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1955 GM TDH 4512

1955 GM TDH 4512 in A Bronx Tale, Movie, 1993 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: US

1955 GM TDH 4512

Position 00:23:39 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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SteveA EN

2006-04-20 00:30

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GM Old Look

hiergehts CH

2006-04-20 04:41

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Yes and used from mid 1950's onward.

Snookie US

2006-04-20 06:01

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1954 GM TDH 4505, Surface Transportation System.

wickey SK

2006-04-20 13:10

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what is right?? - some buses are listed under GM and some under GMC - someone could check it.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-20 13:11:11

wrenchhead US

2006-04-20 16:14

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wickey wrote what is right?? - some buses are listed under GM and some under GMC - someone could check it.


I agree, it is confusing but I don't think there is an answer because General Motors Corporation uses two logos: http://usautonews.auto123.com/ArtImages/49042/gmc_logo_rothwell.jpg and

I don't know if the actual name is different. For example, here are two 'new look' buses that have different logos.

This one has GMC: http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/montreal-gmc_bus.jpg
This one has GM: http://home.earthlink.net/~bflop/busimg/553gm.jpg


Both logos refer to the same company so perhaps it doesn't matter.

Here is another with the GM logo: http://www.barp.ca/bus/usa/osh.jpg


-- Last edit: 2006-04-20 20:29:59

Sunbar UK

2006-04-20 17:50

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wrenchhead wrote

I agree, it is confusing but I don't think there is an answer because General Motors Corporation uses two logos: http://usautonews.auto123.com/ArtImages/49042/gmc_logo_rothwell.jpg and http://www.mediabuyerplanner.com/images/GM%20Logo.jpg

I don't know if the actual name is different. For example, here are two 'new look' buses that have different logos.

This one has GMC: http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/montreal-gmc_bus.jpg
This one has GM: http://home.earthlink.net/~bflop/busimg/553gm.jpg


Both logos refer to the same company so perhaps it doesn't matter.


I believe the difference between the two logos is the difference between 'GM' (General Motors Corporation blue rectange) is used for all GM brands including the car divisions, whereas 'GMC' is specificallay the GMC Truck and Coach Division. The blue 'GM' logo never included any reference to 'Corporation' in the past and continues as only 'GM' today. The blue logo originated in about 1969 as far as I remember.


'GMC Truck' originated in 1912. The earliest I can find a reference to 'GMC Truck and Coach Division' is 1943, although when the branding on buses became GMC rather than GM I don't know.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-20 17:53:29

wrenchhead US

2006-04-20 19:57

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I agree that GM with the bar under it is the corporate logo. I just thought it was weird that there were some new look buses that use the GM logo; Particularly, when there are others that use the GMC logo.

Snookie US

2006-06-09 00:25

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From 1945 to 1966, The 'GM' logo appeared on buses. From 1967 to 1986, all buses read 'GMC'.

doublea US

2008-01-11 23:25

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Its my bus, GM/GMC its the same company dosn't matter. See our entire fleet of movie trucks and buses under the movie tab at www.doublea.com

PD4104 BE

2009-05-02 12:46

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That's a TDH-4512 (45 feet long, 96 inch wide, 6-71 DD engine, automatic allison VH2 transmission, air suspension). 1957?

sixcyl FR

2009-07-14 21:25

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Snookie US

2009-07-17 18:24

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PD4104 wrote That's a TDH-4512 (45 feet long, 96 inch wide, 6-71 DD engine, automatic allison VH2 transmission, air suspension). 1957?


45 FOOTER? Man, I thought the standard length was 40! Learn something new everyday.

maxp SE

2011-04-01 17:04

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I hesitate about the fleet number .On the back seen very shortly in the beginning of the film is written 1302. 7141 belongs to a GM TDH 5106, but this is indeed a 4512.

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fleetwood75

2011-05-12 02:33

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Snookie Yes, The standard length WAS 40 feet, PD4104 is DEAD WRONG on it being a 45 footer, GM never manufactured any 45 foot transit or intercity buses, However, GM Diesel Division of London, Ontario, Canada did manufacture a 60 foot New Look articulated transit bus in the late '70s & early '80s, But these were mostly used in large Canadian cities like Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto, etc.

fleetwood75

2011-05-12 02:41

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Snookie wrote

45 FOOTER? Man, I thought the standard length was 40! Learn something new everyday.

PD4104 is DEAD WRONG about that bus being a 45 footer, GM never manufactured any 45 foot transit or intercity buses, So what you learned from PD4104 is totally incorrect, I've looked this up and have the facts, However, GM Diesel Division of London, Ontario, Canada did manufacture a 60 foot New Look articulated transit bus in the late '70s and early '80s, But these were mainly used in large Canadian cities like Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto, etc.

Mr. TDM 4512 US

2011-10-05 08:57

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Those of you who said GM TDH 4512 are correct - however, this bus was never Surface Transportation or ex Santa Monica Municipal Bus Line as has been quoted on Flickr.

For your edification; GM's large capacity transit 'Old Look' buses came in three lengths

The 4500's including the 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 10, 11 and 12 models at 35 feet.

The 5100's including the 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 and 06 models at 40 feet.

The 5500's including only the 02 exclusively for Chicago at over 42 feet.

GM Old Look logos; (center of stainless steel wings under windshield); 1946 to late 1951;
Stainless Steel and Porcelain - late 1951 to 1959 larger and encased in plastic.

Regards,

Mr. 'L'

ShortCappy US

2011-11-10 21:31

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It was built in 1955, according to BusTalk.

PD4104 BE

2012-08-15 10:10

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Snookie wrote

45 FOOTER? Man, I thought the standard length was 40! Learn something new everyday.


Sorry, my bad. 35ft that was. The 45 means 45 seats.

PD4104 BE

2012-08-15 10:13

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fleetwood75 wrote
PD4104 is DEAD WRONG about that bus being a 45 footer, GM never manufactured any 45 foot transit or intercity buses, So what you learned from PD4104 is totally incorrect, I've looked this up and have the facts, However, GM Diesel Division of London, Ontario, Canada did manufacture a 60 foot New Look articulated transit bus in the late '70s and early '80s, But these were mainly used in large Canadian cities like Vancouver, Winnipeg, Toronto, etc.


Sorry, typed too fast, 45 was the number of seats. Length was 35 ft. Still not totally incorrect, as the bus IS a TDH4512, is 96" wide, etc. OK?

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