Class: Cars, Coupé — Model origin: — Made for:
Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2006-03-14 19:35 |
328GTS ? |
◊ 2006-03-14 20:00 |
I agree. |
◊ 2006-03-14 20:06 |
The black middle section of the top was removable - do we call them semi-vertibles? ![]() |
◊ 2006-03-14 20:14 |
It is usually called "Targa" I guess? Long time ago we decided to merge Targa and Convertible categories. |
◊ 2006-03-14 20:25 |
This should then be classed as convertible rather than coupe? |
◊ 2006-03-14 20:28 |
I guess that yes, like for cars with removable hardtop ... |
◊ 2006-03-23 10:26 |
The red car in the left looks like a Corvette Stingray Custom... |
◊ 2006-03-23 10:34 |
I guess it's a Firebird, not a Corvette. And the Ferrari from the picture is a 308 GTS(i), not a 328 GTS. -- Last edit: 2006-03-23 10:47:01 |
◊ 2006-03-23 10:57 |
Then how would you make the distinction between these removable glass top 'convertibles' and real convertibles, when both options were available for the same car, such as the 68-75 Corvette, Porsche 911, etc.? I mean, only the Porsche is actually a real 'Targa', this being a registered trademark of the company. The term 'Targa' has incorrectly been made generic for all cars with a similar roof setup, just like 'Jeep' became sort of generic for all 4-wheel-drive cars. It is still wrong. As for the Corvettes, the ones with the removable glass halves are still considered coupes, as opposed to the true roadsters available alongside. |
◊ 2006-03-23 11:09 |
And what about "coupé cabrio" like Mercedes SLK or Peugeot 206 CC? Do we really need to put them in separate categories? I do not think it is useful (and previously we had categories for that, and they were merged) |
◊ 2006-03-23 11:20 |
"Coupé Cabrio" could be the solution for the 308/328 GTS, Corvette T-Top, 911 Targa etc., as for the more modern 206/307 CC, Mercedes SLK etc., and for for the mid fifties "2-door hardtop convertible" from the US, also called "Coupé Convertible". I would choose the name "Coupé Convertible" for this category of cars, for the whole panel of cars (and similar ones) I mentioned above, which possibly deserve their own specifc category. But this remains my own opinion ![]() -- Last edit: 2006-03-23 11:25:55 |
◊ 2006-03-23 12:45 |
But take a look at the Corvette in the movie "Corvette summer". It`s pretty close. |
◊ 2006-03-23 13:37 |
Je crois l'avoir déjà écrit quelque part, alors tant pis, je me répète: Cette catégorie n'a pas lieu d'être. Le coupé-cabriolet(convertible) est une invention des services marketing des constructeurs. Ca permet de vendre des coupés l'hiver et des cabriolets l'été. ![]() Pour moi, il n'existe que, des coupés, deux portes avec un toit en dur INAMOVIBLE, et des cabriolets, deux portes avec capote et accessoirement un hard-top AMOVIBLE. ![]() Ce n'est que mon humble avis, mais je ne demande qu'à le partager avec d'autres. ![]() -- Last edit: 2006-03-23 13:41:21 |
◊ 2006-03-23 15:37 |
Are you referring to the 57-59 Ford Skyliner Retractable Hardtop? That one must be considered to be unique, but strictly spoken, it is a convertible after all. As for "Coupe Convertible" (which I never read or heard of), many US manufacturers called their convertibles 'Convertible Coupe', as opposed to the long running (in the US)'Convertible Sedan' with four doors (the latter being called 'Touring Car' or 'Phaeton' in Europe). The moniker 'Convertible Coupe' survived into the 70s in the USA, Cadillac sales literature calls convertibles just that until the bitter end in '76. A hardtop in Europe is usually a top made of metal or plastic that can be put onto a convertible or roadster for winter driving and replaces the soft top during that period. A hardtop in the USA is a body style designation. It denotes a saloon car or wagon (number of doors not relevant) with a permanently fixed roof, unless you hacksaw it off. It is characterized by having no door window frames and the b-pillar ends at the beltline, thus giving an unobstructed side opening when the windows are lowered. The American 'hardtop coupe' is thus, in fact, a 2-door saloon without b-pillars. -- Last edit: 2006-03-23 15:57:00 |
◊ 2006-03-23 22:16 |
Please, no more categories for cars. If the roof comes off, call it a convertible and get on with it. It simply means that you can 'convert' it from a closed car to an open car. |
◊ 2006-03-31 05:44 |
Hey, There was a 308 in the first Cannonball run movie! |
◊ 2007-02-12 18:46 |
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