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Duo da shi a (2009) love krittaya THAlso known as "It Doesn't Matter" Link to "www.google.com"

(I am not found this movie's IMDb entry again.)

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2013-09-18 20:46
Hongqi Mingshi
Duo da shi a (2009)
jorgemenA91 CLFAW Audi 100 :) 2013-02-03 22:56
Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Cerato [LD]
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOThanks, kegare! :) 2012-08-13 09:34
Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Cerato [LD]
Duo da shi a (2009)
kegare JPLateef, I am 80% sure about it being a Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Cerato, but the hatchback version.

[Image: xq.2.jpg]
2012-08-13 08:40
King Long XMQ 6113
Duo da shi a (2009)
3asv6 HKKing Long XMQ6113

http://www.chepuzi.com/bj/tid-8125.html
Link to "images.google.com.hk"
2011-09-11 12:00
1995 Nissan Navara [D21]
Duo da shi a (2009)
love krittaya TH1995 Zhengzhou-Nissan PiKa ?? /vehicle_333981-Zhengzhou-Nissan-PiKa-1995.html 2011-08-07 17:07
Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Cerato [LD]
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOAny ideas? I was hoping it could be quickly identified when listing it, way back :) 2011-08-04 08:21
Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Pride
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOShould this be listed as Dongfeng Yueda Kia Pride, rather than Yueda-Kia Pride? 2011-08-04 08:17
2005 Dongfeng-Nissan Sylphy [G11]
Duo da shi a (2009)
kegare JP Please change to Dongfeng-Nissan as the maker. 2011-08-01 18:17
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
Gomselmash11
dsl wrote Can the origin field be modified to accept 2 flags - would show Flag1/Flag2 with Flag1 being used for the primary design country and Flag2 an optional insert when a 2nd country either produces a previously unused design or makes significant changes? If so it would allow cases like this and many of the other examples mentioned to be fully recognised.

Agree
2011-02-14 00:34
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE
G-MANN wrote How much money have you had to spend on it in repairs? (although we live in different countries with different currencies)


Bought 5 minutes ago: Link to "cgi.ebay.de" Loughable, isn't it?
2011-02-08 18:55
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
dsl SXCan the origin field be modified to accept 2 flags - would show Flag1/Flag2 with Flag1 being used for the primary design country and Flag2 an optional insert when a 2nd country either produces a previously unused design or makes significant changes? If so it would allow cases like this and many of the other examples mentioned to be fully recognised. 2011-02-06 14:42
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE
antp wrote for the Corsa wagon we have design from germany, base car from germany, inside of the car from germany... that makes a lot from germany :p)


Eeeehh, we have a car with a very similar history here, but it's -IMHO absolute correctly- listed as origin of the production country:
/vehicles_make-Volkswagen_model-Typ+3.html Also based on a prototype, planned and designed in Germany, but never built here. After some years of storage in the drawer, hte plans were used for a foreign market. :think:
The prototype still exists. No idea, how it was with the Corsa Station Wagon? Was there a Rüsselsheim-made prototype or mock-up or were there only plans/blueprints made?
2011-02-06 14:05
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
Gomselmash11Well, for the case of the VW 1500, i think the origin: Argentina as well. 2011-02-05 19:12
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
dsl SXFor what it's worth I think I agree with antp on this one, because we know in this specific case that it was designed in Germany (but not used). With some others mentioned (BMW Isettas, BMW Dixi, Rosengart and yesterday discussions about 30s Nissan Type 70) the key is they are known licensing arrangements/collaborations, so origin is country of original birth, not production. But when it gets to a second stage licensing (eg South American-made Isettas) it is less clear-cut due to uncertainty about who did the licensing (Isetta or BMW?).

