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Junkman ◊ 2006-01-26 00:23	Lada Riva
BeanBandit ◊ 2006-01-26 00:52	Better in -50 C Siberia than Ferrari 360, Mr Clarkson...
Junkman ◊ 2006-01-26 01:08	Better on a banger race track than a Modena too!
no_car ◊ 2006-01-26 09:50	or VAZ 2105
stronghold ◊ 2006-01-26 15:20	Think of how many of these you could buy...for the price of a 360.!!
Nightrider ◊ 2006-01-30 19:43	Lada Riva is a kinda export name for that VAZ 2105 "Zhiguli", but I doubt,that this piece of crap got some export success.
DIEHARD ◊ 2006-01-30 20:27	At the time it was a 'cheap' new car. You could own a new car for the price of a second hand one....For some people that is a major consideration when buying a car. I also think there where cars which where even worse then this Lada, take the Skoda 105/110 for instance. Due to the engine in the back it is hazardous to drive one with strong winds, the front gets pushed away. (Hey, did I just summ up one advantage of a Lada??? ) Basically it meaned you got a car with a design from 20 years ago, nowadays...a bit like the Dacia Logan which is now for sale. Or the Deawoos and Kia's of the 1990's....
antp ◊ 2006-01-30 20:48	I prefer to buy a second-hand one One week ago I went into a Lada 110 at Brussels' automobile salon (so not know the english word for that ) and the inside looked worse/cheaper than the old Renault 11 that my parents had 10 years ago (which was quite cheaper than a new Lada). -- Last edit: 2006-01-30 20:48:37
Nightrider ◊ 2006-01-30 23:17	Do you know why almost whole our (Russian) Far East regions drive second-hand Japan cars?
Exiv96 ◊ 2006-01-30 23:20	Because technical inspection costs and car fashion awereness in Japan leave a LOT of used cars to get rid of in all possible ways ? And because Vladivostok isn't far from Japan ? BTW I remember seeing many years ago in Brussels a right-hand-drive, japan-spec Mitsubishi Galant Sigma from the mid 80's, with russian plates. Very interesting. -- Last edit: 2006-01-30 23:22:14
Nightrider ◊ 2006-01-31 14:28	Yea, as well as they provide greater comfort,greater reliablity,greater performance,etc etc etc. I live in european part,but even there RHD Japan-spec cars are not rare thing...
Jun ◊ 2006-01-31 15:29	:to Nightrider Russian sailor and fisherman buys many second-hand cars at Japanese ports. Few years ago, Russian Far East regions and Japan strengthened regulation and tax for Russian industrial protection and theft prevention. (some theft performs Japanese gangs and 'yakuza'. More than a harf of them are Korean ) But recently, sailors and fisherman camouflages their export place as Kazakhstan for tax saving.
Jun ◊ 2006-01-31 15:47	...and sometimes they cut a car into two pieces Pieces are not a car any longer, and tax is low. Arrived at Russian port, pieces are welded
Nightrider ◊ 2006-01-31 18:58	People ready for all to purchase real car instead of VAZ!
mii himself ◊ 2006-02-21 18:24	vaz 2105 is in finland called lada.i
G-MANN ◊ 2006-08-13 23:06	BeanBandit wrote Better in -50 C Siberia than Ferrari 360, Mr Clarkson... Are these old things actually any good in sub-zero climates then?
G-MANN ◊ 2006-08-16 13:52	The Lada was a complete joke in Britain (the butt of many jokes in fact), I don't mean to look down on anyone from Eastern Europe but it was vastly inferior to other new European cars, I mean anyone with sense would get a used Ford Escort or something similar for the price of Lada, when it comes to ordinary, everyday cars I don't see the point in paying more for a brand new car over one that's only a year old, still in top condition and costs much less, unless it's important for you to have something brand new (if you're a suburban snob) and the money isn't really an issue. Yes, you get warranty and 0% finance blah blah and you can have the car made to your specifications, but when you're buying something under £20,000, they'll be thousands of other cars like it on the road (unless it's a Lada, hardly anyone seemed to want them), so why buy a new Focus instead of one that's nearly new and thousands of pounds cheaper. Only people who don't know anything about cars can't easily find a decent used motor. I remember looking in car magazines when I was a kid, when the Lada was still sold as a new car in the UK, it was the only car on the new car list that didn't have a radio as standard, and it lacked all the other features that were available on most other cars, including basic things like central locking. -- Last edit: 2006-08-16 14:03:17
salvation ◊ 2006-10-03 14:27	Jun wrote Russian sailor and fisherman buys many second-hand cars at Japanese ports. reminds me of some photos i saw a while ago http://static.flickr.com/46/148413366_6cfa3d2571_b.jpg http://static.flickr.com/52/148418490_245a4a6928_b.jpg -- Last edit: 2006-10-03 14:29:29
Red Grant ◊ 2008-01-01 21:04	Ha, I remeber seeing this one on YouTube. To Salvation: Those pictures are real?!
