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Made for Movie Mercedes-Benz LG3000 based on GMC CCKW 353 chassis

Made for Movie Mercedes-Benz LG3000 in Raiders of the Lost Ark, Movie, 1981 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: US

Made for Movie Mercedes-Benz LG3000 based on GMC CCKW 353 chassis

Position 01:20:10 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

Comments about this vehicle

AuthorMessage

antp BE

2004-08-07 01:17

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Les sigles Mercedes ont été rajoutés pour le faire passer pour un camion allemand.

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-- Last edit: 2007-01-01 23:20:51

Ralph DE

2004-11-14 22:27

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Mercedes-Benz Lo2750, 2,75-ton, 1933-1936, 4-cyl Diesel 65hp





This is not a US 'GMC CCKW 353'


antp BE

2004-11-14 23:40

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As I said in French, it is not a real Mercedes truck. The Mercedes symbol has been added on this GMC truck to make it look like a Mercedes one.

le camionneur FR

2005-04-29 22:27

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c'est un mercedes et non un gmc

antp BE

2005-04-30 00:30

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Pourtant d'après pas mal de sources ça serait un GMC modifié pour ressembler à un Mercedes...

antp BE

2005-04-30 00:32

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D'ailleurs comparé à la photo le rapport largeur/hauteur de la calandre semble différent, et le sigle n'a pas le même aspect non plus.

carfan US

2005-08-24 00:26

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HELLO!! this is a mercedes! not a gmc the truck has a mercedes star hood ornament and the star is on the radiator

antp BE

2005-08-24 10:11

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As explained above, this truck is a GMC one with an added Mercedes sign. I am not sure that the info is correct, but it is listed on the trivia page of IMDB, and on some other site that seem to be serious.

carfan US

2005-09-11 16:41

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Every one look in the imcdb forum and look for any thing about this raiders of the lost ark truck

Carfan US

2006-01-24 02:20

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i heard on a website that this truck is a Mercedes Wehrmacht troop truck

Aviator

2006-04-10 13:16

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I´m quite sure it´s a Mercedes-Benz LG63 (LG3000).

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/1876a_222.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/1759_156.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/TRUCK.jpg

-- Last edit: 2006-04-10 13:43:05

antp BE

2006-04-10 13:42

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We can list it as Mercedes, I do not care, but as "official" sources say it is a replica build on a GMC I thought it was better to list it as GMC.

And your first two pictures show a much different truck, for sure the truck used in the movie is not the same than that one. The third picture seem similar, I guess it is that model. But again, it could be a replica...

junkman UK

2006-04-10 14:57

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It is a made for movie replica of the Mercedes LG3000, most likely on a GMC chassis. First of all, this is a 6x6, see the front axle, whereas the real Mercedes was a 4x2. Note also all the other significant differences between a real Mercedes and this thing. Furthermore, the movie makers officially revealed that it was a replica. Also, real Mercedes trucks of this vintage are so rare, that I seriously doubt anybody would lend his example for that kind of scene being filmed.

Aviator

2006-04-10 17:13

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The third pic shows the truck in Disneyland. It is said to be the screen used one.

antp BE

2006-04-10 18:15

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That explains why the third pic is so similar, so it does not prove that it is a real Mercedes truck

Aviator

2006-04-10 20:06

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Yes. I think it is really a replica. In this screenshot you can see a shock absorber of the truck(if they used the same truck for this scene). And Mercedes trucks didn´t have shock absorbers till 1954.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/pdvd_374.jpg

Delta Fox US

2006-08-24 19:21

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Dude, that's a Mercedes, NOT a GMC. :no:

antp BE

2006-08-24 21:08

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Read the previous messages.
It is a GMC with a fake Mercedes-Benz hood and cab.

Delta Fox US

2006-09-11 22:27

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Sorry dude, but there are previous messages saying that it's a Mercedes.

antp BE

2006-09-11 22:42

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"It is a Ford Pinto"

now there is a message saying that's a Ford Pinto, it does not mean that it is true.

Alexander DE

2006-09-11 22:58

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Sure it's not a Pinto???

