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MOZINOR ◊ 02-09-2004 à 18:16	Plymouth Fury 1958 - Carpenter a bien choisi son heroine , a la fois seduisante et inquietante .. cette page devrais logiquement etre une des plus visitées > qui ne s'est pas posé la question un jour : " c'est quoi cette caisse dans christine ? "
raph ◊ 21-09-2004 à 22:38	c clair! :jap:
IMCDb ◊ 01-10-2004 à 15:21	J'installerais un compteur page par page un jour... mais bon, installer 6000 compteurs, ca va finir par faire beaucoup
Coyote63000 ◊ 16-12-2004 à 18:04	Dans le roman dont ce film a été tiré,la voiture était bien une Fury '58,mais c'était un modele 4 portes.Je trouve que la 2 portes est un meilleur choix pour le film.Elle a un look plus agressif.
antp ◊ 16-12-2004 à 22:19	Ils ont pris un modèle deux portes parce que le modèle quatre portes de 58 n'a jamais existé
Coyote63000 ◊ 17-12-2004 à 14:50	C'était donc ça!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ce qui veut dire que,pour une fois,Stephen King s'est mal renseigné avant d'ecrire son roman.
Aldo ◊ 08-02-2005 à 17:45	In terms of trim and color it's actually more likely a Belvedere than a Fury, regardless of what the script says. I HAVE ONE!!!
phil64 ◊ 07-05-2005 à 22:58	C'est effectivement une Belvedere et pas une Fury !! Néanmoins c'était nettement plus évocateur de parler d'une "fury" que d'une Belvedere .. Les Fury sont toutes "bucksin beige", ont des inserts latéraux anodisés or (aonsi que la calandre). les Belvedere avaient aussi des inserts mais anodisés "silver" avec l'option "sportone". Dans le bouquin, c'est une Plymouth 58 berline, je me rappelle nullement que King citait un modèle comme Fury, Belvedere, Savoy ou Plaza ..
antp ◊ 08-05-2005 à 01:08	Sur IMDB : Christine was said to be a 1958 Plymouth Fury, which had similar panels and trim to the 1957 model. When the Fury name was introduced, it was essentially a sport and trim package on the Belvedere - notably two doors, gold anodized trim, gold grille, and dual four-barrel carburetors. Christine, as shown in the movie, could have been any two door Belvedere with a 318 or 350 engine. Although over 5300 Furys - and far more Belvederes - were built in 1958, they have since become very rare and are now collector's items. There were 13 or 16 (depending on source) Belvederes/Furys smashed in the making of the movie (out of the roughly 25 used during filming), but it is unknown whether they were 1957 or 1958 models, or a combination. In any event, Plymouth enthusiasts were infuriated, though the movie popularized the car and probably saved many of them - just like what Back To The Future did for the Delorean. In the original Stephen King book, the car had 4 doors, but this was changed to a 2-door model when it was realized that there never was a 4-door 1958 Plymouth Fury. Although all 1958 Plymouth Furys had Buckskin Beige exterior paint and gold anodized aluminum side trim & grille, the book mentions that this particular car was custom ordered in Ford red.
Jaqob ◊ 2005-12-29 14:56	It's a beautifal car,
explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-03-23 21:56	Look at Christine's grill. The grill extends below the chrome bumper. Now, during football game and when Christine is being run over by Dennis in the CAT, their is no grill below the bumper, just a red extension and a license plate.
explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-04-26 03:23	Actually, Christine is a 1958 Plymouth Fury Custom/Sport Fury
qwerty_86 ◊ 2006-04-27 07:06	It was just "Fury" in 1958. Quote The Fury was a Belvedere sub-series containing only the special high-performance sport coupe. - Standard Catalog of Chrysler 1914-2000 And nevermind what's shown in the movie. They used different '57 and '58 Belvederes and Furys for the movie, but it's indicated as a '58 Fury in both the movie and book. "Bought her back in September of 1957. . . . Brand new, she was. Had the smell of a brand-new car, and that's about the finest smell in the world."
