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1946 Ford Sedan Delivery
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEThe exact denomination is 1946 Ford Sedan Delivery because it is based on the contemporary Ford Sedan.The term Panel Van is used for commercial truck chassis . 2009-06-26 14:02
1940 Buick Super Estate Wagon [59]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEAgree , 1940 Buick Super Estate Wagon model 59 2009-06-25 10:17
1949 Oldsmobile 98 De Luxe Club Sedan
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BE1949 Oldsmobile 98 DeLuxe Club Sedan.It is not a Cadillac : those had bullet shaped front fenders with a trim strip.Oldsmobiles had pontoon front fenders without trim strips in 1949.It appears the long 125 inch wheelbase of the series 98. 2009-06-25 10:14
1949 Oldsmobile 98 De Luxe Club Sedan
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
big dave VATo me this is a 1947 Cadillac Series 62 Club Coupe (6207)

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2009-06-25 02:50
1948 Dodge B-Series
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
big dave VA1948+ Dodge B-Series Pickup 2009-06-25 02:44
1940 Buick Super Estate Wagon [59]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
big dave VANo, this one is from GM. To me this is a 1940 Buick Model 59 Estate, like this one - http://i12.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/d8/80/5d5c_1.JPG 2009-06-25 02:38
1940 Buick Super Estate Wagon [59]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Q-Ball JPlooks to be a Ford, and to take a wild guess, Super De Luxe?? 2009-06-25 02:03
1947 Mercury
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
atom SEAnd a 1946 Cadillac in the center I think. 2009-06-25 00:38
1947 Mercury
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
atom SE1947-1948 Mercury to the right. 2009-06-25 00:36
Sunset Blvd. (1950) chicomarx BEAll new pictures from the DVD.

[Image: th_sunsetblvd.jpg] [Image: th_sunsetblvd2.jpg] [Image: th_sunsetblvd4.jpg] [Image: th_sunsetblvd3.jpg]
2009-06-25 00:34
1946 Ford Sedan Delivery
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
chicomarx BE[Image: th_fordpanelvan2.jpg] [Image: th_fordpanelvan3.jpg] 2009-06-25 00:31
1948 De Soto Custom Club Coupé [S-11-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
chicomarx BE[Image: th_desoto2-1.jpg] 2009-06-25 00:31
1946 Plymouth Special De Luxe Convertible [P-15-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
chicomarx BE[Image: th_1946plymouth2.jpg] [Image: th_plymouthspecial2.jpg]

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2009-06-25 00:30
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
philm USSome possibly helpful trivia - the original car from "Sunset" was re-used in David Lynch's "Mulholland Drive" for about 2 seconds. It can be seen in the background, parked on the Paramount lot in the same location as in Wilder's film. Maybe a screen shot could help positively identify the car? 2009-04-29 18:25
1946 Indian Chief
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
jmw_48 EN1946-49 Indian Chiefs with girder forks 2008-05-08 21:04
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
robgeelen2 NLThe filmproducers had the body shown by Fleetwood, formerly on a Cadillac, installed on the Isotta Fraschini 2008-04-29 22:06
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SK
flaminiasupersport wrote The "Driver" couldn't drive the car, so it was pulled in all the scenes of "Sunset Boulevard"!

from imdb trivia:
"Despite the fact that Erich von Stroheim plays a butler/chauffeur, he could not drive in real life. During the scenes in which he drove, the car was towed by another car. In the scene in which he drives Norma Desmond to Paramount Pictures, he crashed into the famous Paramount gate."
2006-12-12 20:24
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
flaminiasupersport BEThe "Driver" couldn't drive the car, so it was pulled in all the scenes of "Sunset Boulevard"! 2006-12-12 12:44
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Alexander DE
wickey wrote ... and back to Isotta - it is so probably not the same car, but I think it is so similar, that we can name it after that

Yes, I would do that, too.
2006-10-24 09:48
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKsure :) after seeing dozens of Isottas - they are really magnificent ones (but probably my Volvo dreams will be easier to fulfill :lol: ) anyway cars with royal or other interesting pedigree are always more interesting - but sometimes not even that could save it before almost destruction - nice example:

Link to "www.petersen.org"
Link to "www.petersen.org"
Link to "www.petersen.org"

happy end :)

and back to Isotta - it is so probably not the same car, but I think it is so similar, that we can name it after that

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2006-10-24 01:40
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Alexander DEHey, Wickey, you found a second love next to Volvo?

You excellent research shows that the Christie's people don't know what they are talking about. It is quite obviously a different car than the one auctioned.

The Tipo 8A from the Blackhawk Collection is a similar vehicle, but I would say not identical. Too many details are different. Even a restauration of a rotten vehicle wouldn't change it so much.


Funny how many people try to make money with a vehicle they don't have! :) To understand this one should know that an exclusive car with an interesting history can easily double the price!
2006-10-24 01:17
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKhere are some info, but the identification of the car is incorrect http://www.sd455.com/moviesunsetblvd.htm 2006-10-23 20:32
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
garco NLNice pictures!

(but maybe use imageshack... ;) )
2006-10-23 20:01
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKnow the question is - could be the differences between movie car and BH car caused by later renovation? The similarity of these two vehicles is very obvious..

