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1936 Wolseley 18/80 [Series II]

1936 Wolseley 18/80 [Series II] in The Singing Detective, Mini-Series, 1986 IMDB Ep. 5

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1936 Wolseley 18/80 [Series II]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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chicomarx BE

2011-05-15 22:06

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zodiac SE

2011-05-15 23:09

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It seems that the 18/85 model was rather popular with the police, at least according to this page http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/WOLSELEY%201946.html .

dsl SX

2011-05-16 00:17

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My info is 18/85 introduced Sept 38, discontinued 1940; then resumed Oct 45 or soon after until final stop in Dec 48. Although zodiac's link suggests there was no actual production 1938-40, it seems unlikely that a 1950s trade guide - my source - would continue to include this first phase unless it was genuine; if their chassis numbers are accurate about 1500 18/85s were made 1938-40; postwar, possibly about 8280 made. But I don't know these cars apart from what I read ...

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chicomarx BE

2011-05-16 01:00

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The English gents will know...

chris40 UK

2011-05-16 08:52

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chicomarx, are you implying that a Scotsman (albeit adopted) shouldn't? IMHO this is a prewar (1936-8) 18/80. This is a 1938-48 18/85: /vehicle_115880-Wolseley-18-85-1946.html . Note the vertical C-pillar and the lack of a spare-wheel carrier in the boot lid.

zodiac SE

2011-05-16 13:58

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@chiromax, I think you're right this being an earlier model. But can anyone tell whether this is an 18/80 or an 14/56, I find these rather similar Link to "www.motorbase.com" and http://www.carandclassic.com/car/C199168?pt=pf . I'm trying to learn to spot earlier models...

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chicomarx BE

2011-05-16 18:21

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@chris40 you mean ;)

chris40 UK

2011-05-16 20:11

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Indeed ... I hoped I wasn't that forgettable. You could well be right; I was thinking that the car had been misidentified as an 18/85. IIRC (it was a long time ago) the 14/56 wasn't very popular, as it was a lot of motor for 14 h.p. (1818 cc) to drag around; but it was replaced by the 14/60, which was almost identical to the 18/85.

dsl SX

2011-05-16 20:30

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My book which tells me facts about cars which I have never heard of says:
- 14/56 introduced June 36 (1818cc, 8'10" wheelbase), replaced by 14/60 Sept 38 (same size engine, now 8'8.5" wb, "waistline tapered towards front"). 14/60 stopped (1940? - year not stated) restarted Dec 45 until Dec 48.
- 18/80 introduced Sept 36 (2322cc, 8'10" wheelbase), replaced by 18/85 Sept 38 (same size engine, now 8'8.5" wb, "rear opening luggage boot" - no comment on tapering waistline). 18/85 stopped (1940? - year not stated) restarted Oct45 until Dec 48.
So I interpret this as 14/56 and 18/80 sharing first body and 14/60 and 18/85 sharing a second which had slight changes from the earlier style. Does that make sense?

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chris40 UK

2011-05-16 21:04

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Yes, it does. Doesn't make our job any easier, does it? :/ I think the 14/60 will have ceased production in Dec. '48 too; they were replaced by the 4/50 and 6/80.

dsl SX

2011-05-17 03:18

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Either 1936 or 18/85, but not both.

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