Norrloader ◊ 2006-05-10 17:02	Everyone sais its a fury -58. Im about to buy an real "Christine", and came to the conclusion: She is an Belvedere (at least if you take this car's pic) The front tells you that, same to the side decor. The emblem on the hood isnt on the Fury. The fury´s goes in a more straight line, the Belvedere's sidechrome is like "an arrow" The fuellid doesnt brake the dekor on the side, wich it does on the fury... << correct me if im wrong, i dont wanna buy the wrong car... >>
qwerty_86 ◊ 2006-05-11 08:36	Well, the "real" Christine is a '58 Fury 4-door according to the book, but there was no 4-door Fury in '57 or '58. The car on the back cover of the book is a '57 Plymouth, but it only shows the front so I can't tell if it's a four-door or two-door. -- Last edit: 2006-05-11 08:39:22
explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-05-11 08:42	And, in the movie, Christine is a 1958 Plymouth Fury coupe. And, technically, Christine is either a)A 1958 Plymouth Sport Fury Custom/Plymouth Fury Custom b) Another car completely like a Plymouth Plaza, Belvedere or Savoy or c) a 1958 Plymouth Belvedere. I would go with a Belvedere, although Christine is meant to be a Fury, she seems and looks more like a Belvedere. King should have done more research on the Fury.
explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-05-11 08:44	Oh, and I just ordered the Special Edition Christine on DVD with an interview with directer John Carpenter and actor Keith Gordon. It also has 20 alternate/deleted scenes, with that and the interviews hopefully will give us some answeres on Christine. I will also post some more pictures here of Christine and the other cars.
qwerty_86 ◊ 2006-05-11 09:01	explorer4x4 wrote And, in the movie, Christine is a 1958 Plymouth Fury coupe. And, technically, Christine is either a)A 1958 Plymouth Sport Fury Custom/Plymouth Fury Custom b) Another car completely like a Plymouth Plaza, Belvedere or Savoy or c) a 1958 Plymouth Belvedere. I would go with a Belvedere, although Christine is meant to be a Fury, she seems and looks more like a Belvedere. King should have done more research on the Fury. Christine was a magic car so it could break certain rules. There was a part in the book where a bunch of guys lifted up the back end of the Fury to play a joke on LeBay so he couldn't drive away, but the car took off as if it was FWD. Maybe Carpenter should have used a four-door Belvedere for the movie instead.
norrloader ◊ 2006-05-14 22:13	I hope that the special ed sort it out well, it should be pretty cool to make a bookclone.. throw away a little steel and install 4 doors an a 57...
BeanBandit ◊ 2006-05-14 22:39	I think '59 Chevrolet would have been better choice as Christine by King, it looks far more demonic, especially from the rear.
qwerty_86 ◊ 2006-05-15 06:23	Yeah, but it doesn't sound the part. "Fury" just sounds meaner than "Chevy." And just thinking about it, you can kinda visualize the car looking more demonic than it is just by naming it a Fury.
Explorer4X4 ◊ 2006-05-15 08:16	BeanBandit wrote I think '59 Chevrolet would have been better choice as Christine by King, it looks far more demonic, especially from the rear. I don't know, the Fury seemed the best and only choice for a car. 59' Chevy's seemed a little to futuristic for a killer car. It also looked pretty creepy, especially when the first time you ever watched it was when you were 5 years old. I thought that, an ideal murdering, creepy looking and sounding car would be some old 50's relic with fins, a large front bumper and duel headlights, and the Fury fit right into the slot, complete with a strong, loud engine and a "V" on the wood that kind of finished the masterpeice. And qwerty was right about "Fury" sounding betetr then Bel Air (makes you think up-class luxury), Biscayne (to me it sounds like an exotic bird), Impala (it is a deer like animal, oooo, creepy) or Malibu (Grand Theft Auto Vice City dance club). And I just realized that "qwerty" was the first six letters on the upper left corner of the letter area on a computer keyboard! P.S. The Christine DVD has not come yet..... Late I suppose, I am homping it'll come before my family and I drive back from Alaska to Connecticut in our 86' MCI MC-9.
wickey ◊ 2006-05-15 09:49	Explorer4X4 wrote And I just realized that "qwerty" was the first six letters on the upper left corner of the letter area on a computer keyboard!
qwerty_86 ◊ 2006-05-15 21:41	Yep, that's where my name came from.
