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2005 Hyundai Santa Fe [SM]
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130rapid PL2005-2006. 2012-10-05 17:52
1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee [ZJ]
Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
cibup ESBuilt in Austria for Europe. 2012-03-08 21:24
1989 SAAB 9000 CC i
Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
ingo DEThis slogan you also can have on T-Shirts and as a sticker. Here on a license plate-holder: http://www.schildershop24.de/artimg/large/3333.jpg In English: "Life's too short for driving a crummy car" ;) 2011-08-12 12:08
1994 SAAB 900 S Gen.2
Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
chicomarx BE94-95. 2011-08-11 23:24
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Nightrider RU
ingo wrote I've bought it for one reason: no other way to get a car with a great Mercedes Benz 2.7 CDTi engine for such a bargain price".


Now that's a reason.
2011-08-11 19:46
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
ingo DE@Nightrider: a colleague of my wife owns a /vehicles_make-SsangYong_model-Rodius.html He absolutely agrees, that it's one of the ugliest concotions ever made, but he says "I give a shit on the other's opinion. When I'm sitting inside, I don't see the terrible design. I've bought it for one reason: no other way to get a car with a great Mercedes Benz 2.7 CDTi engine for such a bargain price". 2011-08-11 19:32
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
dsl SX
ingo wrote Shaun the Sheep

Suitable for children of all ages from 5 to 90 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBVSMReUXJ4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-rLANzLP7c&feature=related .
2011-08-11 19:26
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Gomselmash11But no the elephants, like Nellie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti21PVHXrg

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2011-08-11 19:20
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ingo DE
Nightrider wrote People are sheeps.

But sometimes sheeps are more intelligent than people: /movie_983983-Shaun-the-Sheep.html .p
2011-08-11 19:16
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Nightrider RUWe'll see.

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2011-08-11 11:35
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m.pfaffeneder DE@Nightrider: It´s ACTUALLY QUITE popular. Of course Volkswagen sells more Tiguan´s, Ford sells more Kuga´s, but the Juke doesn´t stand on every corner. 2011-08-11 11:18
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Nightrider RU
rtsbusman1997 wrote

I don't even own one!


And you shouldn't.
2011-08-11 08:20
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Nightrider RU
m.pfaffeneder wrote

They are people who want to have a car which doesn´t stand on every corner.


Well, they will stand on every corner, if they are so "popular".
2011-08-11 08:19
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
Sandie SXRegardless of that the Juke comes in at number 24 in sales in the UK for the first half of 2011 with nearly 11,500 units. It's sandwiched between the BMW 5 and Audi A4.
2011-08-11 01:44
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rtsbusman1997 US
Nightrider wrote

Instead it got ugly design. Is it so good? Also...who are that people, which buy Juke? Who they are? Lowest common denominator of society?


That was a CHEAP shot. Not everyone has a one track mind. :mad: Hell, I don't even own one!

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2011-08-11 00:54
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m.pfaffeneder DE
Nightrider wrote
Also...who are that people, which buy Juke? Who they are? Lowest common denominator of society?


They are people who want to have a car which doesn´t stand on every corner. They like it´s curious design. Also the high driving position is important. Mainly singles or couples buy the car.


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2011-08-11 00:46
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Nightrider RU
m.pfaffeneder wrote It hasn´t got an ordinary design,


Instead it got ugly design. Is it so good? Also...who are that people, which buy Juke? Who they are? Lowest common denominator of society?
2011-08-11 00:09
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
m.pfaffeneder DE@Nightrider: It hasn´t got an ordinary design, the engines are good (above all the turbocharged engine with 190 hp) and you get a very well equipped car for its price. Actually it isn´t such a good car, cause it hasn´t got so much space in the back and in the trunk. Furthermore its suspension is quite harsh. But in my opinion it is a refreshing car here in Germany. 2011-08-11 00:02
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Nightrider RUOk, so what is so good about Juke? 2011-08-10 23:53
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rtsbusman1997 US
Nightrider wrote There is many levels of flock behavior....


Yes, but if something is good, many people will like it. Who hears good things about something and say something along the lines of "Okay, I won't buy [insert thing here] if you say it is good." Who? That defies all logic. Thats like "I don't believe in going to a hospital, so I will not take you to a hospital."

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2011-08-10 23:19
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
dsl SXFoS weren't that bad .... I had some of their stuff on cassettes, along with other forgotten gems like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18sGc89mYuA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkismiXva3M&feature=related (which should be sixcyl's theme song??). 2011-08-10 23:12
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
Nightrider RUAnd on all of our houses. 2011-08-10 23:05
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Sandie SXAll of this talk of flocks has incited me to play 'A Flock of Seagulls' songs.

A plague on all of you.
2011-08-10 22:58
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Nightrider RUThere is many levels of flock behavior.... 2011-08-10 22:44
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rtsbusman1997 USNot for this case. A example of a sheep public is like "South Park or Family Guy made fun of or did [insert thing here] , so everyone should do it" or Twilight. Just Twilight. :wow: 2011-08-10 22:43
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
Nightrider RUBut it is the fact. 2011-08-10 21:55
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rtsbusman1997 US
Nightrider wrote

People are sheeps.


