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antp 16-07-2004 à 12:49	8583 DeLorean produites entre 1981 et 1983. Trois voitures ont été utilisées pour ce premier film, dont une découpée pour les plans intérieurs. La carosserie est en acier inoxidable, comme dit dans le film. Le moteur est un moteur PRV (Peugeot-Renault-Volvo). Elle était construite en Irlande, et beaucoup de pièces étaient d'origine européenne.
IMCDb 30-07-2004 à 02:39	Notamment un chassis Ford, il me semble...
fan de caiises bizar 02-08-2004 à 23:19	8583 on été faites?? on peutles voir dans quel pays d'après vous??
antp 04-08-2004 à 23:32	Non, c'est un chassis Lotus. Il y en a une petite dizaine en France, quelques unes au Luxembourg et Belgique. Un peu plus en Allemagne, et probablement un peu partout en Europe, même s'il y en a très peu. En Amérique du Nord il y en a nettement plus, vu qu'elles n'étaient vendues que là.
antp 04-08-2004 à 23:33	Enfin, il y en a peut-être plus que ça en France, j'exagère vers le bas en disant une dizaine
Mauresque 18-08-2004 à 04:15	Elles sont rare partour, mais moins en Amérique du nord. Elle sont toutes des voitures de collection abordable, performantes, et qui ne passent pas innapercu. Pour 25 000$ canadien environ il est possible de s'en procurer une (si on la trouve) au Quebec.
Arnault 13-09-2004 à 15:21	J'en connais une que vous pouvez en croiser une régulièrement a tout bon meeting US en France. Présente au Mopar Nats 2003 d'ailleurs. Je pense pas me tromper de beaucoup en annonçant qu'il en existe ou a existé une grosse centaine maximum en Europe. Comme le souligne Antp, on en croise plus en Allemagne, j'ai du en croiser une en Belgique, et j'ai du en croiser UNE au Lux. @+
Arnault 13-09-2004 à 15:26	Ha, au fait, la base est le PRV 2.8 bien connu version atmo 130 bourrins a peu près, chassis réalisé par Lotus, assemblées a Belfast en Irelande. JZ Delorean etait l'ancien PDG du groupe GM. La ligne est due a Ital Design, alias Giorgetto Giugiaro. Je viens de découvrir a l'instant qu'il y en aurait eu trois... plauquées or 24 carats ! http://bigtexas.com/dmc/ @+ @+
antp 09-10-2005 à 11:54	Few extra pictures... Nice tyres choice: "Good Year" for a time-traveling machine -- Last edit: 2006-03-18 14:32:45
wickey 2006-04-07 02:28
antp 2006-04-07 10:08	Strange that I forgot to post that picture
Carfan 2006-05-26 22:38	Here are some other pictures including one of the Flux Capacitor "which makes time travel possible". -- Last edit: 2006-06-04 15:54:08 (antp)
1954MGTF 2006-09-05 01:05	The DeLorean is a British car (Northern Ireland), not American. The DeLorean country flag next to the car, is shown as USA. It is NOT an American car!! As an American who has a DeLorean, and lived 10 miles from it's creator John Z. DeLorean (who is an American in NJ) and having returned from the 25th anniversary of the car near Belfast and toured the old plant, I CAN ASSURE YOU THE CAR WAS MADE IN DUNMURRY, NEAT BELFAST IN NORTHERN IRELAND, SO IT IS A BRITISH CAR! Keith Murphy
Hecubus 2006-09-05 03:51	But it was an American company wasn't it? That's more the defining factor (as another instance, there are several Fords on the site that are listed as German, desipte not being built there).
antp 2006-09-05 10:41	Car was made in UK/IE but the company, creator and target market were american...
