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1939 Rolls-Royce Phantom III Limousine H.J. Mulliner [3CM112] 
Ep. 3.29Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: 
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◊ 2016-03-06 19:04 |
This is obviously a Rolls Royce. I'm no expert, but it looks a lot like a Phantom III to me. The Phantom II was sold as a rolling chassis, so the bodywork would differ depending upon which coach builder was used, and in many cases also upon the wishes of the customer. -- Last edit: 2016-03-06 19:09:20 |
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◊ 2016-03-06 19:32 |
All Rolls-Royces before the Silver Dawn were supplied as chassis, not rolling chassis, which means chassis without engine and transmission but with axles and steering gear. Coachwork was then ordered separately by the purchaser, either with the involvement of the company or independently. This may be a P III, but may also be a Wraith or a 25/30. Without knowledge of the particular car I cannot say from the information in the picture exactly what it is or who built the coachwork. My guess would be a Wraith, but on very flimsy evidence. -- Last edit: 2016-03-06 19:39:40 |
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◊ 2016-03-07 13:18 |
![[Image: icesaroni-3x29-ovunqueandrai4993.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/11562/icesaroni-3x29-ovunqueandrai4993.jpg) ![[Image: icesaroni-3x29-ovunqueandrai5004.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/11562/icesaroni-3x29-ovunqueandrai5004.jpg) |
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◊ 2016-03-07 15:43 |
They were delivered without engine and gearbox? Wouldn't that cause them to have different engines and gearboxes? All sites I have found claims that the Phantom II has a 7.3 litre V12 and a 4 speed gearbox with syncromesh on 2nd, 3rd and 4th. There are a couple of things that leads me to think that it is a Phantom III rather than a 20/25 or a Wraith. One thing is its size. This thing is humongous, look at the distance between the chauffeur and the passengers in the rear seat. The other is the cooling slats for the engine, this one has three, I've never seen a picture of a Wraith or a 20/25 with more than two. Finally, the car seems to be the same one that have been used in other productions from Italy: /vehicle_836543-Rolls-Royce-Phantom-III-3CM112-1939.html Notice the large rear view mirrors on the fenders, the chrome dividing the two rearmost side windows and the line showing the start of the detachable roof over the front seats. The last feature is most easily seen in AleX DJs first picture. |
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◊ 2016-03-07 18:17 |
No, rolling chassis is an English term which means a chassis with axles and steering gear but no engine or transmission. Rolls-Royce did not deliver rolling chassis as you said in the first line of your first comment, they delivered complete chassis with all mechanical parts, but no bodywork, on all cars sold before the introduction of the Silver Dawn, which was the first model they offered with Standard Steel bodywork. I did not say it was a Wraith or 25/30, I said I thought it could be, based on the picture shown, since I thought the bonnet looked too short for a PIII. The position of the rear seat is over the axle, the car has a very short, or no, luggage boot, so the rear sear is mounted further back than on a post war car. I would be happy to agree that this car is the one shown in the link you provided. -- Last edit: 2016-03-07 22:57:43 |
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◊ 2018-03-22 16:29 |
Still around in March 2018 - forum topic. |
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