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1970 Star 28 [A-28]

1970 Star 28 [A-28] in Nie lubie poniedzialku, Movie, 1971 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: PL

1970 Star 28 [A-28]

[*] Background vehicle

Comments about this vehicle

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garco NL

2006-08-30 09:58

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The truck.

Alexander DE

2006-08-30 11:56

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It is a Star 28 (1968), produced by FCS (Fabryka Samochodów Ciężarowych).

garco NL

2006-08-30 12:23

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Then it should be FSC Star 28?

Alexander DE

2006-08-30 12:30

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To my sources not ... I would have used it otherwise. ;)

But I am not accustomed how the names were used in Poland. The three letter names we have listed for most vehicles (FSO, FSM, WSK, ...) are initialisms for the factories, followed by a (brand/model) name (like Star, Syrena, ...) followed by a model number.

Some publications, like period advertisements would certainly help to clear it up.

If you look around on the internet the factory names are usually not used ... but that is no proof!

garco NL

2006-08-30 12:45

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I'm asking it because there is another FSC in this movie, a Star 27...
Maybe you can check that one too... ;)

Alexander DE

2006-08-30 13:01

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Perhaps Michał (Weasel1984) can help, as we have the same naming problem for most vehicles from Poland.
/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&origin=PL

There is only very little on the Star history I found so far:
http://www.man-mn.pl/en/company/MAN-STARTRUCKS/History.jsp

Another funny thing is that there are links for 'FSC' and 'FCS'!

weasel1984 PL

2006-08-30 13:20

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Marketed as "Star" (only), but I've called these trucks "FSC Star" here, because name "Star" is already exists on IMCDb for old british cars.
Now you should rename (without FSC) also these two -> /vehicle.php?id=46939 , /vehicles_make-FSC.html - sorry for this problem. :(


-- Last edit: 2006-08-30 19:26:52

Alexander DE

2006-08-30 20:56

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weasel1984 wrote ... sorry for this problem. :(

Don't worry about that. :)
We already have a few other 'double makes':
- Adams (car, GB) and Adams (construction, USA)
- Eagle (bus, USA) and Eagle (car, USA)
- Liaz (truck, CZ/CS) and LiAZ (bus, SU/RUS)
- Marmon (car, USA) and Marmon (truck, USA) [not sure if they are not connected]
- Triumph (car and bike <1936, GB), then two companies car (GB) and bike (GB) plus since early 1900s bike (D)
and Star, which already had two makes, and now a third: car, GB; car, USA; truck, Poland

Antoine, I think we have to introduce numbers: Star (1) - Star (2) - Star (3)

weasel1984 PL

2006-08-30 21:14

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Alexander wrote
... Antoine, I think we have to introduce numbers: Star (1) - Star (2) - Star (3)


Alright, thanks. :)

Edit:
Two other Stars 28/29 [*]:
[Image: star1b.6840.jpg] [Vehicle Image 50044]
I've replaced main pic to do not have two identical pics (it was same one like this of Simca 1000).

-- Last edit: 2009-04-05 19:13:25

antp BE

2006-08-30 22:01

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Alexander wrote
Antoine, I think we have to introduce numbers: Star (1) - Star (2) - Star (3)


That would look really bad :/
I think that it is better, when possible, to add a part to the name, like FSC in this case... or just keep them listed together?
Another solution would be to change the structure of the database to list makes separately from models, and so the "make" would be a reference to an entry in the makes list and not just a free text like currently. It would allow duplicate names, but a second field would be required for adding details (like "cars"/"bus", or "PL"/"GB"/"USA")

Alexander DE

2006-08-31 00:45

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antp wrote

That would look really bad :/
I think that it is better, when possible, to add a part to the name, like FSC in this case... or just keep them listed together?
Another solution would be to change the structure of the database to list makes separately from models, and so the "make" would be a reference to an entry in the makes list and not just a free text like currently. It would allow duplicate names, but a second field would be required for adding details (like "cars"/"bus", or "PL"/"GB"/"USA")

That is more or less the way I would like to have it. I didn't want the numbers to show up, perhaps only in the list of all vehicle makes. Taking the country or the vehicle type will not be sufficient: Triumph is used twice in GB, and used for two bike manufacturers. Something like a number (with an attached explanation) will be needed for the correct classification when the 'make' field is edited.

antp BE

2006-08-31 10:54

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By the "or" I was meaning any text displayed when we select the make but not displayed on the vehicle page ;)
So we could have in the list:
Triumph (<1930)
Triumph (bikes)
Triumph (bikes, D)
Triumph (cars)
Star (USA)
Star (GB)
Star (PL)
etc.

-- Last edit: 2006-08-31 10:55:50

jplemoine FR

2006-08-31 11:03

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Marrant: ça fait un moment que ça me titille: l'autre jour, je cherchais une moto BMW... au hasard des 30 et quelques pages de BMW à quate roues. Les motos y sont dispersées...

Donc, serait-il possible, en recherche, de distinguer les motos des autos, ou PL ou autres, au sein d'une même marque? (si ça a été dit un peu plus haut, c'est que mon anglais est défaillant, ce qui ne m'étonnerait point...)

antp BE

2006-08-31 14:00

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Ça c'est un autre problème... pour BMW c'est bien la même marque :D
À propos des motos dispersées, on a le même problème avec les autos de plein de générations différentes éparpillées aussi. On avait un jour évoqué l'idée de classer les voitures par époque.

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