wickey 2006-09-05 12:48	probably the same case as VW Touareg - they are also made (built) in Slovakia, but they probably are not slovak cars
stronghold 2006-09-15 02:57	antp wrote Car was made in UK/IE but the company, creator and target market were american... ..shouldn't these now be listed as built in (origin) Ireland ..for the USA.? -- Last edit: 2006-09-15 02:58:51
antp 2006-09-15 12:45	Origin is not especially where it is built, but rather where it is designed, where the company that produce it was localized. The company is not Irish I think. And if it was, they would have sold the car in IE/UK I think. cf wickey's comment. Now lots of Renault are made in Turkey or something like that, that does not mean they are Turkish cars, they are still French cars... -- Last edit: 2006-09-15 12:46:37
jplemoine 2006-09-15 12:54	Pas tout à fait d'accord dans le cas spécifique de la De Lorean: voiture fabriquée en Irlande comme un produit irlandais et revendiqué comme tel, dans ce cas précis. Okay, John Z DeLorean est américain, mais la fabrication avait été annoncée comme irlandaise, à grands coups de trompette, à l'époque. Un de ces, je retrouverai les articles de presse de ces temps reculés... Pour le cas des Renault, OK. Sauf pour la Clio 4 portes, spécifique au marché turc... De même pour, par exemple, la Citroën Fukang, déclinaison lointaine et chinoise de la ZX, en trois volumes... comme les Dacia 1310, que l'on considère sans états d'âme comme roumaines. Alors que les premières étaient des copies conforme de la Renault 12... (CKD, au début!)
antp 2006-09-15 14:55	Je faisais allusion aux Renault vendues en France quand je parlais de celles faites en Turquie La version 4 portes n'est pas spécifique au marché turc: on la retrouve en Europe de l'Est, Afrique du Nord, Amérique du Sud... Pour la DeLorean en fait c'est bien possible... C'est vrai que la société semble avoir aussi déménagé en Irlande et pas juste la production... à voir donc. -- Last edit: 2006-09-15 14:56:49
Alexander 2006-09-15 20:59	The De Lorean Motor Company was set up in Northern Ireland and heavily funded by the British government, therefore 'Made in UK'. In the end the company was sadly killed after just 18 month due to a economic recession and undercover FBI agents trying to buy company shares with drugs. Even though targeted at customers in the USA this was, to my knowledge, not an exclusive market. Therefore I would not use 'Made for USA'. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lorean
Gag Halfrunt 2006-09-15 21:13	Alexander wrote Even though targeted at customers in the USA this was, to my knowledge, not an exclusive market. Therefore I would not use 'Made for USA'. Isn't it "made for USA" in the sense that it's a US specification model?
antp 2006-09-15 21:17	Well, "made for something" was for special versions of cars (e.g. Citroën SM with horrible headlights, or Austin with fancy names). Here it is the "normal" version that is US-specs.
DeLorean 2006-10-13 17:56	DeLorean is made by an american and is produced in Ireland!!! So american-britisch... But the best car ever made!!!!
DeLorean 2006-10-13 18:01	And the Pontiac GTO you see up there... (and down text) Is made bij John Z. DeLorean!!!!!
jplemoine 2006-10-13 18:59	La voiture n'a JAMAIS été fabriquée par une seule personne, mais par une équipe... avec à sa tête John Z. DeLorean comme décideur. Donc la DeLorean n'a pas grand-chose d'américain... Le moteur? Un V6 PRV... A peu près comme si on disait que la grande Muraille de chine a été construite par l'empereur qui a décidé du chantier (et qui ne l'a pas financé: pour ça, vaut mieux s'adresser au contribuable!) Oun alors les voitures dessinées par Raymond Loewy sont françaises, et celles de Paul Bracq aussi? Ils vont en tirer une tête chez Mercedes...
DeLorean 2006-10-15 16:36	Sans John Z. DeLorean -> pas de DeLorean DMC. C'est lui qui avais l'idée!!
jplemoine 2006-10-15 19:52	Et sans toute l'équipe derrière, sans les subventions massives de l'Irlande du Nord (de l'Etat anglais donc!) pas de DeLorean DMC non plus...
