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1971 Volkswagen 1302 [Typ 1]

1971 Volkswagen 1302 [Typ 1] in Octopussy, Movie, 1983 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE

1971 Volkswagen 1302 [Typ 1]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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sixcyl FR

2005-11-19 18:39

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Type 1302

G-MANN UK

2008-10-10 19:03

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Another one:

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Gamer DE

2014-02-14 21:53

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but the 1302 was the worst Beetle ever. It was a gas-guzzler, and it had a terribly upholstered dashboard. I guess that's why it was only built for 2 years. [:spamafote] But it brought two improvements, though: You were now able to fill up your Beetle without opening the trunk, and the 1302 S was the fastest Beetle until then! I'm not saying the Bug is a bad car, on the contrary, it's great. It's just the 1302 that I don't like because it's, well, not that good.

ingo DE

2014-02-14 22:35

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Gamer wrote Maybe I'm mistaken, but the 1302 was the worst Beetle ever. It was a gas-guzzler, and it had a terribly upholstered dashboard. I guess that's why it was only built for 2 years. [:spamafote] But it brought two improvements, though: You were now able to fill up your Beetle without opening the trunk, and the 1302 S was the fastest Beetle until then! I'm not saying the Bug is a bad car, on the contrary, it's great. It's just the 1302 that I don't like because it's, well, not that good.


No, the tank-lid outside came earlier, for the MY 1968. From 1969 onwards it was openable from the inside, with a bowden-cable in the glovebox (the -idiotic constructed- rubber-handle was used for the front bonnet-cable of the 1973+ K 70). And the 1302 had not an upholsteres dashboard, just a few plastic applications on the old dashboard. The 1303 had the new plastic dashboard (which disappeared with the 1303 again).

But the rest is correct. So much effort of developing - and the decades-old Beetle stayed an overaged clunker anyways. The 1302 was not only thirsty, it was also lame and unsafe (the McPherson-front axle helped a bit, but not much). In the mid-90ies I had a http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSU_1200 as all-day-car - which was in every topic much better than the VW 1302 (a flirt of mine had a 1302, so I could compare both cars en detail). The NSU had the same ccm and approx hp, but was faster, less noisy (but only in not-tuned condition. Normally this is the slogan of the NSU-freaks: http://www.nsu-autoteile.de/product_info.php?info=p1218_aufkleber-nsu.html :D ), had a modester thirst, was -although smaller measures- spacier inside, had a bigger trunk - and was a bigger eye-catcher on the streets.
Back then I thought, that everyone, who drove a NSU Prinz, would never get the idea to change the car to a Beetle.

Once a friend, who repaired my 32B-Passat, gave me one of the ultimate-dream-Beetles (for many Typ1-freaks), a http://www.gelb-schwarzer-renner.com/ as a replacement vehicle for two days. It was in deep wintertimes - and really terrible! It was fucking cold inside (although it had the best heating/ventilation-system of all Beetles), you freezes your ass off plus iced windows -inside!!-, noisy and uncomfortable. Just the high, but small tires were a a bit helpful on snow and ice.

But you know, what the most irritating, even annoying fact is? The price. All the times, back in the 70ies, sustained until today, a 1302 is more expensive than a NSU 1200 and even a -three classes higher positioned- K 70! :mad:
I own a bunch of motor magazines of the early 70ies. Especially the German mags, most extremely the "Gute Fahrt", made an incedrible hype about the 1302, more than about the K 70, which was released at the swame time. This was something totally new, for VW back then a high tech-revolution. But the mind of all VW-related people back then was so retarded, that many ignore that. Annother reason was, that the K 70 was a step-child, even a foundling and not an own "child".

tore-40 NO

2014-02-14 22:52

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The recent criticism aside, it's a 1972 (parcel shelf visible)
Edit: In /vehicle_428120-BMW-3-E21-1975.html you can see the 1971 vents [Image: embarrassed-smiley07.gif]

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ingo DE

2014-02-14 23:02

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tore-40 wrote The recent criticism aside, it's a 1972 (parcel shelf visible)

What's up with it, were there differences?

It also has two different and both not original hubcaps. @tore-40: was there a MY, which ahd this version on the front wheel originally or was it just aftersales market? The hubcap on the back wheel looks more like BMW 02-ish, the rounding looks not original.

If this scene shall be set in Germany, there is annother goof: the beer bottle on the table is not a German one.

tore-40 NO

2014-02-14 23:16

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The rear hub cap seems original? The front one is too old, it seems, as they would be interchangeable?

ingo DE

2014-02-14 23:26

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no, the front hubcap has the 1968+ size, but the middle with the VW-logo is protuding. :think. Hmm, it may be the 1966-only-version?...
About the back hubcap I'm not really sure, it was just a a vague impression. And I think now, that BMW-hubcaps doesn't fit on VW-rims.

tore-40 NO

2014-02-14 23:39

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Yes a 1966

BTW, the bottle is rather a wine bottle (Blue Nun?) [Image: drinking-smiley10.gif]

ingo DE

2014-02-15 14:59

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hmm, not sure about the bottle... but the glass beside is a beer-glass!

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tore-40 NO

2014-04-02 12:15

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ingo wrote
What's up with it, were there differences?


Parcel shelf - or rather cover - from 1972.

ingo DE

2014-04-02 13:58

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What cover do you mean exactly, from the little trunk behind the back seats?

tore-40 NO

2014-04-02 18:10

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Yes. Checking again it says '1300 only' so not sure if a 1302 would have it anyway. Later models did.

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ingo DE

2014-04-02 21:40

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Ah, you mean the foldable backrest. Didn't know, that later Typ 1 had them. My father's first car, a 1300 from 8/1967, didn't. It had a hatrack-panel with an openable lid. But this was an extra option - which he never had used. It stood always in our cellar. I've seen it for the first time, when he gave the car away for free in April 1978 after purchasing a 8/1973 Passat LS.

tore-40 NO

2014-04-02 22:26

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Still off-topic- sorry, antp- well I didn't know they had the shelf before 1972. Foldable backrets were simpler for the early ones but the later ones had a proper locking mechanism and a strap to hold it down.

ingo DE

2014-04-02 22:31

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tore-40 wrote Still off-topic-

No, it isn't. It goes around the specific model.

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