Explorer4X4 ◊ 2006-05-15 21:51	ya, I always wondered why your nickname was "qwerty", pretty cool idea!
Carfan ◊ 2006-06-09 22:06	Me likey, Me wanty. just being funny, this really is a beautiful car. I remember reading a website saying that There should be a second Christine movie even though Stephen King never wrote a "Christine II" story or something. I agree with them, what does any one else think? After all, christine was crushed into a block at the end of this movie and and just before the credits, 'she' slowly started to fix 'her' front grill.
Explorer4X4 ◊ 2006-06-16 16:34	In the movie they disguise two Plymouth Belvederes and a Savoy. I know the Savoy was used when Darnell is killed. They said in the commentary they used parts from the Fury to disguise their Belvederes and Savoy.
antp ◊ 2006-06-20 23:31	Picture sent by Explorer4X4, another Plymouth:
Explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-06-21 01:50	The grill section under the bumper on Christine constantly changes from chrome, to painted to just a filled in peice of metal. Most notably is, just after Arnie discovers that Buddy and his gang trashed Christine it is a chrome grill and when Christine is fixing herself, it is a red painted grill.
Kenster102.5 ◊ 2006-09-23 00:48	I think a caddy would suit it
knghtmat ◊ 2006-09-27 21:10	Explorer4x4 wrote The grill section under the bumper on Christine constantly changes from chrome, to painted to just a filled in peice of metal. Most notably is, just after Arnie discovers that Buddy and his gang trashed Christine it is a chrome grill and when Christine is fixing herself, it is a red painted grill. The lower grille is painted on all 58 Plymouths. the car in those scenes are just missing the metal strips that go over that.
furyman85 ◊ 2006-10-13 05:57	I love this movie I watch it almost everyday. I own 4 copys of it special edition, 2 widescreen,an vhs. I also have the book all of the errors in the book are because stephen king started writing the book in the middle before he decided christine was going to be a fury. When he first started writing christine she was going to be a belair.
DeLorean ◊ 2006-10-13 16:52	Chistine was one of the best movies made, and is always!!! That car i want in my garage!!!
DeLorean ◊ 2006-10-13 17:00
DeLorean ◊ 2006-10-15 17:09	I Want a second Christine-movie!! It would be very succesfully!!!!
modell ◊ 2006-10-25 07:21	I love that scene in the main pic when "Bad to the Bone" is playing. Cool songs, cool car, cool movie!
modell ◊ 2006-10-26 18:32	I think this would be a good Christine- http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/dodge1.jpg Certainly has that mean look!
stpaulcarguy ◊ 2006-10-30 04:34	i sure hope the one they crushed with the cat was a kit
DeLorean ◊ 2006-11-07 18:21	A "Christine: The revenge" has to be with the same christine(plymouth fury '57) because at the last scene of the movie she stil moves!!! She isn't gone!!!!
DeLorean ◊ 2006-11-08 21:11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRZ8Pqq31vY
modell ◊ 2006-11-12 05:56	DeLorean wrote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRZ8Pqq31vY I was the one that posted that.
DeLorean ◊ 2006-11-23 15:08	Oh no, i posted the link to youtube YOu can find there some clips about the movie.
moparguy1973 ◊ 2006-12-30 08:32	"Christine" would almost have to be a Belvedere. 1958 Furys were not available in red, they didn't have red interiors, and most telling of all: Furys had Gold anodized aluminum side trim, and the Belvedere has shiny silver aluminum side trim. Otherwise they look damn near identical. Christine has the silver trim. Belvederes were available in red with red interiors. And the dual quad "Poly 318" motor they show in the movie was available in either car, but the 270 and the 301 look the same as a 318 anyway...
modell ◊ 2007-01-14 03:20	moparguy1973 wrote "Christine" would almost have to be a Belvedere. 1958 Furys were not available in red, they didn't have red interiors, and most telling of all: Furys had Gold anodized aluminum side trim, and the Belvedere has shiny silver aluminum side trim. Otherwise they look damn near identical. Christine has the silver trim. Belvederes were available in red with red interiors. And the dual quad "Poly 318" motor they show in the movie was available in either car, but the 270 and the 301 look the same as a 318 anyway... However, in the book, Roland LeBay had ordered special options and/or custom features when he first purchased the car, including its red interior and two-tone red & white paint job. (The exact color is said to be "Autumn Red.")
