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1938 Reliance HT2/B factory tug

1938 Reliance HT2/B in Builders, Short Movie, 1942

Class: Others, Ground conveyor — Model origin:

1938 Reliance HT2/B factory tug

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dsl ◊ 2014-08-27 00:38
mike962 ◊ 2014-10-31 15:23	LANSING ?
mike962 ◊ 2015-07-12 22:32	could this be the wanted vehicle ?? Link to "hmvf.co.uk"
dsl ◊ 2015-07-12 22:36	I'd be happy with that. What is it?? What does M T & T Co. on side of radiator mean??
night cub ◊ 2015-07-12 22:43	The other one he just identified was a "Mercury Truck & Tractor" tug. /vehicles_make-Mercury+Truck+%26+Tractor.html -- Last edit: 2015-07-12 22:44:56
mike962 ◊ 2015-07-12 22:43	I am not totally sure to be honest company is Mercury Industrial Tug Tractor a british producer here another specimen Link to "vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net" the axles do match however, with double wheels at rear -- Last edit: 2015-07-12 22:43:59
mike962 ◊ 2015-07-12 22:53	Quote The Mercury Truck and Tractor Co. were a manufacturer of Industrial Tractors and works trucks from the 1930s till the 1960s[clarification needed]. The company became part of Dennis and were sold as Dennis Mercury in the late 1960s before becoming Reliance Mercury in the 1970s http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Mercury_Truck_and_Tractor_Co.
dsl ◊ 2015-07-12 22:53	Mercury Truck & Tractor Station Tractor?? The plate in your last link - GHW 564 = GREY 1940 MERCURY UNKNOWN TIPPER
dsl ◊ 2015-07-12 23:07	.... and GHW 564 is still alive ✔ Taxed Tax due: 01 May 2016 MOT Exempt Vehicle make :MERCURY Date of first registration :20 February 1940 Year of manufacture :1940 Cylinder capacity (cc) :1802cc Fuel type :PETROL Vehicle status : Tax not due Vehicle colour :GREY Wheelplan :2 AXLE RIGID BODY The other grey one in link CSJ 655 = BLUE 1947 MERCURY OTHER AIRPORT SUPPORT UNIT ✔ Taxed Tax due: 01 September 2015 MOT Exempt Vehicle make :MERCURY Date of first registration :01 May 1992 Year of manufacture :1947 Cylinder capacity (cc) :1172cc CO₂Emissions : Not available Fuel type :PETROL Vehicle status : Tax not due Vehicle colour :BLUE Vehicle type approval :Not available Wheelplan :2 AXLE RIGID BODY The 1172cc for CSJ 655 matches johnfromStaffs wrote I reckon it's a tonsed-up Mercury Station Tractor, so it will sound like a Ford Ten. from /vehicle_723213-Mercury-Truck-and-Tractor-Station-Tractor.html , but no idea for 1802cc for GHW 564. Shall we go for Factory Tug as model?? Seems as good a name as any.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2015-07-12 23:24	1802cc is either the 1933 Morris Cowley side valve engine, or the 1950 to 1955 Nuffield Taxi/Hire Car overhead valve engine. Same DNA for either unit. -- Last edit: 2015-07-12 23:26:13
mike962 ◊ 2015-07-12 23:32	SOLVED for sure http://www.autotruck.org/apps/photos/photo?photoid=23647328 this is just a RELIANCE , notice also the badge , ironicaly later Reliance did merge with Mercury ... -- Last edit: 2015-07-12 23:34:28
dsl ◊ 2015-07-13 01:11	Never thought this one would be as complicated when I posted it ... Agreed Reliance for radiator badge, and maybe also width of front mudguards - the various online MT&Ts seem narrower. Neither make crops up as doubled rear wheelers online in the stuff I found, but not a problem. "RELIANCE TRUCKS - Circa 1935 Reliance Trucks formed as part of Redshaw Lister Woolen Machinery Co in Heckmondwike Yorkshire. Reliance built a variety of industrial vehicles of 3 and 4 wheeled configuration. In 1956 Reliance was bought by Marshalls (Halifax) Group; Marshalls were principally quarry owners and pre-cast concrete manufacturers who owned a subsidiary company called Halifax Tool Company, manufacturers of rock-drilling machinery and Reliance was purchased to gain extra fabrication facility. Reliance ran alongside Halifax Tool Company and in the late 1960s the trucks were badged as Halco-Reliance." plus album - http://www.autotruck.org/apps/photos/album.jsp?albumID=3840389 . Just a passing mention (in case we ever need to use it) that the late-30s MT&T tugs seem to be called Mertrak - http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Mercury_Truck_and_Tractor_Co
mike962 ◊ 2015-07-14 21:41	think it can be listed without model name we should be happy that at least the producer is known...
Sunbar ◊ 2017-11-10 16:55	1940s Reliance 4-wheel models produced... H/2 4-wheel tractor 4-cyl 1,802cc HT2/B 4-wheel tractor 4-cyl 1,802cc FWB 4-wheel load carrier 4-cyl 1,802cc The Reliance models from the early 1930s were all 3 wheelers and 600cc or 750cc twins... Modeks H/SL, H/RL, H/SSL, H/SRL and H/TSL which continued through post war. Its likely from the movie that the HT2/B 4-wheel tractor was the heavy duty model (by the twin rears?) and introduced (after 1935 certainly) so about 1938.

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