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1982 Dacia 1300

1982 Dacia 1300 in Kapitalism - Reteta noastra secreta, Documentary, 2010 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: RO

1982 Dacia 1300

Position 00:07:18 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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ingo DE

2012-05-03 13:13

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I bet a crate of beer (German or Czech - sorry, right now the workbench is my only Romanian made thing in the house), that this scene is footage, made before the 25th December 1989.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-03 20:20

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Absolutely right! 1980s - Dacias 1310 second series.

ingo wrote the workbench is my only Romanian made thing in the house


What kind of workbench? Something like that: http://www.bohlfamily.com/images/workbench1.JPG ?

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ingo DE

2012-05-03 20:46

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Oh, not such solid and valuable stuff, just this cheap Link to "webshopcenter24.de" This is enough.

ingo DE

2012-05-04 19:05

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The next Romanian product will appear soon in my family. My brother-in-law has odered a new Dacia Duster.

A propos Dacia: in the 2011-ADAC-breakdown-statistics the Sandero made the 2nd place in the class of the small cars. Behind the MINI. For a backward-orientated car-freak like me, a very extraordinary, in the past unthinkable thought: the most reliable car is British made, followed by a Romanian :wow:

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-05 14:01

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ingo wrote The next Romanian product will appear soon in my family. My brother-in-law has odered a new Dacia Duster.


You must try it and say your opinion. :)

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-05 14:11

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By the way, I have my Dacia Logan 1600 cc from december 2005 and never had problems with it. I can buy a western car, but don't make sense to buy a more expensive car since my Logan is so good. And I don't like modern cars anyway, so I don't care if I drive a Logan or something else. :p

ingo DE

2012-05-05 22:17

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He had a Logan MCV until last year, bought in the age of 6 months. Generally he was satisfied, reliable technic, very cheap garage-prices. Just rust was a problem. In the first months the Dacia-dealer hd repaired it for free in the warranty-time. Very spacious inside, but o.k., you could see by the interior, that it is a cheap car.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 08:28

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ingo wrote Just rust was a problem.


Yes, that was a problem at first Logans. Later, the metal quality was improved. My Logan has no rust, though I always kept it outside, in all seasons (and here, when it snow, it really snow :) ).

ingo wrote you could see by the interior, that it is a cheap car.


May be, I don't contradict you. Though to me all modern cars look the same. :p My uncle's Chevrolet, for instance, don't seems very luxurious in my eyes. But I repet, I'm a little unsensitive regarding modern cars, so I could be wrong.

These are only my opinions, so I may be subjective. I don't try to present Dacia Logan as a better car than it is. Anyway, is good enough for me. I don't need more from a modern daily car. ;)

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Nightrider RU

2012-05-06 08:57

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Andre Malraux wrote

My uncle's Chevrolet, for instance, don't seems very luxurious in my eyes. )


Do you mean Chevrlet, or badge-engineered Daewoo?

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 08:58

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No. A real one.

Nightrider RU

2012-05-06 09:02

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^Caprice?)

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 09:25

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Possible, I'm afraid I don't really know, because it does not really interest me. :whistle: Something modern, dull and boring, anyway. :lol:

Nightrider RU

2012-05-06 09:41

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Well, modern Chevrolets isn't very luxurious by all accounts.)

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 11:45

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@ Ingo

What about Renault Clio or Megane, Fiat I don't know how, Seat Cordoba (I friend of mine has a Cordoba - I think is Cordoba, but I'm not sure :whistle: )... We have a lot of these here. They are not more luxurious than Dacia. Of course, if Dacia would have been a french, italian or spanish car, it would have been more expensive. And her reputation would have been better. ;)

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ingo DE

2012-05-06 15:01

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No idea about these cars, you are mentioning. Noone around me has them.

Sandie SX

2012-05-06 15:14

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The Logan is meant to be a cheap car though. You cannot really expect a luxurious, high quality car for the price you pay. It's a relatively simple car for people who only need a simple car. Besides, in an era of increasing complexity, basic cars with few features are IMO quite refreshing. And it's not like the complexity makes our lives any better. Modern cars may be safer but in most other respects many of the added features don't really add anything to make our lives much better.

And if we are going to slam it for rust, then rust is a problem for many cars. One of the worst offenders being Mercedes a supposed prestige brand. If they have problems with it then we cannot really be too harsh on Dacia for it.

ingo DE

2012-05-06 15:22

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I'm not harsh about Dacia, I fully agree, with your opinion - and the Dacia-customers mainly do that, too. Everyone knows, why it has this price. And for that price it's o.k.

Same goes for other brands, too. The ADAC had made a poll about the owner's contentedness. One of the results was, that the average Lada-owner is more satisfied with his car than many Mercedes-owners, despite a Lada belongs to the unreliable cars. They know end expect it, when they purchase one.
Indeed, Mercedes- and VW-owners aren't often not happy and sometimes disappointed with their cars. The most satisfied car-owners in Germany are the Suzuki-drivers, followed by Subaru and Porsche.

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Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 16:16

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ingo wrote One of the results was, that the average Lada-owner is more satisfied with his car than many Mercedes-owners, despite a Lada belongs to the unreliable cars.


BTW, we imported Fiat 124/125 and Lada 1200/1500. There are well known cars here. And everybody sais Lada is better than Fiat. I know a guy who has Fiat 124 and Fiat 125 (and Fiat 1800) and he thinks Lada is a better car. Though everybody knows that Fiat 124/125 was a great, very reliable car. :)

Two weeks ago, I find out a 1978 dark blue Lada 1500 in very good condition and I took some pictures. In this time, the owner, an old man, came. He said: You want I start it? Sure, I said. The old man: I did not start it from a month. And it started at the second key. :wow: I asked him: you don't want to sell it? I will think about that, he replied. And he added: Will talk again. He also showed me the engine (I have pictures also with that :sun: ). It was like new. The painting was original, from 1978. :whistle: Of course, not like new, but still good for a 1978 painting. I never worked at the engine, it was not necessary, the owner said.