:D

DIEHARD NL

2006-09-11 23:07

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I think it is a Peugeot 505 Break... The GMC chassis and the Mercedes stars are just thing that are meant that way, to set us on the wrong track identifying it....and if it is not a 505 it is obviously not a Talbot Horizon but a Renault Supercinq! :D

Delta Fox US

2006-09-12 19:37

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Actually, I now believe it's a Bedford Chevy

antp BE

2007-10-04 15:11

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You need to
- get a sense of humour
- read messages above

truck man US

2007-11-12 02:38

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antp, how the hell do you know this truck is a replica mercedes-benz LG3000 built on a GMC chassis? And I wonder how I can get a sense of humour better then what I got... :o Since I'm one of the few members that likes to joke around with others...

-- Last edit: 2010-06-23 06:02:51

chris40 UK

2007-11-12 09:50

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I don't know how Antoine knew, but I guessed it was a CCKW as soon as I got a look at the front wheels. It's like putting a Rolls-Royce grille on a VW Beetle: doesn't make it a Rolls-Royce, does it? :D

truck man US

2007-11-12 16:49

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No,it makes it a mercedes-benz,Mr. Sherlock Holmes.

G-MANN UK

2007-11-12 18:18

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Can you prove that?

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:23:45

G-MANN UK

2007-11-12 18:29

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To all those who think this is a Mercedes, think about it, this is a Hollywood film, they needed a truck and a car (the Mercedes replica also listed for this film) for a big chase. It would have more difficult to get hold of original WWII German vehicles in good, reliable condition to put through their paces for this action scene. So since this film was made by an American studio, they probably found it easier to get an old U.S. Army truck (those things are probably built to last and have been maintained over the years) and make it look more like a German Army Mercedes truck.

I can't say for sure exactly what this is, but it does look doubtful that this is a real Merc so I believe what antp says.

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:32:01

Ingo DE

2007-11-12 18:47

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In my opinion it's not a real Mercedes, too. The size of the windows (front and side) is strange, I think too big. And this type of front-screen looks not Mercedes-like (resp. typical for the simplified German trucks, produced during the war). And the grille seem to wide, compared with the rest of the body.

I just have checked the original photos of my wife's grandfather from the war 1940 in France, because he took photos of all vehicles they had (and which were destroyed, too). Unfortunately they mostly had Opel Blitz, some Citroen and one truck, which I cannot identify.

Or let's make the easiest way: the next one of the forum-members, who visits Disneyland, checks the truck there. When the "original fake" is still exististing, like here, it's not a big thing.

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:48:16

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-11-12 19:09

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G-MANN wrote To all those who think this is a Mercedes, think about it, this is a Hollywood film, they needed a truck and a car (the Mercedes replica also listed for this film) for a big chase. It would have more difficult to get hold of original WWII German vehicles in good, reliable condition to put through their paces for this action scene. So since this film was made by an American studio, they probably found it easier to get an old U.S. Army truck (those things are probably built to last and have been maintained over the years) and make it look more like a German Army Mercedes truck.

Yes, except that the Raiders production was based at Elstree studios in the UK. It would make sense to source the truck and customise it in the UK (the desert scenes were filmed in Tunisia) instead of shipping one over from the US.

Anyway, I can't believe that people are still arguing about whether this is a real Mercedes. :)

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 20:40:48

chris40 UK

2007-11-12 20:35

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[:duel] Nor can I. For what it's worth, there are still to this day a good few CCKWs in Europe; even in the UK you rarely see a WW2 reenactment (e.g. the Severn Valley Railway's 1940s weekends) without at least one.
Here's a picture of an ongoing restoration which might help to convince the sceptics ...
http://commemo.rangers.free.fr/refection/photo-353/GMC%20PASCAL%201.jpg
... although I doubt it!

truck man US

2007-11-12 20:49

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No,I cant prove it,and I'm sorry,plus I'm starting to agree that this truck is a replica mercedes-benz built on a GMC chassis and heres why,because back in 1980 and still today,the real mercedes-benz LG3000 would be extremly rare to find,showroom condition or not,and I prety much doubt there's still a lot of these trucks left in the world.

Neptune US

2007-11-12 20:57

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truck man wrote No,it makes it a mercedes-benz,Mr. Sherlock Holmes.