DeLorean 2006-10-15 20:38	Sans l'equipe la delorean aurais ete un autre modele. Mais elle aurais ete la!! Bien content que'elle est devenu comme-ca!!
antp 2007-04-08 11:46	Yes, they were.
wickey 2007-04-08 13:33	basically most cars are made of stainless steel - this one had no paint on it, just zinc cover
antp 2007-04-08 16:38	Well, usually the paint is there to prevent steel rusting, which is something that does not happen with stainless steel, no? (stainless steel = acier innoxydable in French, which means non-rusting steel)
Neptune 2007-04-08 19:48	Looks just like my stainless steel Whirlpool Conquest Side-by-Side Refrigerator.
dragstrip_2010 2007-09-22 16:52	major props on this delorean dmc 12!!!
Bravada 2007-11-24 18:52	All DeLoreans were built in Northern Ireland, where the company was also headquartered (so the "origin: USA" is a bit misleading...)
Ingo 2007-11-24 20:07	Ah, Bravada now has a new inner calling - to check the whole forum for cars, where the remark "made for" can fit.
Bravada 2007-11-24 20:09	I've promised to do so, so there you go
antp 2007-11-24 20:11	So UK origin?
Ingo 2007-11-24 20:21	Orign U.S., made in Northern Ireland (not GB, the Scots also don't like the Union Jack very much) -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 20:22:15
Ingo 2007-11-24 20:23	Do you have the flags for Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England? I'm just grumbling, if there were some car-factories in the UK, but outside of England. I don't know, my knowledge about British cars is weak.
antp 2007-11-24 20:25	Ingo wrote Do you have the flags for Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England? These are not "countries". I included them for member profiles as some may prefer to use such flags and because I had the images, but the cars won't mind if they get the GB/UK flag -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 20:25:16
Bravada 2007-11-24 20:26	Rootes Group had a factory in Linwood, Scotland where they built the Imps, later Avengers and Chrysler Sunbeams. I also think Hunter assembly was moved there at the dusk of the model's life, and later some assembly reportedly took place in an undisclosed location in Ireland...
Bravada 2007-11-24 20:28	Ingo wrote Orign U.S., made in Northern Ireland (not GB, the Scots also don't like the Union Jack very much) Depends on which of the Ulster folk you are talking about - the majority of Northern Ireland's citizens are Anglicans, which makes it more probable for them to be Unionists, and thus quite fond of the Union Jack. -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 20:28:47
G-MANN 2007-11-24 21:03	A few points: Great Britain (GB) is the island which comprises of England, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, but it is part of the United Kingdom (UK), which is the correct official name for the nation which comprises of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, as well as well as the little islands off the coast of these countries. The full title is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". So Northern Ireland still comes under the Union Jack flag. Northern Ireland doesn't have an OFFICIAL flag anymore, but there have been various flag attributed to it, see this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Northern_Ireland For the British members of IMCDB, they can choose either their individual country flag, or the national Union Jack flag, it's up to them. I once thought it might be an idea to have us be able to list both the Union Jack and our country flag, and maybe Americans could also list their state flag, and people from other countries could also have state or province flags, but it would probably be too much effort to sort out and would take up too much space. -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 21:04:09
carchasesfanatic 2007-11-24 21:04	no provinces flags please
G-MANN 2007-11-24 21:20	Why not?
antp 2007-11-24 21:21	Too much detail, not useful here. Imagine the amount of province/regions/states if you count the subdivisions of each country. -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 21:22:03
carchasesfanatic 2007-11-24 21:24	17 for Spain, plus then the regions with more than one province, no thanks.
G-MANN 2007-11-24 21:25	I guess so, that's why I didn't mention the idea until now. A few members haven't even chosen the right flag for themselves anyway.
carchasesfanatic 2007-11-24 21:28	G-MANN wrote A few members haven't even chosen the right flag for themselves anyway. You obssesed huh
G-MANN 2007-11-24 21:33	Ingo wrote Orign U.S., made in Northern Ireland (not GB, the Scots also don't like the Union Jack very much) That is true, because the government of the UK is dominated by England (which is also by far the most populous country). Some Scots want Scotland to become completely independant one day. There's the old joke that when some Scots and Welsh have to list their nationality on a form by ticking the correct box, they cross out "British" and write "Scottish" or "Welsh". So it might be good for some people that this site gives them the option of choosing the flags of England, Scotland or Wales instead of UK.