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-01 21:32	Some years ago, scenes like that, you could also see in some German harbours at the Baltic Sea-coast, mostly in the small town Neustadt in Holstein. Rotten and rusty Russian fish-trawlers were loaded with also rotten and rusty used cars. The German police and custom-patrol has stopped that for some reasons. So the habitants of the town were getting angry, because it was getting popular in that area, that, if you want to get rid of an old car, you have driven your ould car on the quay, have mounted off the plates - and have it left there with keys inside, sometimes with running engines. The guys have thought "Anyone from the Russians will pick it up, sooner or later." So the small harbour was filled with junk-cars, the former owners have left there. Annother problem was, that the Russian have wrecked the cars on sea (to avoid to pay custom-fee for complete cars) and have thrown the wrecks overboard into the Baltic sea - so the fishermen from Germany, Denmark, Poland or Sweden were getting pissed, because the wrecks have cutted their nets. It had also happend, that the fisherman have lifted up theit nets and ust have catched an Audi 80-wreck -- Last edit: 2008-01-01 21:36:42
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-01 21:35	By the way: that Lada ("Lada Nova" in Western Germany) was for the people in the GDR the most expensive "high performance"-car, they could get without relationship to Western Germany. In Western Germany it was on the other side of the range - it was the cheapest vehicle after the Skoda 105, but with a lower reputation. -- Last edit: 2008-01-01 21:35:26
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2008-01-01 21:37	Jun wrote ...and sometimes they cut a car into two pieces Pieces are not a car any longer, and tax is low. Arrived at Russian port, pieces are welded I've read about importers in the Philippines doing that with used vans from Japan, with the added twist that the vans are converted to left hand drive.
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-01 21:45	Jun wrote But recently, sailors and fisherman camouflages their export place as Kazakhstan for tax saving. They do similar things in Europe, too. Thousands, even hundreds of thousands of useds cars were actually bought by Russian dealers in Europe, a lot in Germany, but also in Holland, Belgium and France. The highways to the East over here are always full with hundreds of trucks, loaded with used cars. I'm using such a highway daily (the German A2), so I see it daily, too. But noone of these trucks have Russian license-plates, all of them were from the Baltic states, mostly from Lithuania, sometimes Latuvia (rarely from Belarus). They bring the cars to the Baltic states and from there they smuggle them to Russia. Some months ago the 1990 VW Passat Variant GT of my father took that way, too. Probably now a Siberian Kolchos-farmer will transport his sheeps and goats with it... -- Last edit: 2008-01-01 21:45:59
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-01 21:49	That Lada shown above had a TV-career tow times: /vehicle_69026-Lada-Riva-2105-1986.html
Red Grant ◊ 2008-01-01 21:55	It's rediculous how many cars they have on those boats!
Red Grant ◊ 2008-01-01 21:56	Ingo wrote That Lada shown above had a TV-career tow times: /vehicle_69026-Lada-Riva-2105-1986.html Yeah, that's what I was talking about. -- Last edit: 2008-01-01 21:56:19
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2008-01-01 22:02	Red Grant wrote It's rediculous how many cars they have on those boats! And half of them will fall overboard if the sea gets at all rough. -- Last edit: 2008-01-01 22:03:35
Red Grant ◊ 2008-01-04 05:27	Imagine reeling one in!
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2008-01-04 21:00	Ingo wrote They do similar things in Europe, too. Thousands, even hundreds of thousands of useds cars were actually bought by Russian dealers in Europe, a lot in Germany, but also in Holland, Belgium and France. The highways to the East over here are always full with hundreds of trucks, loaded with used cars. I'm using such a highway daily (the German A2), so I see it daily, too. But noone of these trucks have Russian license-plates, all of them were from the Baltic states, mostly from Lithuania, sometimes Latuvia (rarely from Belarus). They bring the cars to the Baltic states and from there they smuggle them to Russia. Some months ago the 1990 VW Passat Variant GT of my father took that way, too. Probably now a Siberian Kolchos-farmer will transport his sheeps and goats with it... I came across a photo of Lithuanian trucks loaded with used cars from Germany. Link to "www.lkw-infos.eu"
Ingo ◊ 2008-01-04 21:13	Yes, these trucks I was talking about. Hundreds of them are on our streets every day. Thanks for the pic.
paul4990 ◊ 2008-06-01 04:25	in 97/98 we in the uk apparently gave all ladas back to the russians, they are now rare in the UK
minifan92 ◊ 2009-12-22 16:29	The vehicle details for D721 GNG are: Date of Liability 01 08 1997 Date of First Registration 23 08 1986 Year of Manufacture 1986 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1198CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour WHITE

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