My final opinion - this car really should be (95%) 1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable Chassis# 1587
2006-10-23 18:42
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKinteriour:

[Image: 1929%20isotta%20tc%20int2.jpg] vs. [Image: snapshot20061023181047pq3.jpg] - there are also major differences (even if we forget about the colour and material) the window opener on the rear panel in the movie - nothing here in BH.. weird.
2006-10-23 18:40
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKthe line under the roof + the roof

[Image: 1929%20isotta%20tc%20r%20new.jpg] vs. [Image: snapshot20061023180633yt6.jpg] - it is clearly different.. the lines in the body are in other places + the roof is different (possibility, that the car in the movie has no roof at all... - it is completely hidden under the cover - or even not there)
2006-10-23 18:37
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKso I believe we have solved the problem with Tipo 8B. Now the question is:

Is the car in Blackhawk collection really the same with the movie vehicle?
2006-10-23 18:34
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKwindow openers:

[Image: car_pop08.jpg] vs. [Image: snapshot20061023181420jm7.jpg]
2006-10-23 18:33
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKfront:

[Image: car_pop10.jpg] vs. [Image: snapshot20061023180233cj4.jpg] btw the license plate is different on this and main pic ;)

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2006-10-23 18:30
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKwindshields:

[Image: car_pop09.jpg] vs. [Image: snapshot20061023180952ml9.jpg]
2006-10-23 18:28
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKafter some further research I can definitely say, that the car used in the movie is NOT a 1931 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8B Viggo Jensen Cabriolet d'Orsay Dansk Karosseri-Fabrik

major differences: the movie car has divided windshield, christies car have one piece windshield
christies car has second regular windshield in front of passengers, movie car has only slideable glass
bumpers are completely different
shape of the roof is different
the window openers in the back are differently positioned.

The Christie's cataloguers are definitely wrong.

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2006-10-23 18:17
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKhere are further photos and info about the Christies example - it is definitely the same vehicle as in the russian article - this time in german http://www.classicdriver.de/de/magazine/3200.asp?id=816 + http://www.classicdriver.de/de/magazine/3200.asp?id=823

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2006-10-23 18:00
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKto be honest, the one in BH collection looks more like the one in the movie.. notice the front and rear bumpers - clearly the same, but different on christies specimen.

On the other hand, the BH is in different colour, is not leopard skinned inside and the position of front windshield on the car in BH looks straighter as in the movie (that is more similar with Christies example..)

But if we look at this link: http://www.autoreview.ru/kunst/num21/cabriol1.htm - I believe it is a Christies specimen - the front grille is also completely different from the car in the movie etc.. Can someone read and understand Russian???

I am definitely confused now.
2006-10-23 17:39
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SKnow we do have a problem with information... read this: http://www.blackhawkcollection.com/index.cfm?key=920&action=details&tab=inventory 2006-10-23 17:25
1946 Indian Chief
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
jplemoine FRIndian Chief 2006-10-22 11:55
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
antp BEOr put one/two of these in model name 2006-10-20 18:16
1948 De Soto Custom Club Coupé [S-11-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
wickey SK2pilou: I will never stop wondering where you got all the information from :)

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2006-10-20 14:48
1946 Ford COE
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEThe tow truck is a 1946 Ford cab over engine ( forward control) unit 2006-10-20 10:21
1947 Ford De Luxe [73B]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEIt is a 1947/8 Ford DeLuxe.It has the circular parking lights under the headlights and the somewhat thicker 47/8 chrome trim.It is a basic DeLuxe version Fordor ( body style 73B) 2006-10-20 10:16
1946 Plymouth Special De Luxe Convertible [P-15-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEPlumouth Special DeLuxe Convertible 1946-48 ( Series P-15-C) 2006-10-20 10:10
1941 Plymouth De Luxe [P-11]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEPlymouth DeLuxe 1941 ( series P-11) 2006-10-20 10:08
1941 Chevrolet Special De Luxe Coupe
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEChevrolet Special DeLuxe Coupe ,1941 2006-10-20 10:06
1946 Dodge Custom Club Coupé [D-24-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEDodge Custom Club Coupe 1946-1948 ( series D-24-C) 2006-10-20 10:03
1948 De Soto Custom Club Coupé [S-11-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
pilou BEThis is a DeSoto Custom Club Coupe of 1948 ( series S-11-C).It is a 1948 model year car : this picture is clearly showing that it has the stainless wheel covers that replaced the former white plastic rims and the low-pressure 7.60 X 15 inch tires. 2006-10-20 10:00
1946 Plymouth Special De Luxe Convertible [P-15-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
archi87 FRIn fact, Special DeLuxe Six (P15). There was no convertible in the DeLuxe series. 2006-10-20 06:54
1948 Buick Roadmaster Sedanet
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
archi87 FRFor my part, I don't believe the color combination depended of the series. 2006-10-20 06:51
1948 Buick Roadmaster Sedanet
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
hiergehts CHI checked again and it you are correct, it is a Roadmaster Sedanet as in this 1946 brochure (similar looking colours as well) but still not sure of exact year : Link to "www.tocmp.com"

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2006-10-20 04:18
1946 Plymouth Special De Luxe Convertible [P-15-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
hiergehts CHYes, 1946 Plymouth Deluxe : Link to "www.tocmp.com" 2006-10-20 04:13
1946 Plymouth Special De Luxe Convertible [P-15-C]
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Firebird86 USDeluxe? 2006-10-20 02:55
1929 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A Castagna Transformable
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Firebird86 USI wouldnt :D 2006-10-20 01:38

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