That is a VERY subjective opinion. This particular case is not a example of a sheep public.
2011-08-10 21:52
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rtsbusman1997 US
atom wrote Dare to be different.


In many cases, that is where disaster strikes. HARD.
2011-08-10 21:43
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Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
Nightrider RUThere was alot of 9000s in Murmansk back in early 90s... 2011-08-10 21:20
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Sandie SXI quite like the 9000 and indeed the 900/93s which came afterwards (even though they were pretty much rebodied Vauxhalls) as they still had something about them. They definitely put them together much better than their siblings. I still see a number of c20 year old 9000s going round. I haven't seen a Croma, Prisma or Alfa 164 in years.

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2011-08-10 21:19
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atom SE...and non-SAAB people thinks the 9000 is the only "real" car SAAB produced... 2011-08-10 21:08
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ingo DE
Sandie wrote It's probably hip to like the Juke.

Somewhere maybe. By morons outside of our universe. Just a short time ago there was a quite big agreement of several members, that IMCDb is a refuge for gentlemen with sophisticated classic preferences: /vehicle.php?id=406822 :o
2011-08-10 21:00
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ingo DE
Exiv96 wrote Of yeah, because the SAAB 9000 has a very unique design.


Sorry Exiv96, this was a "grasp in the loo" for you, to translate literally a German saying :o All the Saab-freaks, I know (from outside of IMCDb) have all the strict opinion, that the 9000 is not an acceptable Saab any more. for them it's not acceptable at all! It's only a Fiat with an Opel-engine neither in technical or optical belongings any kind of unique Saab-ish. It's seen as a nail in the coffin of Saab, the first reason for the recent collapsing. These Saab-freaks are using a 9000 only as a cheap winter-car for saving the real Saabs for good weather.



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2011-08-10 20:55
1985 Volvo 740 [745]
Maria Wern - Må döden sova (2011)
volvist CHProduction from the 740 Station Wagon started with model year 1985 2011-08-10 18:37
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Nightrider RU
m.pfaffeneder wrote and here in Germany it´s quite popular actally.


People are sheeps.
2011-08-10 15:01
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dsl SX
m.pfaffeneder wrote "De gustibus non est disputandum"

Should translate for the Nissan Joke as "Its disgustingness can not be disputed".
2011-08-10 14:41
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m.pfaffeneder DEI like the Juke, too. The design is not normal, but it looks quite funny and here in Germany it´s quite popular actally. You can order it with a lovely 190 HP engine. But I don´t want to have one, as it hasn´t got much room in the back and in the boot. Furthermore the suspension is quite harsh. 2011-08-10 10:42
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Nightrider RU
m.pfaffeneder wrote "De gustibus non est disputandum"


But we still have "Taste- Lack of taste" dichotomy.
2011-08-10 08:38
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atom SEDare to be different. 2011-08-10 01:26
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Sandie SXIt's probably hip to like the Juke. Unfortunately I'm too busy still living in the nineties (or on a bad day the eighties) to notice.

2011-08-10 01:17
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dsl SX
atom wrote I'd guess it's hip these days to think that the Juke is ugly.

It's also hip these days to think the world is round, that gravity makes things drop to the ground, that lead water pipes are dangerous, and that human sacrifices do not guarantee good weather.
2011-08-10 01:15
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atom SEI don't know why everybody is picking on the Juke, it's a cool, mean and unique design. If I was to buy a brandnew car by it's design only I would pick the Juke any day! But I'd guess it's hip these days to think that the Juke is ugly *yawn*. 2011-08-10 01:02
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chicomarx BEThe 9000 has a typical square 80s design, not as stylish as the 900, but it's more about pedigree than looks. ;)

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2011-08-10 00:50
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Exiv96 BE
m.pfaffeneder wrote I think the Cee´d is a good car. You don´t hear any complaints. And the styling is not bad, either.

ingo wrote The styling is the best example for dull and faceless. It's a terrible mixture of a lot of elements from different brands - but definetely nothing unique. Just a cobbled patchwork-something.


Of yeah, because the SAAB 9000 has a very unique design. It doesn't look at all like a Lancia Thema or a Fiat Croma. ;)
2011-08-10 00:17
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dsl SX
m.pfaffeneder wrote I think the Cee´d is a good car.

Agree'd (as long as it's not the 3 door with the dungeon-like rear seating).

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2011-08-09 23:14
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Sandie SXI would agree with that (if google translate is accurate). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

At the end of the day as far as I am concerned the most important thing is how it goes. If the performance is acceptable, the comfort good and the reliability decent then I'm happy with it. It's only if it looks as bad as a Nissan Juke when I would be put off something by it's styling.
2011-08-09 23:06
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m.pfaffeneder DEI think DynaMike knows best: Über Geschmack soll man nicht streiten - "De gustibus non est disputandum" 2011-08-09 23:01
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Sandie SXYes but nearly everything is like that these days. Apart from the ones where the designer is a raving lunatic.

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2011-08-09 22:56
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ingo DEThe styling is the best example for dull and faceless. It's a terrible mixture of a lot of elements from different brands - but definetely nothing unique. Just a cobbled patchwork-something. 2011-08-09 22:54
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m.pfaffeneder DEI think the Cee´d is a good car. You don´t hear any complaints. And the styling is not bad, either. 2011-08-09 22:51

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