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◊ 2006-03-15 23:17 |
![[Image: xx5front1hd.1310.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is126/xx5front1hd.1310.jpg) |
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◊ 2006-03-15 23:31 |
must be Renault |
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◊ 2006-03-15 23:48 |
Looks like, but didn't find what type... the grill on the bonnet and cart-wheels doesn't match with the Renault of that period... and if it was not Renault in fact?  -- Last edit: 2006-03-15 23:48:55 |
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◊ 2006-03-16 00:30 |
There was another make that had a similar bonnet but I can't remember - will have to think awhile. [edit] Might have been De Dion or Clement-Bayard that had similar bonnet. -- Last edit: 2006-03-16 00:33:44 |
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◊ 2006-03-16 00:33 |
De Dion-Bouton ? But that was for much older vehicles. |
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◊ 2006-03-16 09:25 |
Yes there were other manufacturers with that similar bonnet and radiator configuration but they were much, much rarer. Clement-Bayard and Theophile-Schneider had this style but they are older cars. |
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◊ 2006-03-16 17:19 |
I don't think this is a Renault - grill is wrong. |
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◊ 2006-03-16 20:01 |
I just remembered that some of the small Mack trucks of about 1927-1930 had a similar bonnet. Does anyone have a truck reference to check? |
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◊ 2006-03-17 10:36 |
It may be an early twenties ( ca 1920-24) american air cooled Franklin 9-B converted into a small truck.Franklins of this period had Renault-like bonnets with a grille pattern and spoke-wheels.It would be interesting to know where these shots were made but even if it is in France it is possible because Franklins were distributed in France |
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◊ 2006-03-20 18:14 |
The Franklins that I could find seem to have a bonnet that has a round top and not flat like this one. See: http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/classicos/franklin-10c-1925.jpg |
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◊ 2006-03-21 10:51 |
Yes , you are right ,but the one you are showing is a more recent 1925 Franklin that had already the round bonnet and oval type grille .I am refering to the type 9B which I agree may be older than I thought.Model 9's have been produced during ww I up till ca 1920.They had a Renault-like bonnet with a fake ( always , since they were air-cooled) radiator grille .Another characteristic I find back on this picture is the pronounced ridge on the upper inner curvature of the front fenders that looks typically Franklin.On the other hand the cowls of the pictured cars I have seen were shorter and more sloping and the upper part of the grille rounder than on this one. If one looks at the picture it may also be possible that this car has a water radiator behind the engine because a water cap may be present on the cowl ( hardly visible) and this would exclude it as a Franklin .Seems also that the pictures were taken in the US.Concerning the Mack bulldog shovel nose trucks , these were much heavier vehicles. So to me this still remains a mystery demanding further research. |
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◊ 2006-04-23 17:55 |
Ne estas Renault,prefere usona.. . Ce n'est pas une Renault, plutot une américaine... |
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◊ 2006-04-23 18:06 |
Arrol-Johnston?? |
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◊ 2006-10-10 14:53 |
After all the reasearch I did on this, I also believe it is an Arrol-Johnston. My (meanwhile very educated) guess is that it is based on a 1919 onwards Arrol-Johnston Victory (sic) that got converted from limousine to lorry somewhen during it's life. |
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◊ 2006-10-10 18:04 |
Nice to finally put a name on that one. Thanks .gif ";)") -- Last edit: 2006-10-10 18:04:26 |
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