1950 model. The grille has much less chrome than on the US-version, so I guess this was a special version for Europe? Let's call it 'made for France' until better info is found.	2008-10-04 22:15
1935 Citroën 11 B An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	11 Berline Normale, somewhere between 1935 (in 1934 there was only the short wheel base model) and 1946 (since 1947 the headlight housing was painted).	2008-10-04 22:10
1949 Mercury Sport Sedan [9CM-74] An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	This was the only model with a proper name back then: Sport Sedan [74]. Indeed most probably a 1949.	2008-10-04 22:05
1936 Peugeot 402 L Taxi An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Very nice! Not only the colours, the taxameter and the long wheel base make this a taxi, also the sliding roof on the rear: 402 LT Taxi, one of 2083 built between September 1935 and November 1936.	2008-10-04 21:58
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	Simca 8, about 1946 I think. Possibly the same as /vehicle_119986-Simca-8-Berline-1946.html -- Last edit: 2008-10-04 18:02:33	2008-10-04 18:01
1932 MG J2 An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	M-type Midget?	2008-10-04 17:57
An American in Paris (1951)	Gag Halfrunt	Citation Despite the objections of Gene Kelly who wanted to shoot on location in Paris, the movie was shot at MGM Studios in California, on 44 sets built for the film. It was reportedly difficult for the studio to secure travel arrangements or locations for shooting. Two shots in the picture are from Paris, but they don't involve Kelly. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0043278/trivia	2008-10-04 17:56
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	Peugeot 301, I think, like http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/363710614_dd1206cbf5.jpg?v=0	2008-10-04 17:52
1948 Austin A40 Devon [GS2] An American in Paris (1951)	chris40	Austin A40 Devon, 1948.	2008-10-04 17:39
1949 Mercury Sport Sedan [9CM-74] An American in Paris (1951)	big dave	Looks to have the plainer grille of a 1949-50.	2008-10-04 17:39
1949 Renault 4CV Luxe An American in Paris (1951)	Raul1983		2008-10-04 17:24
unknown An American in Paris (1951)	Raul1983	garco a écrit -- Last edit: 2008-10-04 17:22:19	2008-10-04 17:21
1949 Mercury Sport Sedan [9CM-74] An American in Paris (1951)	Raul1983		2008-10-04 17:19
1950 Mercury Sport Sedan [0M-74] An American in Paris (1951)	Raul1983		2008-10-04 17:18
1941 Nash An American in Paris (1951)	Darrin 180	Not a Packard it is a 1941 Nash.	2008-06-15 08:23
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	mrcadillac	Yes, I think you are right. If there were more image to the right you would see the 120ft bronze "Colonne Vendôme" (the "Vendôme Column") on top of which stands Napoléon I. The propagandists assert that the bronze outer casing is made from 1200 canon captured from Russian and Austrian armies. Historians are agreed on "only" 130 canon seized at the Battle of Austerlitz. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Colonne_Vend%C3%B4me.jpg Free history lesson. Now back to cars and movies.	2007-08-02 14:38
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	pilou	A Chapron bodied Delage D-8 120.It is more recent the 1935 having already semi integrated headlights in the fenders , ca 1937/8	2007-08-02 11:04
1941 Nash An American in Paris (1951)	pilou	Packard Clipper DeLuxe four door sedan 1946-1947 ( 21 st series model 2111)	2007-08-02 10:26
An American in Paris (1951)	sixcyl	Interesting and promising film for the cars ...	2007-08-02 05:53
1946 Simca 8 Berline An American in Paris (1951)	sixcyl	Of Course, it's a Simca 8. Pre or post- WW2 ? ...difficult to say with this picture.	2007-08-02 05:49
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	This is Place Vendôme in Paris, isn't it?	2007-08-02 01:35
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	mrcadillac	It's a 1948 Cadillac "Series 60 Special" sedan (the 1949 model has a fancy molding that wraps around the front fenders from the perking lights back to the front wheel wells. Compare these two catalog illustrations : http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_ima/4860sa.JPG [1948] http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_ima/4960s.jpg [1949]	2007-08-02 01:09
1941 Nash An American in Paris (1951)	mrcadillac	Don't forget the 1948 Cadillac "Series 60 Special" sedan in the immdiate foreground.	2007-08-02 01:04
1950 Simca 8-1200 Berline An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Simca Huit-1200, 1950+.	2007-08-02 00:50
1941 Nash An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	Nash? (1941).	2007-08-02 00:45
1939 Delage D8 120 Chapron An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	No doubr this is a Delage. And because of the length of the bonnet it will be most probably a 8-cylinder D8-120. But I think it's a bit newer...	2007-08-02 00:41
1946 Simca 8 Berline An American in Paris (1951)	DynaMike	I don't think this is a Renault... It's more likely to be a Simca 8.	2007-08-02 00:32
1950 Simca 8-1200 Berline An American in Paris (1951)	nzcarnerd	Small Renault? Juvaquatre or similar?	2007-08-02 00:30
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special [6069] An American in Paris (1951)	nzcarnerd	I reckon 1949 Sixty Special.	2007-08-02 00:29

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