G-MANN 2007-11-24 21:34	carchasesfanatic wrote You obssesed huh Not really, I just think it's a bit silly when, for example, someone chooses the Vatican City flag. -- Last edit: 2007-11-24 21:35:47
carchasesfanatic 2007-11-24 21:41
Ingo 2007-11-25 14:31	G-MANN wrote Not really, I just think it's a bit silly when, for example, someone chooses the Vatican City flag. Perhaps he is a proud catholic. My sister's husband do this is reality, fot that reason lifting up a Vatican-flag in his garden.
Bravada 2007-11-25 14:39	The car was still made in the UK, though...
CrazyCars 2007-12-17 13:35	Isn't there a DeLorean that was launched in 2004?
lastinpurple 2007-12-17 16:36	Yes, actually they are re-making it now
demetrie 2007-12-18 07:26	I've heard that the BTTF delorean used in the movie did not use the regular slow Pugeot engines. The movie makers instead put powerful Porsche engines in to give the car better peformance.
antp 2007-12-18 15:54	Original performances of the car was quite enough for what they used it in the movie (only real action scene being the chase with a VW Bus on a car park )
demetrie 2008-02-03 09:41	The Delorean did have Porsche engines installed in the car, in fact u can listen to the car's torque of how gruntling it sounds compared to the regular PRV Pugeot engines that are stock for the Deloreans. In the Back to the Future 1 scene in the last part of the movie when "Doc" Brown backs out of the drive way after picking up Marty and Jeniffer before having the car fly, listen to the car's torque while the car is backing out of the drive way
Gag Halfrunt 2008-02-03 11:36	Or, more likely, the sound editor mixed in the noise of a Porsche engine to make the car sound more powerful. It's entirely normal for sound effects to be beefed up like that. -- Last edit: 2008-02-03 11:36:58
antp 2008-02-03 17:06	I do not remember that it sounded like a Porsche engine, but anyway engine sounds in movies are often modified/replaced.
Ingo 2008-02-03 19:28	A friend of mine, a Japanese in the USA, had such a DeLorean a long time ago. Mostly there was no engine-sound anyways - because it never runs. Worst quality as hell, even worse than the Maserati Biturbo, he owned later. After these exotic desastrous excursions he went back to reality and bought some VW's. Ca.4-5 years ago, in my old home-town Dortmund I was wondering, to see a DeLorean parking on the street in the neighbourhood. Obviously the owner has used it for daily driving (or daily standing around). -- Last edit: 2008-02-03 19:28:39
landrover1 2008-02-21 05:57	http://probertdesigns.com/Folder_DESIGN/BackTTF_Designs1.html link to a site who shows how the delorean was turned into a travel machine all in sketches -- Last edit: 2008-02-21 05:58:49
demetrie 2008-08-04 08:24	Now folks, here's proof that the Delorean engine was replaced with Porsche engines for the movie which was used for the Porsche 928, just read the behind the scenes section at the bottom; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine
demetrie 2008-08-04 08:33	Here's another proof of that too,just read at the bottom of the page where it says behing the scenes; Link to "bttf.wikia.com" And here's one more proof of that, just read above the section where it say's electronics in green; http://www.backtothefuture.me.uk/delorean.html
demetrie 2008-08-04 08:34	The reason why the movie makers had changed the engines was because it wasnt getting up to speed that was the problem that they faced in the movie. It was the fact that all the weight that was put on the car and a wee little 6 cyl wouldnt cut it, so they put a porsche engine in it.
Pedro 2008-08-04 19:26	Quero um desse pra mim...e se for possível que possa viajar no tempo...:D

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