DeLorean ◊ 2007-02-03 22:46	If i have the chance to buy a Plymouth '58 or '57. I don't need to think about that first
knghtmat ◊ 2007-02-07 03:56	The Moochie chaser Christine.
Adrian ◊ 2007-02-08 22:14	Since I love this movie, and the car, and know most of you do too, I found a video-link of one of the original Plymouths used in the movie. Pretty cool considering this car is one of the survivors, now 24 years later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biblXiWsYOs
knghtmat ◊ 2007-02-13 19:27	I have seen the vid before and if you are a really big fan of Christine there is the Christine Car Club www.christinecarclub.com
nubby ◊ 2007-05-07 22:31	Christine is not a Fury. It and it's stunt cars were played by Plymouth Belvederes and Savoys. It's official color is Autumn Red -- Last edit: 2007-05-15 04:48:39
antp ◊ 2007-05-08 00:01	Indeed maybe we should list it as a Belvedere, since it is what was used...
nubby ◊ 2007-05-15 04:52	Why did they have to wreck so many of these cars? These cars will never come back! This is why I don't like to go to demo derbies!
Settpistol ◊ 2007-06-13 02:32	The '58 was pretty cool,but i've always thought the '59 had a much,much meaner grille.
knghtmat ◊ 2007-06-19 07:55	Well you can look at it this way, there are more 57/58's today with the movie than there would have been without it. It's color is indeed in the book and the movies deleted scene autumn red but in real life the cars were painted GM spectra red.
crazyforcars12 ◊ 2007-08-26 12:57	I'm sure it was a Fury, was the Belvedere available as a coupe?
Wampa-One ◊ 2007-11-13 03:22
truck man ◊ 2007-11-16 02:06	This car is not part of the movie,it is the move,32 stars...
Leoz ◊ 2008-02-15 14:35	Everyone said it was a Fury. This is one nice car though, I felt all cold when the Bullys broke in, smashed it up and crapped on the dashboard!
durango95 ◊ 2008-02-19 23:56	SOOO... in the book its a Fury but they changed the car for the movie? i think John Carpenter should have left it a Fury, it wouldve been a much better car for the movie
58Roadmaster ◊ 2008-02-20 00:00	Yes, but, cinematically, "buckskin beige" doesn't appear as menacing! This was Plymouth's only available color for 1958 Fury; 1957 was even worse: "eggshell white!"
Leoz ◊ 2008-02-20 20:31	In Quention Wilson's book 'Cars: a celebration' he wrote that it was a '58 Plymouth Fury used in this film.By my opinion, there is not much differance between a Belvedere and a Fury.
Leoz ◊ 2008-02-28 20:27	A beautiful car! -- Last edit: 2008-03-31 21:53:07
Charger_69 ◊ 2008-03-11 21:59	Christine was a '58 Fury
Leoz ◊ 2008-03-11 22:19	Yes, but was first built in September '57.