I will try to post the pictures on the forum, but I don't know anything of that. :o

Sandie SX

2012-05-06 16:19

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For posting photos, if they are on your computer sign up for an account with http://photobucket.com/ or http://www.flickr.com/ and upload them there.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 16:23

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ingo wrote No idea about these cars, you are mentioning. Noone around me has them.


Well, the idea was today you find in every car the same ugly grey or black plastic interior, with very few and unimportant differences of style or design...

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-06 16:31

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Sandie wrote For posting photos, if they are on your computer sign up for an account with http://photobucket.com/ or http://www.flickr.com/ and upload them there.


Thanks, but the photos are not yet in my computer, first I must solve that. Than I think I will use photoforum.fr - you obtain a link, you post it on the forum and the photo appears directly on the forum, not as a link. :sun:

Nightrider RU

2012-05-06 16:35

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Andre Malraux wrote

Well, the idea was today you find in every car the same ugly grey or black plastic interior, with very few and unimportant differences of style or design...


They would tell you, that grey and black are most suitable colors. Ergonomics, safety etc etc..

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 00:00

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Sandie wrote It's a relatively simple car for people who only need a simple car.


It is not so simple, you know. All models have alloy wheels, computer, servo brakes, servo (power) steering, air conditioning, driver airbag, radio and CD player. The intermediary model has all that plus front passenger airbag, electric mirrors, electric front windows. Full option model has all that plus rear airbags, ABS breaks, electric rear windows, heated seats, steering wheel and gear shifter "dressed" in leather. All three models have probably some other things, but I'm afraid I don't know much about modern cars technique (neither about classic cars technique, though I know a little more). :o Despite all that, is probably a more simple car than others (that's why is very reliable ;) ), so I DON'T CONTRADICT YOU (on the contrary, I thank you for expressing a favourable opinion about Dacia :p ). What I mean is it's not so simple as someone could believe. :)

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ingo DE

2012-05-07 19:07

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Andre Malraux wrote All models have alloy wheels, computer, servo brakes, servo (power) steering, air conditioning, driver airbag, radio and CD player.

Sorry, but not all. For bargain hunters there is a basic model, without these features (o.k., incl. airbags). The missing AC was the reason, why my brother-in-law has sold his Logan MCV after three years.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 19:10

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You may be right, I have an intermediary model.

AC?

ingo DE

2012-05-07 19:14

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Aircondition

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 19:43

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Well, as I said, I have an intermediary model, so I'm right about that. And also about the full option model, because, back in 2005, I wondered myself if I must buy an intermediary or a full option model. And I checked on internet, to be sure my memory is correct. ;)



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m.pfaffeneder DE

2012-05-07 19:49

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There will be a new Dacia soon.. It´s called the Lodgy. If you buy the Prestige model, it´s very well equipped: Fog lights, 16" alloys, park distance control (only at the back), a new Sat-Nav system with a touchscreen and important for familys: the electronic stability control

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 19:50

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@ Ingo

OK, basic model don't has AC, but what about other things?

I just talked with my brother, who learned to drive on a basic model (a diesel) and he said the basic model has servo breaks and power steering.

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ingo DE

2012-05-07 19:59

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Maybe it had that features, too, I don't know, although once I made a short ride with it across the village. But in any cas it had no comfort-extras. But this is not Dacia-specific, other brands have these versions, too. For example Opel. My wife had owned an Astra G from the Bundeswehr Link to "www.ebay.de" Euphemistic named "Großkundenausführung" = "major customer version" - the pure naked version for authorities and fleets. With ABS, airbags, servo-steering and other safety-features, but without any comfort-accessoire. 250 € were even a bargain price for mounting the radio. Just mounting, excluding the radio itself :/ Because NOTHING for it was included. No speakers, antenna, antenna- and speaker-cables, nothing. It was a f*cking work to mount that stuff.

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Sandie SX

2012-05-07 20:10

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TBH, if people are too tight to buy the more expensive version they shouldn't complain when they find the cheapest one is not well enough equipped for their liking. Quite frankly, it serves them right. Buy a used car or save up a few hundred pounds more for a dearer model.

ingo DE

2012-05-07 20:18

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These hype-naked versions have indeed one advantage, if you want to save money. Due the missing extras -less weight and less electricity-consumption- and thinner tires, they have really a lower fuel consumption. My wife has compared her 1.7 dti-Astra with identical motorized, but better equipped Astras, and noone could beat their Astra's 3.8 liters on 100 km (smooth Autobahn-driving with max.100-120 km/h, no full throttle-orgies, no town-traffic).

If the day will come, when I will be able to purchase my dream-car, the 300 SEL 6.3, I will choose an extra-free model. Not airconditon, no sunroof, no foglights (cW-value!) etc.

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 20:24

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You don't want a W110? I love them. I friend of mine has two. Is my favourite Mercedes model. :love:

ingo DE

2012-05-07 20:28

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W109, not W110 ;) But if, ONLY the 6.3

Andre Malraux RO

2012-05-07 20:31

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ingo wrote W109, not W110


I know, what I mean is I prefer W110. :)

m.pfaffeneder DE

2012-05-07 20:35

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We have got a brand new Ford Focus 1.0 Ecoboost Turnier Titanium at my work. We´ve tested who of my colleagues could drive with the least amount of fuel. It has the new 3-cylinder engine (with turbo) which has 125 hp. The best result were 4.4 liters on 100 km... Not bad for a well equipped and 1500 kg wagon.

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