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stronghold ◊ 2006-12-08 10:51
Junkman ◊ 2006-12-08 13:59	Humber for sure. Which model? Snipe?
datsunZ ◊ 2006-12-08 19:04	Hawk or Pullman
MrCadillac ◊ 2006-12-09 03:27	It's a professional car (funeral coach) on Humber chassis.
antp ◊ 2006-12-09 12:58	Was it sold a commercial chassis (like Cadillacs) or could it have a model name ?
bent8rover ◊ 2006-12-12 01:13	1948-53 Humber Pullman Hearse The Hearse conversion was done by H.J Mulliner, otherwise Thrupp and Maberly. -- Last edit: 2006-12-12 01:23:04
Junkman ◊ 2006-12-13 16:27	bent8rover wrote 1948-53 Humber Pullman Hearse The Hearse conversion was done by H.J Mulliner, otherwise Thrupp and Maberly. I'm not convinced this is a Mulliner hearse. Retaining the standard windscreen and altering the front door window frames this way is more typical for Abbot of Farnham or Alpe & Saunders. Unfortunately the hearse seems to be no longer among us. Pitty, since it is darn nice.
bent8rover ◊ 2006-12-13 21:46	You may be correct. 1950 Mulliner-bodied examples were created, however if this is not one of them, Thrupp and Maberly were in-house builders for Humber so this may be the answer? The screen on this example does look quite different http://dissolute.com.au/avweb/emmabw/402-cars.html -- Last edit: 2006-12-13 21:56:36
Animatronixx ◊ 2008-02-16 03:17	That´s nothing less than a needle in a haystack, but I think I got it: There was a quite unknown firm named "Lawton Motor Bodybuilding" in the UK, that turned out Humber hearses. What you see below is their high line version (seemingly a rebuilt Woodall-Nicholson hearse with a new Lawton body). I am quite sure the one used in "Open All Hours" was a Humber low line hearse by Lawton.
mr hearse UK ◊ 2011-02-04 14:45	According to my records , the bodywork is by Jones Brothers, certainly not the Lawton..where did you get that picture from?
dsl ◊ 2012-05-25 00:11	1951 plate.
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-01-15 18:45	mr hearse UK wrote According to my records , the bodywork is by Jones Brothers, certainly not the Lawton..where did you get that picture from? The picture comes from a Lawton advertisement. But Jones Bros. Ltd. (NO, chillax! I ain't talking about the Jonas Brothers) makes a lot more sense here and nowadays, I believe that Lawton probably refurbished funeral coaches, but didn't build them.
dsl ◊ 2019-01-15 19:29	dsl wrote 1951 plate. But I now know those large round sidelights were only used on early Mk2 Pullmans, Sept 48 to Sept 49 after which a new horizontal format came in. But the 1951 date for FVH 34 still looks good (Huddersfield, April 51 to May 52). Nothing found on plate check sites now, so either became dog food tins a long time ago, or if it somehow survives, it's been re-registered. As for Lawton, I can find a book reference (2 paragraphs) to Lawton-Goodman, 19thC Liverpool carriage builders who opened up a factory in Cricklewood (London) in 1930s(??) and bought out the firm of Whitlock around the same time. Some road car bodies before WW2 (Rolls-Royce, Daimler, Beardsmore mentioned), but most of their work under Lawton and Whitlock names was apparently commercial bodies ("ambulances"). The Liverpool factory was sold to Armstrong-Siddeley in 1931, but London continued until early 1980s and company closed in 1991. Nothing on hearses or Humbers, but they seem to have been original builders rather than bootleg piggy-backers rehashing other people's stuff.
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-01-15 19:41	@dsl: What you found, must be another Lawton. I suspected Lawton Motor Body Building Co. Ltd. of Church Lawton, Stoke-On-Trent back in 2008 and it seems, like they were specialized in bus bodies until the 1950s.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-01-15 19:58	Lawton’s built the body of PRE 545, a 1948 Leyland Tiger PS2, new to Stanier of Newchapel. A picture of this bus appears on page 36 of the current issue of Classic Bus. The design resembles a contemporary body by Duple. They also rebodied WN 8976, a Dennis Lancet, for Rowbotham of Harriseahead in 1952, with a similar looking body incorporating a drooping side flash and a rather individual design of chariot panel, shown on page 34. The same article also includes a picture of OEH 238, another PS2/Lawton, modified in 1958 to front entrance by Lawton for demotion to stage carriage work. It belonged to Reliance of Stoke, so it seems Lawton’s gained a fair amount of work from local operators, and were still in business in 1958. -- Last edit: 2019-01-15 20:18:53
dsl ◊ 2019-01-15 20:12	AnimatronixX wrote Lawton Motor Body Building Co. Ltd. of Church Lawton, Stoke-On-Trent Another book reference (2 very short and cautious paras) - started 1920 with a Karrier WDS bus or in 1921 with a Ford chassis (apparently conflicting claims to what their first thing was) and built about 200 PSV bodies until closing in 1954, and "... the company also seems to have been a builder of hearses".
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-01-15 20:20	dsl wrote Another book reference (...) "... the company also seems to have been a builder of hearses". Yes, and as far as I know, that book was released in 2013. I bet the author got that information from here.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-01-15 20:24	Link to "www.old-bus-photos.co.uk" Reference is made during this article to Lawton’s, although mostly concerns Metalcraft. Maybe..... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00167523 -- Last edit: 2019-01-15 20:34:48
dsl ◊ 2019-01-15 20:42	AnimatronixX wrote ... that book was released in 2013. Yup, that's the one. But while it's sometimes a bit woolly, it's still a pretty good effort from a hippy LA-based singer-songwriter.
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-01-15 21:17	johnfromstaffs wrote http://www.old-bus-photos.co.uk/wp-content/themes/Old-Bus-Photos/articles/metalcraft/metalcraft_part_1.php Reference is made during this article to Lawton’s, although mostly concerns Metalcraft. Great info, thanks! Now there are three automobile enthusiasts researching for Lawton Motor Body Building at the same time - I wonder if that ever happened before. The company still exists and maintains a repair shop. If one of their staff members ever finds us: Hey, guys! dsl wrote (...) still a pretty good effort from a hippy LA-based singer-songwriter.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-01-17 09:27	/vehicle_588198-Leyland-Royal-Tiger-PSU1-15-1950.html Just an aide-memoire for those who may not have heard of Metalcraft. Unlikely, I know, but such ill-informed people may exist! -- Last edit: 2019-01-17 09:29:06
jcb ◊ 2022-09-06 20:00	Ep.1.02

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