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1985 Carbodies FX4R

1985 Carbodies FX4R in In the Name of the Father, Movie, 1993 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1985 Carbodies FX4R

Position 1:07:58 [*] Background vehicle

Comments about this vehicle

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coopey ES

2006-06-14 16:23

the taxi

garco NL

2006-06-14 16:28

LTI?

explorer4x4

2006-06-14 16:53

I am 100% sure its not American.

-- Last edit: 2006-06-14 16:53:34

stronghold EN

2006-06-14 16:53

it looks older than the LTI model ...so... Austin FX4.
(the taxi...way back next to the bus is a Metrocab.!)

-- Last edit: 2006-06-14 16:55:25

Yvon52 BE

2006-06-14 17:04

Un Metrocab de la fin des années 1980 (en arrière-plan = en tout petit)

-- Last edit: 2006-06-14 17:18:29

antp BE

2006-06-14 17:15

Explorer4X4 wrote I am 100% sure its not American.

Well, even if you never saw one in real, I guess that you know that these black taxis are London taxis (and so they are English...)

SteveA EN

2006-06-14 18:26

MCW Metrobus in the background.....

Sunbar UK

2007-01-28 17:22

edit - correction 1979 black over-riders on chrome bumpers Austin remained the maker . LTI from 1982 to 1985

-- Last edit: 2007-01-28 17:40:48

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-28 17:38

Sunbar wrote LTI from 1979 to 1985 - black over-riders on chrome bumpers.

Wasn't LTI called Carbodies back then?

Sunbar UK

2007-01-28 17:53

Gag Halfrunt wrote
Wasn't LTI called Carbodies back then?


Some I think could have been. Do you know any of the details? "Carbodies" have not currently been listed on IMCDb as a manufacturer so it would be of interest.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-28 18:24

Sunbar wrote

Some I think could have been. Do you know any of the details? "Carbodies" have not currently been listed on IMCDb as a manufacturer so it would be of interest.

IIRC Carbodies was renamed LTI in the late eighties or early nineties. Wikipedia says it acquired the rights to the FX4 in 1982, so this 1979 model would indeed be an Austin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Taxis_International

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-28 18:26

Ah:
Quote Carbodies was bought by Manganese Bronze Holdings plc in 1973. Then, in 1982, Carbodies took over the intellectual rights to the FX4 from British Leyland.

When Manganese Bronze bought Mann & Overton in 1984, a new company by the name of London Taxis International was formed to manufacture and sell taxis.

http://www.lti.co.uk/about/history/

antp BE

2007-01-28 18:54

Some of those that we listed as LTI were in fact registered as Carbodies (at least one, I remember that I have put a comment on that one)

Sunbar UK

2007-01-28 19:16

In doing some searching for any reliable information that could be found about Carbodies as a manufacturer I believe this is the best source. LTI themselves - under 'LTI History'.

1973, Carbodies was bought by Manganese Bronze Holdings plc.

1982, Carbodies took over the intellectual rights to the FX4 from British Leyland.

1984, Manganese Bronze bought Mann & Overton and a new company by the name of 'London Taxis International' was formed to manufacture and sell taxis.

Therefore Taxis built between 1982 and 1984 are 'Carbodies'.
Up to 1982 they are 'Austin', and after 1984 'LTI'.

This is the way I propose we list them. Is anyone in agreement?


The problem is that, in some cases, DVLA registration continued after 1984 with 'Carbodies' as manufacturer see this example.

/vehicle_36081-LTI-FX4S.html

E219 MYL
Manufacturer CARBODIES
Model TAXI/HIRE CAR
Body type TAXI
Colour BLACK
Fuel type HEAVY OIL
Date manufactured 30 December 1988

-- Last edit: 2007-01-28 19:18:35

antp BE

2007-01-28 19:25

Also: /vehicle.php?id=75899

I think that it would be easier to list them as LTI even if they are Carbodies, but when the year is sure we can use the right name...

Sunbar UK

2007-01-28 19:40

Agreed - I have no problem listing them all as LTI from 1982 onwards (even if some were possibly called Carbodies). :)

Gag Halfrunt, Sorry I missed seeing your posts until now. It seems we were looking at the same information. ;)

-- Last edit: 2007-01-28 19:44:21

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-28 19:55

Sunbar wrote
The problem is that, in some cases, DVLA registration continued after 1984 with 'Carbodies' as manufacturer see this example.

Come ti think of it, I'm pretty sure the LTI name didn't appear on taxis until well after 1984. Perhaps the company website is wrong. :)

Sunbar UK

2007-01-29 15:18

Gag Halfrunt wrote
Come ti think of it, I'm pretty sure the LTI name didn't appear on taxis until well after 1984. Perhaps the company website is wrong. :)


So the only thing that can be said is the 'LTI' badging was not used until sometime after the London Taxis International Company was formed as you said. ;)

austin-rover.co.uk says that 'LTI' badging was introduced with the FX4S in 1985.

However the taxi model information from elitelondontaxis.co.uk says it was 'Carbodies' for the FX4S and FX4R Plus, following which from 1989 the Fairway and Fairway Driver were 'LTI' models.

So without more specific information the naming remains as it is currently on IMCDb. They are all LTI once they were separated from the Austin brand.

Lateef NO

2013-07-21 17:43

The vehicle details for C375 CUU are:
Date of Liability 01 12 1997
Date of First Registration 28 10 1985
Year of Manufacture 1985
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2286cc
Fuel Type HEAVY OIL
Vehicle Colour BLACK

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