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1966 Brabham BT 18 F3

1966 Brabham BT 18 in A Dandy in Aspic, Movie, 1968 IMDB

Class: Cars, Racecar — Model origin: UK

1966 Brabham BT 18 F3

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bref FR

2009-04-22 22:29

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1966 Matra MS5?

mike962 DE

2013-10-07 20:26

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I found F3 race results but can't determine the year

if 1965

blue no 6 is Brabham BT10
green with yellow No 3 Cooper Ford


if 1966
blue no 6 Brabham BT18
green with yellow no 3 Brabham BT16

if 1967
blue no 6 Le Grand Mk 5
green with yello no. 3 Brabham BT18

http://www.formula2.net/F365_E32.htm

mike962 DE

2013-10-07 20:27

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:hello: DidierF

any ideas , what does fit ?

to me the blue car does fit with BT10
http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/D3S_4365.jpg

-- Last edit: 2013-10-07 20:29:16

DidierF FR

2013-10-11 17:10

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mike962 wrote :hello: DidierF
any ideas , what does fit ?
to me the blue car does fit with BT10
http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/D3S_4365.jpg

From here and now (to me), these cars are not F3 but bigger F2. I've read the location was supposed to be at Avus, according to IMDb. And according to your www.formula2.net there was no F2 races in Avus. So, I'm wondering if the IMDb notation is right.

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 17:43

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DidierF wrote
From here and now (to me), these cars are not F3 but bigger F2. I've read the location was supposed to be at Avus, according to IMDb. And according to your www.formula2.net there was no F2 races in Avus. So, I'm wondering if the IMDb notation is right.

there was a F2 race in 64
http://www.formula2.net/F264_11.htm

no 6 Brabham BT10
no 3 DNA (did not arrive)

so IMO it was from F3 race !!


and this track IS Avus for sure

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 17:45:25

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 17:46

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even noted on Wiki

Quote After 1961, Grand Prix racing did not race on banked circuits anymore. The banked sections at Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Autodrome de Linas-Montlhéry etc. were considered dangerous by international racing standards. They were used in connection with chicanes for some time, then abandoned. The AVUS banking was dismantled in 1967 to give way to an expanded intersection under the Funkturm tower. From the top of this tower, one can see that the AVUS is not perfectly straight.
The old banked circuit can be seen in the film A Dandy in Aspic (1968) featuring period racing cars.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS

DidierF FR

2013-10-11 18:30

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All right. So it's the Avus for sure. I'll check the '64 F2 race (René Bonnet! Basis of the Matra team!) and then try to re-watch the pics thinking of the cars as F3.

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 18:41

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DidierF wrote All right. So it's the Avus for sure. I'll check the '64 F2 race (René Bonnet! Basis of the Matra team!) and then try to re-watch the pics thinking of the cars as F3.

once the year is determined for sure ID this cars based on race results should be quite easy

DidierF FR

2013-10-11 19:14

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Yes, it should be easy.
This is the first line : 6, 25, 5
Second line : 17, 1x, 3. This #3 looks like a Cooper.

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:17:55

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 19:20

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DidierF wrote Yes, it should be easy.
This is the first line : 6, 25, 5
Second line : 4, 1x, 3. This #3 looks like a Cooper.

if 3 is a Cooper according to 65 results
http://www.formula2.net/F365_E32.htm

25 - Brabham BT15
5- Cooper T76


does it fit or it could be different year ?

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 19:21

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in 66 results http://www.formula2.net/F366_E70.htm

25 - Brabham BT15
5 - Brabham BT15 (BUT DNA - did not arrive)

so means this footage is from the 65 race !!!

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:21:54

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 19:22

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in 67 no 25 DNA !! so I think its confirmed fully Didier you need to rely on the 65 race results !


in 64 there is NO no 25 listed http://www.formula2.net/F364_E27.htm

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:25:02

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 19:29

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SO all type of cars raced in 65 F3 race


Brabham BT15
Brabham BT10
Brabham BT9
Alpine A270 - Renault
Cooper T76 - BMC
Cooper T59 - Ford/Holbay
Merlyn Mk 9 - Ford
AU-Bode - DKW
Graf - Simca (Franz Graf - self build car seems)
Aumont - Panhard
Lotus 20 - Ford
Lotus 31
Lotus 34 - Ford
Lova - DKW

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:44:35

DidierF FR

2013-10-11 19:30

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Besides, watching the other pics, I change my mind. These cars could well be F3, all right.

Do you read the same numbers as I do, for the two lines, 6 / 25 / 5 then 17 / 1x / 3 ?

mike962 DE

2013-10-11 19:36

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DidierF wrote Besides, watching the other pics, I change my mind. These cars could well be F3, all right.

Do you read the same numbers as I do, for the two lines, 6 / 25 / 5 then 17 / 1x / 3 ?

for rigth side yes for the left side only 3 not quite sure about the others

here another test , you agree this is Brabham BT 16 , the race winner like list suggest or you have doubts about being BT16 ??
/vehicle.php?id=224751

-- Last edit: 2013-10-11 19:37:07

mike962 DE

2014-01-27 16:02

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well I rechecked everything, this must be the 66 race footage


no 6 was a Brabham BT18 - Ford

simply in 1965 there was NO no 6 car on the grid

-- Last edit: 2014-01-27 16:02:50

mike962 DE

2014-01-28 22:18

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:hello: DSL

this is Brabham BT18 in the end,

what caused the confusion is MIS ID of race number, the car in front is no 2 not no 5

-- Last edit: 2014-01-28 22:24:00

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