The next stage is when tooling/design is sold or inherited and the design then becomes modified in new home. Millions of examples - UK Avengers and Hunters around the globe would be my favourite examples - but I suggest something major has to happen uniquely created in the new home for origin to change - eg re-engine (Peugeot engines into Paykan Hunters, Australian Marinas with local 2.6 engines), new body variants (eg ZA Cortina/Sierra pickups, some unique SEATs with FIAT roots such as 133) or major facelift (Chinese Roewe 75). These will have to be individual value judgements - impossible to create solid guidelines. One element is whether the design is still current in country of origin or now long obsolete (eg former Iron Curtain versions of Fiat 124, or Russian ZIL/ZIS development of pre-war Packards). Another is the independence of the new owners from the original and therefore the lack of any original input (eg Ford Corcel from Renault 12, S American VW versions of Avenger). But these scenarios do not really exist here - it seems to be a GM in-house use of their own design without major changes.

Does that help?

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2011-02-05 18:59
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
carsbrazilian BRI have an uncle who works at GM I ask him about the corsa wagon and soon I'll tell you what he told me 2011-02-05 18:26
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEAnd this as origin Britain:
/vehicles.php?make=Dixi&model=3%2F15+DA&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on
/vehicles_make-BMW_model-DA2.html
/vehicles.php?make=BMW&model=DA3&modelMatch=2&modelInclChassis=on
/vehicles_make-Rosengart_model-5CV.html
/vehicle_40629-Willys-Whippet-1927.html
2011-02-05 18:13
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
antp BEFor the Isetta it seems logical to me that it is from Italy. For the others, I do not know since I do not know when they have been conceived... (not only the body style, but the whole car: for the Corsa wagon we have design from germany, base car from germany, inside of the car from germany... that makes a lot from germany :p)

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2011-02-05 18:02
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
dsl SX
ingo wrote If we would go just a half step beyond, we could list the VW Karmann Ghia as origin Italy, same with the Glas 1700 and the Porsche 356 as orign Austria.

... and the BMW Isetta as origin Italy....
2011-02-05 18:01
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE
antp wrote And for the design of the model itself, if the car was conceived in German offices why would it have a South-American origin?


If we would go just a half step beyond, we could list the VW Karmann Ghia as origin Italy, same with the Glas 1700 and the Porsche 356 as orign Austria.
2011-02-05 17:59
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
antp BEChanging a detail in a model-year does not make it a new vehicle
And for the design of the model itself, if the car was conceived in German offices why would it have a South-American origin? That's why there is a separate field for origin & made in...
Usually other versions are conceived in the same office as the standard version. For example it is quite probably that the pickup was conceived in South-America but from what was said above, I do not see what makes the wagon as conceived there.

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2011-02-05 17:45
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE:think: with that reasoning, we had to check every single version, model-year or body-version of every single vehicle here, where the designer/constructor was sitting... :p 2011-02-05 17:42
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
antp BE
ingo wrote Although the orign design was based on the idea of a single guy in Rüsselsheim. "Orign Argentina" should be correct IMHO.

It is a guy in Germany who designed a wagon from a car conceived in Germany, which was then built in Argentina. For me it is still origin from Germany. Even if only made in Argentina...

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2011-02-05 17:38
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE
carsbrazilian wrote
must come from Brazil because the project was initiated in Brazil, and was only made in Argentina to save on taxes


Wikipedia -see my literally translations about the Corsa Station Wagon above- says something different. The article records only the Argentinian plant in Rosario as production-location. Nothing about Brazil in this text.
2011-02-05 17:23
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
carsbrazilian BR
ingo wrote As Wiki says, this Corsa Station Wagon was only produced in Argentina, so only as Chevrolet. Named as Opel (Corsa B Caravan) were only the few cars, which were exported to Italy. Although the orign design was based on the idea of a single guy in Rüsselsheim. "Orign Argentina" should be correct IMHO.