Bricklin1990 ◊ 2008-03-18 03:06	antp wrote Christine, as shown in the movie, could have been any two door Belvedere with a 318 or 350 engine. I don't think the 318 V8 came out until 1967..... -- Last edit: 2008-03-18 11:18:42 (antp)
antp ◊ 2008-03-18 11:20	(no need to quote the whole message - I removed the useless parts) This was just copied from IMDB. Wikipedia article about the Belvedere mentions that the 318 V8 was added in 1957 and was available on all Plymouth. -- Last edit: 2008-03-18 11:20:35
classicarfreak ◊ 2008-06-18 00:55	Although this is said to be a Plymouth Belvedere, it is actually a 1957 Plymouth Fury introduced for the 1958 model year. If You've seen the movie, you know all too well that Christine (the car) is a well disguised killer and has the ability to regenerate herself. The red and white paint scheme was custom, and so was the grille. -- Last edit: 2008-08-30 03:26:01
58Roadmaster ◊ 2008-06-18 03:56	Interesting quandry, and I know the reason for debate regarding Christine and IMCDb: 1) Very famous car/film/character 2) Several Plymouths used for various scenes (Plaza, Savoy, Belvedere) 3) One vehicle page for the site IMCDb seeks to label actual cars used on film in a motion picture (and included in animated films). How does the site account for Plymouth models other than Furys? Members of IMCDb should obtain empirical evidence that ay least one Fury was filmed in a scene that can be found in the final studio release. Talk to the prop master ask about studio records. Somebody knows! -- Last edit: 2008-06-18 03:57:31
Leoz ◊ 2008-06-19 18:44	I see what you mean. Yet, it is the same with the General Lee Dodge Charger from The Dukes of Hazzard series. Even though it was really a '69, many '68 and '70 Chargers were also used and sadly...wrecked. However, this is a picture of a Belvedere, as there is no golden trim or badge on the front wing so it is not a Fury. -- Last edit: 2008-06-19 18:45:07
Skid ◊ 2008-09-24 22:13	Bricklin1990 wrote I don't think the 318 V8 came out until 1967..... Chrysler actually made two separate 318 V8s over the years. The original "A" series 318 V8 was introduced in 1957 and made until 1967. The "LA" series 318 was introduced in 1967, and was based on similar architecture, with the same 3.31 stroke and a 3.91 bore. The "A" and "LA" series 318s look simililar from the outside and have the same basic cylinder block design, but the old "A" series had much larger, "polysphere" heads, and a heavier cast block (55 pounds havier than the later "LA" blocks). Produced through 2002, the "LA" series 318 is the engine that most people think of when you say "Chrysler 318."
tony ◊ 2008-10-02 03:30	The book was not written by a car guy. thats why He says it had four doors. and that it was red. He probably liked the way "Fury" sounded. then it was now up to the movie makers to bring it to life.
car smasher ◊ 2008-10-14 17:59	she has teeth at the end of the movie there, lol -- Last edit: 2008-10-14 18:00:35
XFJaguar ◊ 2008-12-01 16:52	i say it is a fury. if u look at the shots of the front, rite above the headlights, there is a small turn signal light. like its like between the two headlights, slightly above them. theres one on each side, and only the fury had those lights. the belvedere didn't.
Cycolac Fan ◊ 2008-12-14 23:38	I think you'll find XFJaguar that all the '58 Plymouths regardless of trim level or bodystyle had turn signals between the headlights. My research indicates they used 12 Plymouths in Christine, though sources, including Stephen King, have quoted 17 or 18. They used a mixture of 57s and 58's and adapted them to look like Christine - a 1958 Fury - with gold painted trim made from metal chequer plate. A lot of parts, trim pieces, hubcaps and panels were moulded from rubber and glued on as it was quicker and cheaper than sourcing lots of genuine parts. Apparently one four door was used but I've never spotted it. Many cars were repaired and reused, especially for front and rear crashes. Ie if they wrecked the front end then that car might later be used for a rear impact. Ditto cars that got T-boned on one side were reused. Front and rear panels were cut off and welded onto other cars. They had a full time garage running fixing up the cars. Even in the early 80s these Plymouth coupes were rare and hard to find. I've heard from various sources that the movie people turned down buying Plymouths that were too nice to wreck, although a couple of easily restorable cars were totalled. At the end there were two 'Pristine Christines' left - these were close up cars with mint paint interiors and bodywork, both were apparently given away in competitions.
