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1978 Mercedes-Benz Lang [W123] 
Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: 
![1978 Mercedes-Benz Lang [W123]](i059931.jpg)
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◊ 2006-10-14 23:00
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W100 ? or W123 ? |
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◊ 2006-10-14 23:09
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W123 |
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◊ 2006-10-14 23:18
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V123 like the others W123-limousine that we have, I guess. |
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◊ 2006-10-15 00:27
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◊ 2006-10-15 00:31
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Introduced in August 1977 and only available as 240D, 300D and 250. |
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◊ 2006-10-15 12:08
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You guessed what I mean  |
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◊ 2006-10-16 18:15
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I think so... |
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◊ 2006-10-16 19:10
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Who is always changing it back to V123? ![[Image: nini.gif]](http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/nini.gif "http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/nini.gif") |
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◊ 2006-10-16 19:16
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Not me...I change it one time, but few minuts then re-change it to W123. |
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◊ 2006-10-16 19:52
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To avoid misunderstandings: W123 is correct! |
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◊ 2006-10-16 20:01
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Ok, Alexander, I also search infos, and you are right! .gif ";)") |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:01
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What about the other ones? /vehicles_make-Mercedes-Benz_model-v123.html |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:01
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me also once  but it was on 14th (me sorry, me no mean to bad .gif ":)") ) |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:03
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I originally posted it with the picture as V123 because all the limousine-W123-like were listed as V123, but did not change after that -- Last edit: 2006-10-16 21:03:57 |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:09
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I never noticed before. They are all W123. |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:10
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so where the heck came the idea of V from??  |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:14
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Perhaps from 'Long Vheelbase'... Someone made a typo and all the others copied without checking! |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:22
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maybe Verlängert? anyway quite funny when someone make typo on some special vehicle |
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◊ 2006-10-16 21:41
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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 Langversion (V123) Laut Mercedes Ersatzteile CD ist die Bezeichnung für den 250Lang: V123 E 28 -- Last edit: 2006-10-16 21:51:38 |
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◊ 2006-10-16 23:04
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Also some V124: /vehicles_make-Mercedes-Benz_model-V124.html But, Alex, why did you rename all these V123 so quickly?  It was not a typo... -- Last edit: 2006-10-16 23:04:35 |
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◊ 2006-10-16 23:33
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Try looking for 'Mercedes-Benz V123' on Google. Apart from the Wikipedia entry and subsequent copies of it I cannot confirm any other use but W123 for all variants. Have a look here for example: http://www.w123-club.de/html/w123.htm |
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◊ 2006-10-16 23:59
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I remembered that we talked about the Mercedes-Benz chassis codes before, almost exactly one year ago: Link to "forum.antp.be" At that time I received the information from DaimlerChrysler that the following codes are being used today: W for Limousine S for Estate/Break/Station Wagon A for Cabriolet C for Coupé R for Roadster V for Limousine with long wheel-base This system was started sometime in the 1990s, as far as I know. Before only W was used. I guess that some people try to introduce the new system for older models, too. This might even be true for parts lists handed out today that cover older models. To sum it up: For modern (approx. post 1990) long wheel-base limousines 'V' is correct, before 'W'. |
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◊ 2006-10-17 00:26
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what about R107 for example< it is pre 1990.. |
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◊ 2006-10-17 01:11
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... and it seems to be wrong! http://www.mercedesclubs.de/vdh/fahrzeugtypen/w107/w107.html |
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◊ 2006-10-17 11:59
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interesting.... |
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◊ 2006-10-17 13:46
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R107 seems quite common, though... |
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◊ 2006-10-17 13:56
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Be careful when you use the term 'Limousine' in an English (or French)context. The German word 'Limousine' denotes a saloon or sedan in English, or 'berline' in French. A 'Limousine' is something entirely different in English (or French). |
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◊ 2006-10-17 14:36
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Though it is usually used for stretched ones, in French it means 6-window sedan. In English (US & UK) it is even something different... cf this discussion: http://forum.imcdb.org/forum_topic-6-Limousines.html -- Last edit: 2006-10-17 14:37:41 |
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◊ 2006-10-17 14:56
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Basically in English a limousine is a highly prestigious car, used by the wealthy and the important. The stretch limousine has become more widespread now, but a limousine isn't necessarily a car that has been enlarged. It's partly to do with context, in a motorcade the car transporting the VIP is the limousine, even if it's a Mercedes S-Class or Jaguar XJ which when bought by a normal person might just be considered a saloon/sedan, albeit a luxurious one. Over time the concept of the limousine has changed, there was once a certain breed of ultra-luxury car like the Rolls-Royce Phantom/Park Ward and the Mercedes 600 and before that there things like the Maybach automobiles and the Bugatti Royale. Until recently there was a period where no main car-maker made a standard car that was quite on that level of supreme luxury, there were still Rolls-Royces and Bentleys which were very expensive but cars like the Mercedes S-Class, Cadillac DeVille, BMW 7-series and the Lincoln Town Car aren't really expensive enough to only be accessible to the super rich (you have to remember there was a time when ownly the super-rich oned cars and since then standard of living has increased and there are more rich people), but now we have the new Rolls-Royce Phantom and the Mercedes Maybach. A stretch-limousine nowadays is a customised car made a company outside of the one that made the base car, it's not something you buy from a car dealer. Examples of proper non-customised limousines are the Soviet ZiL, the Rolls-Royce Phantoms (the old ones), the Daimler DS420, the Cadillac Fleetwood 75 and the Mercedes 600 [W100]. On this I use the term Limousine to classifly anything that's stretched, plus cars like those I've mentioned. Basically if it's the kind of car you couldn't park in a ordinary car park, it's a limo. -- Last edit: 2006-10-17 15:06:12 |
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◊ 2006-10-17 19:41
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I got confused...What is it then? W123, no? |
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◊ 2006-10-17 23:38
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No wonder you got confused ... It is W123 for all versions, sedan, coupé, estate and limousine. Some time in the 1990s (long after the W123) new letters were introduced: W for sedan, C for coupé, S for estate, A for cabriolet, R for roadster, and V for limousine with long wheel-base. Some people (and even parts catalogues, as Ralph said) apply these new letter codes for old vehicles, too. Here it gets confusing and I would strongly advise not to do that for our classifications. So far I do not know when exactly in the 1990s this change took place, or if it was introduced individually with new models only. -- Last edit: 2006-10-17 23:38:59 |
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◊ 2006-10-18 00:08
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I think that we could still use R107/C107 for example as it is a very common one. But I agree that for the other old ones they should stay as W. |
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◊ 2006-10-18 17:50
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Thanks, now I understand! |
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◊ 2006-10-19 21:33
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I can also tag the porsche as a 986 Boxster |
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◊ 2008-10-17 00:24
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1978+ ( available as 250, 240 D and 300 D Lang ) |
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