must come from Brazil because the project was initiated in Brazil, and was only made in Argentina to save on taxes
2011-02-05 17:07
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEAs Wiki says, this Corsa Station Wagon was only produced in Argentina, so only as Chevrolet. Named as Opel (Corsa B Caravan) were only the few cars, which were exported to Italy. Although the orign design was based on the idea of a single guy in Rüsselsheim. "Orign Argentina" should be correct IMHO. 2011-02-05 17:03
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
antp BE
ingo wrote *cough* due all these (very slightly off-topic) discussion, we neglected the question about correct orign of the car on the main pic :whistle:

for this one it seems clear now, no?
But what about the Chevrolet version? It is still the same car I guess?
2011-02-05 16:52
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
G-MANN UKAs my Dad says, the more electronics there are on a car, the more things there are to go wrong (so God knows what it's like owning on old Mercedes S-Class or something).

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2011-02-05 00:24
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DESorry for my choice of words, I mean exactly this light. When the brake-light-sensor is the reason, it goes off, when you press the brake.
Normally I'm not a fan of hi-tech, but in this case the fault recorder is a great thing - how nervous and anxious you will be, when this light is on and you have no idea why, and you expect a total breakdown within the next minutes! :wow:
2011-02-05 00:08
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
G-MANN UKAt the moment the engine management system light keeps coming on and off but it could just be a minor sensor starting to wear out (otherwise the car seems fine)

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2011-02-05 00:03
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DE*cough* due all these (very slightly off-topic) discussion, we neglected the question about correct orign of the car on the main pic :whistle: 2011-02-04 23:57
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEThe little valve has caused a freon leak, it's the only cause for the AC's defect, everything else of the AC is fine (resp.was it 3 years ago).
Next week I'll have to bring it to the garage again. The front wheels are wobbling. Maybe a rubber-metal-bearing again. And rust ist coming up, especially at the driver's door.

P.S. When the engine-electronic-warning-light is burning, it's usually a sign for a big defect - but at my Omega it's a really tiny reason, a loose contact of the brake-light-contact, somewhere underneath the dashboard, behind the brake-pedal. But it's the only way, not to expect a major breakdown, when this lamps is on...

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2011-02-04 23:52
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
G-MANN UKMy Omega (my dad bought it 13 years ago, it's been mine for the last 3 years) has done 112,000 miles (or 180,000 km) and I've spent about £2,000 in repairs over the last 2 years. The biggest one was replacing the ABS controller pump which cost £900 (and the replacement part wasn't even new), it had to be done because the ABS and Traction Control dashboard light kept coming on (first on and off, then the whole time) and this meant it failed it's MOT test (by law a car has to pass every year). Also a year ago it was leaking water. It's 2.5 V6 automatic estate, Tourer trim level, made in 1996. It still runs nicely even if it's quite a gas guzzler (nowadays it gets about 18 mpg on short journeys around town, 27 mpg on a good motorway run). Also it's got more space than any estate car made nowadays :) (the crate I put my labrador in probably wouldn't fit in any of them).

My AC doesn't work either, not since the whole engine was taken out 6 years ago, mechanically it still works but I think the freon leaked out or something.

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2011-02-04 23:43
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEP.S. The AC is broken since over 3 years. It's just a little defect valve - but it's not to replace as a single part. You have to buy the whole piping, going round the engine - 240 € plus 19% tax at the Opel-dealer, not available aftersales market.
And for replacing it, you have to dismantle nearly the whole front (grille, bumper, radiator, generator, etc...) :/
My friend's idea is, to drill a new valve into/onto the old one, but until know we weren't able to spend the time and work for that.

