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1983 Ford Sierra XR4i MkI

1983 Ford Sierra XR4i MkI in Tiempo de valientes, Movie, 2005 IMDB

Class: Cars, Hatchback — Model origin: DE

1983 Ford Sierra XR4i MkI

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carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:21

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A shame that it wasnt seen for a longer time.

antp BE

2007-02-19 17:42

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Sorry but as the movie is made in Argentina, I think that it is just a Ford Sierra, not a Merkur
e.g. /vehicle_79344-Ford-Sierra-1988.html

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:44

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Ah ok, i didnt know the argentinian Scorpio was like the Merkur

antp BE

2007-02-19 17:51

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What? :??: It is a Sierra, not a Scorpio

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:52

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Yes Sierra, sorry, i didnt know the argentinian Sierra was like the american Merkur

antp BE

2007-02-19 17:54

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The Merkur brand was used to sell European Ford Sierra & Scorpio in USA, with a name that sounded German (though that the car was actually built in Belgium :D)

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:55

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Yes but what i mean is that i didnt know that the Sierra in Argentina was like the XR4Ti in north America, they have the same rear window, are we sure about this?

antp BE

2007-02-19 17:57

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That's just a Sierra, you never saw these in Spain? :??: (and XR4i was also just that, with another name)
And it is similar to the one that I posted in the link above.

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:57

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Antoine you are just not understanding me :cry:

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 17:59

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dont you see that the C pillar window of the Argentinian Sierra is like the C pillar window of the Merkur XR4Ti??

so my question is, are we sure that one isnt a Merkur but a Sierra?

antp BE

2007-02-19 18:03

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The Merkur XR4Ti is just a US-specs Ford Sierra XR4i!
http://www.brugt-biler.dk/Ford%20Sierra.htm
So if it is not in USA, it is just a Ford Sierra :D

-- Last edit: 2007-02-19 18:05:34

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 18:22

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But dont you see that these one ive added and the other one of the other movie listed as a Sierra has the same C pillar window of a Merkur?

datsunZ IT

2007-02-19 18:44

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Respect European version,Argentinian-made Sierras include only some models,otherwise the German and UK-made ones;in fact in Argentina don't exist the smaller 1.3 lt.;RA-made Sierras starts since 1986 with 1.6 lt.and Diesel no availables;the wagons were renamed Sierra Rural;the XR4i was practically patterned on European version(existing since 1983),but body trim and bumpers differs slightly in Argentinian market version

wrenchhead US

2007-02-19 18:46

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If I understand antp correctly he is saying: If it IS in the USA its a Merkur. If its NOT in the USA it is a Sierra. They are basically the same cars but named differently in different markets. This film was made in Aregntina so it a Sierra.

DIEHARD NL

2007-02-19 18:48

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carchasesfanatic wrote But dont you see that these one ive added and the other one of the other movie listed as a Sierra has the same C pillar window of a Merkur?


Yes they have, as they are the same car. Just called differently. In the US Merkur Sierra XR4i, every where else Ford Sierra XR4i....

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 18:49

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i have understood that wrenchhead, but i eman about the windows, anyway i got to go now so ill ask later again

wrenchhead US

2007-02-19 18:54

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Carchasefanatic, sorry, I was not trying to be pedantic or instructing you. Perhaps I should have phrased my comment differently. I just wanted to make sure that I understood antp correctly ;)

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antp BE

2007-02-19 22:03

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carchasesfanatic wrote but i eman about the windows

Sierra XR4i has the same windows as the Merkur, as the Merkur IS a Sierra XR4i. But of course not all Sierra have windows like that.

car nerd US

2007-02-19 22:11

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Just to make things more confusing... :D The Merkur was sold with the US 2.3 4 cylinder turbo engine. Not a brilliant engineering feat. This engine has serious turbo lag and sounded very unrefined (it was basically an old Pinto "Lima" 2.3 four with a turbo -- and eventually an intercooler). At any rate, they marketed the Merkur as a direct competitor to the contemporary BMW 3-series and failed. The Euro-version Sierra had some interesting models of it's own (the Cosworth comes to mind) but Ford decided it couldn't import those for various reasons. Too bad

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-19 23:37

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antp wrote
Sierra XR4i has the same windows as the Merkur, as the Merkur IS a Sierra XR4i. But of course not all Sierra have windows like that.


That is what i just wanted to hear from you Antoine :p thanks, at last, and dont wory wrenchhead, i didnt mean it you was pedantic ;)

antp BE

2007-02-19 23:47

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I thought that the link that I posted above explained it, showing a Sierra like that... http://www.brugt-biler.dk/Ford%20Sierra.htm

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carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-20 00:00

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But only Sierras in Argentina have the C pillar windows like the Merkur, right? or is it in all South America?

antp BE

2007-02-20 00:06

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Everywhere. We had these in Europe. But not all Sierra, only some of the coupÚ Sierra, mostly the XR4i I guess :o

-- Last edit: 2007-02-20 00:08:00

carchasesfanatic ES

2007-02-20 00:15

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ah ok, so the Merkur didnt have a special desing, i thought so, ok, now i understand everything.

landrover1 AR

2007-02-20 00:48

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i remember when i was child im a fan of the ford sierra xr4...and then i become a ford fan lol
yeah is a xr4
soon i will post here pics of a test made by an argentinian car magazine...this was the car that i wanna drive when i was a child...

antp BE

2007-02-20 11:55

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I also liked that Sierra when I was child, mostly because of that Solido model that I liked:
http://antp.be/pic/miniatures/00000112.jpg

Gomselmash11

2010-03-19 23:12

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Built in Argentina: http://www.cocheargentino.com.ar/f/ford_sierra.htm#cupe 1984+

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