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1975 Jaguar XJ-C [Series II]

1975 Jaguar XJ-C [Series II] in Same Time, Next Year, Movie, 1978 IMDB

Class: Cars, Coupé — Model origin: UK — Made for: USA

1975 Jaguar XJ-C [Series II]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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vilero ES

2009-12-11 13:10

tv boy wrote [Image: same19.5786.jpg]

fuchs PL

2009-12-11 13:41

XJ-C

rjluna2 US

2009-12-11 13:41

USA spec.

tv boy US

2009-12-11 14:46

Interesting in that this scene takes place in 1972, so this would be an anachronism.

CougarTim US

2009-12-11 17:36

The pale yellow coupe partially obscured by vegetation in the left background is a 1967-1968 Mercury Cougar.

mister car from 971

2009-12-12 02:17

It's the only 70's car featured in the whole movie!!!!

jettalover US

2009-12-12 02:49

So, the XJ-S replaced the XJ-C?

wickey SK

2009-12-13 13:00

very very nice :) I just love this jag

me like-e :whistle:

ShantJ US

2010-07-10 22:04

jettalover wrote So, the XJ-S replaced the XJ-C?


Not quite. The XJ-S replaced the E-Type, and competed with the M-B SL.

CougarTim US

2010-07-11 00:47

I don't think the XJ-C ever had a direct replacement.

cl82 DE

2010-07-11 00:58

Correct. The XJ-S was the replacement for the E-Type aka XK-E and went into production in 1975(as well). Still, they share the same platform, and I once read that production of the XJ-C was stopped in late 1977 order to increase demand for the then quite unpopular XJ-S. What a pity, because I've always considered the XJ-C's design as more beautiful.

dsl SX

2010-07-11 01:02

Do we want to go down the road of whether it's an XJ6-C or an XJ12-C? Both were made but I don't know which were sold in US.

cl82 DE

2010-07-11 01:06

:lol: Why not? By the way, were the two Daimler-versions also sold in the USA?

dsl SX

2010-07-11 01:13

No idea about the Daimlers in US. The XJ-C was a rushed production job - removing the B-pillars weakened the structure substantially, and the roof pressing had an awkward join (which is why they all had vinyl roofs to hide the mess. This usually started to rust under the covering due to trapped moisture unless protective action taken). Ceasing production in 1977 reflected these problems - the XJ-S story was a bit of a smokescreen.

night cub US

2010-07-11 01:21

Yes, both the 6 and 12 were sold in the US. No, Daimler badged versions were not. I believe the last Daimler sold here was the SP250 roadster.

dsl SX

2010-07-11 01:32

In that case I'd guess this is an XJ6-C because I can't imagine the XJ12-C being offered in such a dreary matt colour.

cl82 DE

2010-07-11 01:52

@Dsl: Yes, I knew about the structural problems which caused a production-delay of two years. I don't want to know how much money it cost British Leyland to fix that issue. Besides, I've read that the missing B-pillars resulted in awful wind-noises. Nevertheless, I've seen not much more than maybe half a dozen XJ-Cs on the road in my live, and each time this happened I thought that it is still one of the most beautiful Jaguars despite all its issues.

dsl SX

2010-07-11 02:11

@cl82. I agree about the looks, especially in comparison to the brutal and charmless XJ-S. I always wondered what an XJ-C would look like with Pininfarina's S3 XJ saloon styling changes.

Sunbar UK

2010-07-11 11:01

cl82 wrote @Dsl:... I've read that the missing B-pillars resulted in awful wind-noises...


It was not simply the fact that there was no 'B' pillar that was the problem. It was that that the glasses were frameless without any support in the body. The rear quarter glasses sealed reasonably well but the doors would not. The door glasses were large and the glass thickness 5mm whereas the saloon's smaller glasses were only 4mm. A big increase in weight, that was on the limit for the electric door motors (even when up-rated) so the final sealing when closed was poor and inconsisent. Up-rating the motors caused them safety problems with finger/head trapping. (They had already had issues with child deaths reported on the saloon in the USA). Jaguar tried a few fixes involving limit switches that dropped or raised the glasses into the seal but they finally gave up in the end.

dsl SX

2010-07-11 13:10

Wikipedia adds a couple of points about the doors being expensive to produce as individually reskinned and lengthened saloon doors rather than new pressings, and body flex (with all this added weight and loss of rigidity in the centre?) causing the paint to break adhesion and lift off. Also more generally, Jaguar were moving all saloon XJs on to the LWB platform and the SWB version used for the XJ-C was therefore increasingly isolated within the main production emphasis, and accountants always pounce on this sort of anomaly.

Sunbar UK

2010-07-11 14:28

Its true that the inner door pressings used modified saloon sections with additional shorter pressings welded in but this was no different from the practice used to manufacture the long wheelbase rear doors for the saloon (mark I and early mark II) before the short wheelbase XJ6 was eliminated. The cost of new larger pressings would not be ecconomic for the small volumes. Most of the extra weight was as a result of the large glass and the complex frame and cable guidance system inside the door. Many of the floor pressings for the short wheelbase would continue on in the XJS.

I believe Jaguar decided to drop the XJ-C because of the quality problems inherant in the coupe. These were out of proportion to the number of coupes being made and were not getting resolved. Jaguar's main efforts had to be concentrated on in getting the series III saloon right.

ShantJ US

2010-07-13 08:34

I wonder what a modern XJ-C would be like. The M-B CL could use some company.

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