:lol:

/vehicle.php?id=5613 ... See the 28th or 29th comment down ... :D

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 20:59:25

chris40 UK

2007-11-12 21:26

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Imitation, they say, is the sincerest form of flattery ... [:rotfl]

-- Last edit: 2007-11-12 21:26:46

Neptune US

2007-11-12 21:32

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God I hope not ... :D

truck man US

2007-11-12 23:15

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Boys,its was just a joke,neptune,sorry for copying your joke,I just couldn't resist,and by the way,I now agree that this truck is a replica mercedes-benz LG3000 built on a GMC chassis.

Ingo DE

2007-11-13 18:21

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chris40 wrote Imitation, they say, is the sincerest form of flattery ... [:rotfl]


Ooops, I read on the first view "flatulence" My fault :D

Kooshmeister US

2008-04-17 15:31

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Q-Ball JP

2008-08-29 17:46

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I believe that its a GMC. anyone can re-badge an old US army truck and say its german

reo24 FR

2008-12-17 13:39

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Hi everyone,
Spotted this site while looking for something else & I can actually help!
The truck IS a GMC. A friend of mine bought it from a museum, I taught Nicolas Lyndhurst to drive it in a made for TV film called Stalag Luft, after which it went to the States to one of the movie theme parks. There was a lot of plywood in the cab!

Kooshmeister US

2009-01-16 21:07

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Q-Ball wrote I believe that its a GMC. anyone can re-badge an old US army truck and say its german


They did more than re-badge it. They stripped it down and built a replica of a WWII Mercedes over it. Only flaws are it's too tall and too narrow to be a real LG3000.

(Hope I'm getting the meaning of the term "re-badge" correctly; I'm assuming it means to just slap a different emblem on a vehicle without making any other significant changes, which is not the case with this thing.)

-- Last edit: 2009-01-16 21:08:30

Kooshmeister US

2009-04-14 03:57

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Toy version:

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antp BE

2009-04-14 19:46

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Lego version: :D

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Kooshmeister US

2009-04-22 17:35

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Heh, I have that Lego set. Plus the Hasbro toys of both this and the Mercedes G5. :)

petep UK

2009-08-12 15:12

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It was a rebuilt GMC, a well known UK military vehicle collector bought it when the Lamanva company closed down (Lamanva used to supply military vehciles for films). He displayed it at the War and Peace show in Kent about ten or fifteen years ago before selling it on to Disney. The cab was all made of plywood the wheels were the origonals with most of the holes welded up and it ran like a total dog.

Trainboy12 UK

2009-12-16 18:54

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This is my moast favorite vehicle from the movie(apart from the Flying Wing).

Trainboy12 UK

2009-12-16 18:57

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Kooshmeister wrote Heh, I have that Lego set.


So do I.

racersg US

2012-06-21 00:54

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Alexander wrote Sure it's not a Pinto???

:D

Hmm, it's pretty hard to tell. :lol:

maxman CA

2012-07-22 06:19

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Has anyone been able to find Afrikakorps markings on the trucks?

ingo DE

2012-07-22 11:56

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If there were some, it would be annother anachronism, as in 1936, when this movie was set, there was no Afrikakops already existing.

maxman CA

2013-05-09 05:21

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Why is it Made for Movie? It's been identified as a GMC CCKW modified to look like an LG30000.

Kooshmeister wrote They did more than re-badge it. They stripped it down and built a replica of a WWII Mercedes over it. Only flaws are it's too tall and too narrow to be a real LG3000.


That's not the only flaw. LG3000s were not 6x6. They did not have a powered front axle.

-- Last edit: 2013-05-09 05:23:23

Lateef NO

2013-06-04 18:02

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Kooshmeister US

2014-07-30 07:28

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maxman wrote That's not the only flaw. LG3000s were not 6x6. They did not have a powered front axle.


I for one like these replicas, and prefer them to things like an anachronistic Opel Blitz and Kübelwagen (as was suggested on the G5's page), or, worse, a lazy feldgrau GMC truck and Dodge command car with no modifications.

-- Last edit: 2014-07-30 08:25:39

LencoBearcatGuy US

2014-08-04 01:17

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This truck now sits in Disneyland, California. And is it a poor sight. :cry:

-- Last edit: 2014-08-04 01:18:03

F355 UK

2016-06-29 02:40

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GMC CCKW

michail2003 UA

2016-08-02 12:25

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First Made For Movie on IMCDB

dogman15 US

2017-06-25 22:47

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Picture of this truck at Disneyland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Disneyindytruck1.jpg

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