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1969 Chevrolet C-Series Stake

1969 Chevrolet C-Series in The A-Team, TV Series, 1983-1987 IMDB Ep. 2.08

Class: Cars, Chassis Cab — Model origin: US

1969 Chevrolet C-Series Stake

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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crossroads US

2007-01-06 20:08

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Chevrolet C-10

4x4peru US

2007-01-07 05:08

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This looks C30. Note the wide stake bed and maybe dual rear wheels? Better pic would help.

Ddey65 US

2007-03-03 15:35

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1969 or 1970.

eLMeR NR

2015-02-06 02:26

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Stakes are usually classified as "Trucks, Simple truck" in the IMCDb, not as pickups.
Stake models from the Action Line C-Series are either C-20 or C-30 ones: 127"/3.23 m wheelbase for the first one, 133"/3.39 m one for the second.
Both had single rear wheels as standard and dual as option, so this can't be used as a clue.

With what can be seen here, shouldn't we just say

⇒ 1969 Chevrolet C-Series Stake?
(with Class: trucks, Simple truck?)

antp BE

2015-02-06 15:33

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Maybe rather chassis cab then if the only difference between the pickup and the stake is the style of the rear

eLMeR NR

2015-02-06 19:49

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antp wrote Maybe rather chassis cab then if the only difference between the pickup and the stake is the style of the rear

Same with the panels and the dump trucks ;)

Stakes and platforms were sold as ready-to-go trucks, not as naked chassis-cab that had to be bodied. And medium- and/or heavy-duty models have no pickup equivalent. That's why I think they "deserve" the "simple truck" class.

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antp BE

2015-02-09 16:23

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Chassis-cab is not especially naked.
They are in the "car" category of the site, like light/medium duty trucks.
"simply truck" is for the French "porteur" category of medium/heavy trucks (as we didn't find a better English translation), opposed to the semi-trailer ("tracteur") trucks.

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rjluna2 US

2015-02-09 16:31

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eLMeR wrote Stakes and platforms were sold as ready-to-go trucks, not as naked chassis-cab that had to be bodied. And medium- and/or heavy-duty models have no pickup equivalent. That's why I think they "deserve" the "simple truck" class.

They were sold as chassis-cab for third party add-on such as stake bed, box body, tow-truck and etc.

rjluna2 US

2015-02-09 16:35

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antp wrote medium/heavy trucks (as we didn't find a better English translation)


I tried to do Google translate and it spit out: moyennes/lourdes camions :think:

antp BE

2015-02-10 17:51

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No, I mean I didn't find a better English translation for the French truck type "porteur".
Does "Carrier" fit the description? (opposed to semi-trailer tractor truck)
It seems used for planes, I don't know if it is for trucks too.

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rjluna2 US

2015-02-11 03:18

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I'm not sure if this would help on this: Flat bed truck with holes at the edge to use some kind of fence with wood slot to fit in the holes.

There is no French page on Wikipedia for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatbed_truck :/

Okay, I checked on Google translate for Flatbed truck: Camion ŕ plateau :think:

Back to the point, French Wikipedia came up with Camion for Truck :think:

There is a disambiguation page for porteur: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porteur for 3.5 tonne truck (Metric).

eLMeR NR

2015-02-11 04:19

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rjluna2 wrote They were sold as chassis-cab for third party add-on such as stake bed, box body, tow-truck and etc.

Maybe for other makes, but not in the Chevrolet truck lines, where they had their own brochures or were at least described as separated models:
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(1948, 1956, 1964, 1968)

Chevrolet internal code for stakes was x9 (x8 for platforms), while the one for chassis-cab was x3. I use x as base of the code, as this part changes depending of the truck line.
Moreover, most of Chevrolet trucks having here the "Trucks, simple truck" in the IMCDb (like this one) were only sold as... chassis + cab :D
[Image: 1967%20Chevrolet%20Series%2070%20and%2080-02.jpg?m=1360027192]
1967 Series 70 and 80 brochure: trucks sold as HM71003 to HM82513, the final 3 meaning here again "Chassis + cab" in Chevrolet codes.

As I "work" a lot with Chevrolet literature and codes, I'm now used to see the stakes and platform as "simple trucks" and that's why I find it weird classifying them as chassis + cab. All the more as the "simple truck" class I proposed so far was apparently accepted without problem.
In my mind, chassis + cab should be kept only for real special bodies like milk trucks, armored ones or coach-builder makings. Or we should completely rethink the classification in the IMCDb: a lot of US buses are most of the time made from a cowl/cab + chassis, and so are tow trucks and fire trucks...
But once again, I can adapt even if I don't fully agree with it ;)

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eLMeR NR

2015-02-11 04:24

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By the way, about "Camion porteur": I think it's more or less what the Encyclopćdia Britannica calls a straight truck.
(And stakes fit the straight truck definition, for me :D )

@rjluna2: isn't "Flatbed" a kind of synonym of platform, or often used instead of stake?

-- Last edit: 2015-02-11 04:28:12

rjluna2 US

2015-02-11 13:49

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eLMeR wrote @rjluna2: isn't "Flatbed" a kind of synonym of platform, or often used instead of stake?

Yes, the fence/gate on the flatbed can be remove and replace when needed. They are usually sold as part of the assembly. Some model sells without the 'stake' with deleted credit on the option list.

antp BE

2015-02-11 17:45

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Maybe we could change "simple truck" to "straight truck" indeed, it seems to fit the description. No objection?
For the v3 of the site I think I'll merge the car/bus/truck categories, as it is too complicated to really categorize them in every case.

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eLMeR NR

2015-02-11 22:03

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antp wrote Maybe we could change "simple truck" to "straight truck" indeed, it seems to fit the description. No objection?

You mean any objection to give this class a more accurate name? Mmmh, let me think about it some seconds... :think:
:D

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eLMeR NR

2015-02-12 03:08

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Still identified as C-30. Does it mean there is a special clue to see that model here rather than a generic C-Series?

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antp BE

2015-02-12 17:56

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I meant objections in case in US-English that seemed a worse choice of name
About C-30/C-Series, I guess with all that discussion either I forgot to change it, or someone changed it back (unlikely).

rjluna2 US

2015-02-12 19:03

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eLMeR wrote Still identified as C-30. Does it mean there is a special clue to see that model here rather than a generic C-Series?

The C-30 series usually have rear dual wheels on each side.

See 4x4peru's comments at: /vehicle_78669-Chevrolet-C-Series-1969.html#Comment180641

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eLMeR NR

2015-02-12 19:32

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As already said, both had single rear wheels as standard and dual as option (see the 1967 brochure, 1968 one, etc.), so I think this can't be used as a clue ;)

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