Cycolac Fan ◊ 2008-12-14 23:42	Quote I felt all cold when the Bullys broke in, smashed it up and crapped on the dashboard! If it helps you any several of the actors who were swinging the hammers got injured with cuts from sharp pieces of trim and broken glass - these cars don't go down without a fight!
sweetscion57 ◊ 2008-12-23 18:56	My boyfriend said this is a good movie.... he says he can picture me with a killer xB. He said if I get a killer xB I should name it DJ....
HunterMan ◊ 2009-03-21 01:21	Christine is meant to be a 1958 Plymouth Fury--NOT a Belvedere, Plaza, or Savoy! I know that several Belvederes and Savoys as well as tons of Furys were bought and turned into Furys...but the car is meant to be a Fury! I don't see a whole lot of differnce in the grill of a Fury or a Belvedere. How do we know that this pic is one of the Belvederes turned into a Fury, or one of the actual Furys bought and still customized? This should be listed as a 58 Plymough Fury, NOT a Belvedere!
bird ◊ 2009-04-02 17:17	I knew it wasn't a Plymouth Furry just by the head light. Can anybody get more pics of Cristine please? -- Last edit: 2009-04-02 17:30:24
Mfinity ◊ 2009-06-06 03:37	i think it should be listed as a fury, because that is what i search for when i want christine. i have nightmares about this car
Mycroft ◊ 2009-10-03 04:28	I understand the discussion over this car, but some of the comments seem a bit off the point. The car in the book was a 1958 Fury 4-door custom ordered with red and white body/interior. The car in the movie is made to mimic a (non-existant) 1958 Fury 2-door hardtop with custom red and white body/interior. This was done by using Belvedere 2-door hardtops and customizing them with Fury features, but retaining the red and white color scheme. But the question then becomes, is the car in the picture a Belvedere mocked up to look like a customized Fury, or is the car in the picture an actual Fury that was modified to be a customized Fury. It doesn't change the fact that the car portrayed in the movie is supposed to be a customized 1958 Plymouth Fury. It's silly to say that if a car is painted a color it was not originally offered in, then it is not the same car anymore. The car is what it was built as. If it is customized, then it is an altered version of the original model. Listing the car from the movie as a Belvedere (as Fury) seems the best way to cover the issue. But if someone involved with the production can point to the car in that picture and say it was an actual Fury... well then that answeres that. All 1958 Plymouth products had the turn signal above and between the twin headlights. This was not exclusive to any model. I owned a '58 Savoy 4-door sedan, and it had the same turn signal setup. Not all 1958 Plymouths had body section below the front bumper painted to match the body. This area, called the "grill pan" was originally painted to match the body. This caused problems during production/assembly. The cars grill pans were later painted silver (or "argent"). HOWEVER, the 1958 Fury ALWAYS had the grill pan painted to match the special Fury body color. This information comes from WPC News Vol XIV no 5, January 1983. (This is a Chrysler club news-letter). -- Last edit: 2009-10-03 04:33:37
Commander 57 ◊ 2009-10-03 16:11	I must partially disagree with the statement that more cars were saved because of the movie than otherwise would have been. While there may have been more awareness of these cars (resulting in some additional savings) I wonder whether or not the movie (owing in part to it's popularity) encouraged film makers to destroy other cars. Also, I expect more people came to enjoy scenes of old car destruction (and demand more) than were encouraged to search for and save these vanishing pieces of our culture. Unlike endangered species of animals that can regenerate themselves once protected, there will NEVER be any more 1957, 1958 or any other year Plymouths or other brands. Once one is destroyed, that is one less FOREVER. And once they are ALL gone (and some models of some makes have in fact become extinct) that will be it for all time. -- Last edit: 2009-10-03 16:41:11
leoz ◊ 2009-10-04 21:39	It's the sad truth dude, but people know this and down-to-earth Americans and car fans restore them. In fact, there are still quite a lot of '57/'58 Plymouths around. Sure, surviving Furys may be Christine replicas resprayed red and white, but even in another hundred years these classics will be older and worth a lot more money. Look at the positive side of things when it comes to classics!
Commander 57 ◊ 2009-10-04 22:31	Not only do you loose cars, you also loose parts that could be used on other restorations.

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