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1977 Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183]

1977 Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183] in La proie, Movie, 2011 IMDB

Class: Cars, Off-road / SUV — Model origin: DE

1977 Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183]

[*] Background vehicle

Comments about this vehicle


ingo DE

2011-08-18 15:32


VW or Bombardier, which version is/was in use in the France army?

kudos SX

2011-08-18 17:13


Renault TRM 4000 too.

kegare JP

2011-08-18 19:57


Yes, but no closer view available for it.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2011-08-18 20:35


ingo wrote VW or Bombardier, which version is/was in use in the France army?

Neither, but Citroen did enter a version of the Iltis into a French army competition, which was won by the G-Wagen-based Peugeot P4.

Quote In the late 1970s the French government decided it was time to replace their aging fleet of Hotchkiss Jeeps and like Germany they called out for offers. No French company had a fitting vehicle on hand and designing one from the ground up would have been too expensive so they worked with the manufacturers that did have something to offer. Peugeot teamed up with Mercedes, put a 504 engine in the G-Wagen and called it the P4, Saviem put a Renault 20 engine in Fiat’s Campagnola and dubbed it the TRM500 and Citroen built the C44, a Volkswagen 183 powered by a CX engine. In the end the P4 was awarded the contract and the other two projects were scrapped but a team entered a C44 in the 1981 Paris-Dakar. It did not finish the race.

Link to "en.wikipedia.org"

-- Last edit: 2011-08-18 20:53:31

blue_thunder AT

2011-08-18 20:41


Well, very good catch, but you mixed sth. up. The Peugeot P4 was based on the Austrian built Puch/Mercedes G.

The "french" VW Iltis is a Citroen C44

But finally you solved that mystery ;)

kegare JP

2011-08-18 20:44


He answered Ingo's question regarding what vehicles were in use by the French army, he didn't mean to imply the Iltis pictured here is actually a Peugeot P4. :)

blue_thunder AT

2011-08-18 20:46


a lot of confusion, but with his posting he still solved that mystery, what kind of car that is ;)

kegare JP

2011-08-18 20:48


No, because the Citroen C44 was just a concept which never entered mass production.

Jale PL

2011-08-18 21:02


Maybe one of the Belgian Army cars? They have 2.500 from Bombardier - http://www.reocities.com/spoelstra.geo/vw183/index.htm

130rapid PL

2011-08-18 21:12


I think it's the best trace, Jale.


2014-03-05 02:02


Pour moi, il s'agit d'un Volkswagen et non d'un Bombardier parce que l'armée française a été en possession de Volkswagen Iltis. ;)

Outre les armées allemandes, belges et canadiennes, les Forces Françaises à Berlin (FFB) ont été équipées de ce véhicule, en particulier les pelotons Reconnaissance Orientation Commando (ROC) chargés d'effectuer les patrouilles zonales le long du mur de Berlin.

Quelques photos par ici:

Donc pour moi, il s'agit d'un 1977+ Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183].

-- Last edit: 2014-03-05 02:05:14

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