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Simca F594 WML as Fiat autocarreta

Simca F594 WML in Captain Corelli's Mandolin, Movie, 2001 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: FR

Simca F594 WML as Fiat autocarreta

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

Comments about this vehicle

AuthorMessage

der.krusche AT

2006-04-25 17:54

but I have no idea, what it is.

used for transport and hauling howitzers.

:-))
der krusche

Alexander DE

2006-04-25 22:18

I cannot match it to an Italian truck, but it reminds me of a Spanish truck -- I think Pegaso from the 1950s. But I haven't found any reference for or against this idea.

wrenchhead US

2006-04-26 00:15

The grill reminds me of some of the smaller White Trucks of the late 1940s.

sixcyl FR

2006-04-26 01:15

Maybe a Barreiros, looks a bit like (but just a bit like :D ) Barreiros TT 90.22

Alexander DE

2006-04-30 10:31

2491tj wrote one of around 10 post war Fiat trucks with cabs cut away and rebodied with repro ww2 type open body especially for this film.

Interesting! Have you got any more details about this?

der.krusche AT

2006-05-02 13:01

2491tj wrote one of around 10 post war Fiat trucks with cabs cut away and rebodied with repro ww2 type open body especially for this film.


could this be the base?

[Image: italrigduo3pl.5278.jpg]

both, the cabover and the conventional have the same crest at the grille, as it seems ...

I found it in "Mussolini: Ultimo atto", a movie from 1974:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0071880/

:-))
martin

p.s.:
a clear view on it:

[Image: italrig27tw.1060.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2006-05-02 13:27:13

der.krusche AT

2006-05-03 23:01

could also be something called *autocarretta*:
http://www.dws.xip.pl/bron/wlochy/w146.html

just to find the right marque ...

-- Last edit: 2006-05-03 23:01:53

Alexander DE

2006-05-09 12:24

Found it:
It is a Simca, most likely version F594 like this one:
http://www.armymotorcars.com/html/simca_2.html

sixcyl FR

2006-05-09 12:33

:no: :) sorry Alexander, I'm pretty sure it is not a Simca, and obviously not the F594 which is wider, with very different wings shape, and several lateral beadings

Alexander DE

2006-05-09 12:59

sixcyl wrote :no: :) sorry Alexander, I'm pretty sure it is not a Simca, and obviously not the F594 which is wider, with very different wings shape, and several lateral beadings

If you change the aspect ratio of the image back to normal again, it looks much better:
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

The wings are slightly different, but not a lot. All the other details fit beautifully: entrance step, lights, shape of the front (look at the mould below the windscreen), the windscreen frame itself, the small lid above the grille, etc.
It might be a different, probably slightly older version. So far I have no reference about the Simca numbers.

-- Last edit: 2006-05-09 13:40:17

wickey SK

2006-07-03 20:39

that REALLY looks weird :)

sixcyl FR

2007-01-17 01:29

I swapt the picture with Alexander's one ...

Mr P4 FR

2007-11-12 03:07

Je crois vraiment que c'est un Simca Cargo sacrément modifié pour lui donner un air d'Autocareta.

On apercoit même le treuil Bonnier à l'avant, le restant d'embouti du pare-brise de la cabine fermée, le siège passager, rejet du haut du pare-brise pour la bache, les arceaux ont la forme caractéristique également(et surement plaquage en bois de la caisse par dessus les ridelles en fer), l'aile à recu un ajout arrondi...etc...

2491tj EN

2008-01-29 17:29

It IS a Simca..one of 7 supplied to thwe film by Steve Lamonby in the UK, they converted them to look like WW2 Fiats..and even put V8 Ford Engines in them.they converted them to 4x4 and as well as filming with them, they were so reliable, they were used to tow other vehicles which had got stuck, and they were used by the film crew as scout and tow vehicles.They were all built, with the other vehicles,in 3 months, at Bray Studios in Middlesex in the UK and shipped out to Greece...some came back to the UK..and if you have the "Band Of Brothers" DVD set, look at the last CD,,the studio who built these replicas also built the fake german MkIV tanks for BOB.

-- Last edit: 2008-01-29 17:54:27

2491tj EN

2009-08-26 17:41

Leoz wrote I believe this truck still exists on the island, as I once read in 'Practical Classics' it was built around the time of the movie, so a careful, mocked-up replica then.


at least 2 examples remain on the island as of 2009

column NL

2015-07-12 18:51

Indeed 2491tj,
At least one of these Simca F594 trucks still can be found on Kefalonia. Last summer I spotted this vehicle near a riverside close to the village of Makriotika. It was in a very bad shape (as you can see on the pictures) and definitely has not been used for a long time yet…..
You also can find a picture of this truck on the site of Steve Lamonby (Plusfilm services):

http://www.plusfilm.com/credits.php?c=2001 CAPTAIN CORELLIS MANDOLIN#credits/2001 CAPTAIN CORELLIS MANDOLIN/2 cc.jpg

Below you will find some pictures I made on Kefalonia from this to a “Fiat”converted Simca.

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I also attached the point in Google earth were this Simca can be found:

[Image: simcaf594.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2015-07-12 23:02:43

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