Fortunately the marvellous http://www.eberspaecher.com/servlet/PB/menu/1004458_l2/index.html is still alive :) But also replaced, back in 2006 for 650 € :/

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2011-02-04 22:42
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEHmm, I've saved the receipts, but the most work was done by a friend or by the local garage ("taxfree", without a receipt ;) )
At least not much, except some new brakes in front and back, one exhaust and -a typical Omega B-problem- several front-axle-bearing-kits - except the real annoying totaled injection-system in November 2008, at 252.000 km :mad: This has cost about 1900 €, even I got the part for a friendship-price and the work "without a receipt" from our local garage. It was a big question back then, to let repair it or to get rid off the car at eBay and buy something else. But I had absolutely no money left back then, as in this year we had bought the house, so the repairing was the cheapest possibility, though the value of the car wasn't really high any more.
And 8 weeks later three facts came up, which would have caused a different decision, when I would have known them before:
- I broke my leg and stayed at home for the six weeks of the worst winter-time
- I got the relase for my home-office (before that I had to drive 65km to the office every day)
- The German government has presented the "Abwrackprämie"
With that knowledge, we surely had given the Omega away for the Abwrackprämie-crushing (yes, it was a hateful idiotic wasting of working cars and the big lie "good for the environment", but with the non-running Omega it would have been really the most lucrative way for us), my wife had bought a new car (she still has to drive 65 km to work, but in the other direction), and I would have taken my K 70 for my purpose of driving and my wife's 2000' Astra G 1.7 DTi we had kept for driving at bad weather or transporting some goods.
Otherwise: how pissed I would be, if I would have bought annother car than let repair the Omega...

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2011-02-04 22:35
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
G-MANN UKThat's pretty good! How much money have you had to spend on it in repairs? (although we live in different countries with different currencies)

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2011-02-04 22:16
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEYes :) 2011-02-04 22:12
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
G-MANN UK
ingo wrote but the last 3.500 km up to 300.000 I want to make anyhow


Is that how many km your Omega has on the clock?
2011-02-04 22:05
Dongfeng EQ-Series
Duo da shi a (2009)
Bø-Viks NOIts not Mercedes Benz 2011-02-04 12:58
2004 Nanjing-Fiat Palio Weekend [178]
Duo da shi a (2009)
acds BRModel origin: Brazil 2011-02-02 19:59
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
antp BE
ingo wrote
P.S. So it was only developed in Germany, but always produced in Argentina.

So we should change (for the 2nd or 3rd time) the Chevrolet Corsa Wagon origin to Germany?
2011-02-01 17:03
Dongfeng EQ 153
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOEQ153, most likely. 2011-01-31 17:12
King Long XMQ 6105 G
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOBlame me, I typed that in myself. But I would've found out anyway.. ;) 2011-01-29 10:07
King Long XMQ 6105 G
Duo da shi a (2009)
love krittaya THXMQ, not XMG
edit: Admin fixed.

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2011-01-29 10:05
Hengtong CKZ 6123 HN
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOHengtong CKZ6123HN, it seems: http://www.chinabus.info/Product/hengtong/CKZ6123HN.htm 2011-01-29 09:55
King Long XMQ 6105 G
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOLooks like XMQ6105G: http://www.chinabuses.com/product/html/606.html 2011-01-29 09:47
2006 Dongfeng Yueda-Kia Spectra
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOSeems to be a winner. Built in China, too. 2011-01-29 09:36
King Long XMQ 6105 G
Duo da shi a (2009)
Lateef NOHere's the same type, but they don't seem to be generous enough to give me the model name :/ :
http://www.busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=2735

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2011-01-29 09:32
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
Gomselmash11Agree with you ingo... i like the old cars, because its more cheap the maintenance 2011-01-28 21:29
2001 Buick Sail S-RV
Duo da shi a (2009)
ingo DEP.S. The 1974-car would be a DAF 44 ;)

P.S.II To drive a freaky, unusual car has some disadvantages :/ You cannot go around "undercover". This was the experience, when I drove such a /vehicle_118734-NSU-1200-1970.html in the mid-90ies. Back then I was always straying around, every weekend (disco's, different "acquaintances" :whistle: in different towns, etc.)
In the Ruhr-Area are living 8 million people, but it was frightened, how often I was asked later on "I've seen your car in xxx, what have you done there?"

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2011-01-28 21:23

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