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1978 Chrysler Diesel [949] 
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![1978 Chrysler Diesel [949]](i191831.jpg)
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2008-09-19 12:25 |
Chrysler 180/ 2 litre? |
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◊ 2008-09-19 12:43 |
Chrysler 180 |
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◊ 2008-09-19 14:10 |
Built in Spain. |
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◊ 2008-09-20 00:39 |
1975+ ( since it's a Spanish car ). Being a taxi, it could be a 1976+ Chrysler Diesel. |
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◊ 2008-09-20 00:52 |
They sold Chrylers in Europe? How many and for how long? -- Last edit: 2008-09-20 00:52:08 |
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◊ 2008-09-20 00:53 |
http://www.chrysler.es/  |
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◊ 2008-09-20 00:56 |
Well yes they sell them now of course  But all the way back then? And this is clearly not a real Chrysler anyways, it looks like a rebadged Opel or Ford or something |
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◊ 2008-09-20 01:02 |
"The first European Chrysler was the 1975 Alpine hatchback, which was sold in France as the Simca 1307. However, the confused branding of the vehicles, coupled to mediocre design and poor build quality meant profits failed to materialize. Chrysler were already in serious financial trouble back home in America, and were on the brink of bankruptcy. The company's incoming CEO, Lee Iacocca had shown little interest in the European market from the outset (just as he had done during his period in charge of Ford), and wasted no time in wielding the axe almost immediately. In 1978, Chrysler Europe was sold for a nominal US$1 to Peugeot." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Europe) -- Last edit: 2008-09-20 01:09:24 |
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◊ 2008-09-20 01:13 |
I'm still a bit confused. They sold cars as "Chrysler" all through that the 80s and 90s too then? What models did they have then? The only ones that come to mind are the Chrysler Saratoga, Chrylser Startus, and Chrysler Neon... |
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◊ 2008-09-20 01:22 |
No, Peugeot replaced the Chrysler name with Talbot. The details are in the Wikipedia entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Europe |
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◊ 2008-09-20 01:34 |
Voyager/Grand Voyager, 300M, Vision, Stratus, Sebring... -- Last edit: 2008-09-20 01:37:35 |
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◊ 2008-09-20 08:37 |
Actually it is a real Chrysler, but from Chrysler France, not from Chrysler US. Chrysler bought Simca, and so rebadged few models and made few new ones. Which is funny in that story is that in the 50s Simca bought Ford France and rebadged the Ford Vedette as Simca  |
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◊ 2008-09-22 21:54 |
The story of Chrysler in Europe is pretty confusing, first it was Simca, then Chrysler and ended up being bought by Peugeot and become Talbot. The 180 was produced in France and in Spain by Barreiros, and they put diesel engines of different makers so they could serve as taxis. In Spain they even produced a versions of the Dodge Dart, cars for ministers and bullfighters, because they were so pricey. Later in the nineties Chrysler America started to sell cars made in the USA again like the Stratus, and the minivans. Clear as mud?:??: I remember when I was a kid my uncle had a Simca 1200 (the French 1100), and I would swear that the latest models came with the talbot name but with dodge badge in the front... |
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◊ 2008-09-23 21:55 |
Yes, the latest 1100(or 1200) were badged as Talbot - by the way, the 180, as shown above, too! But as I know, just for a few months. Somewhere I must have an old magazine with a Talbot-advertise in, where you could see the model-range. The first car was the Ranchero, the last in the line, the 180. But these Talbots didn't had the Dodge-badge in the grille, they had just a "T" -- Last edit: 2008-09-23 22:22:26 |
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◊ 2008-09-23 22:11 |
@Max: somewhere else over here we still had a discussion about these French Chyrsler's, but I cannot found them again. Recently I've read a story about it in my classic-car-magazine. The story belonged to a column like "Why the hell you are driving such a car?" Only a very few, perhaps less than 10 are left in Germany. The owner told, that the 180 was sold (outside France and Spain) quite well only in the Benelux-countries and -noone had an idea why- in Czechoslovakia. There it was a qute well sold Western car. Wickey wrote, that his father had such a Chrysler, too. It was meant as a rival to the Audi 100 C1, the Mercedes W115, the Peugeot 504 and the VW K 70 - so I have literature about it, comparison-tests in motor-magazines. And from my childhood I still have a 1:43 plastic-Chrysler 180, made by Norev. A ride in a Chrysler 180, owned by a friend of my father, had impressed me very much - it was the first time in my life (I was 5 or 6 years old), that I sat in a car, which runs 140 km/h! At that time my father only had a lame 1968+ VW 1300. |
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◊ 2008-09-23 22:16 |
P.S. About European Chryslers: this British car, a reminiscence of the Rootes-area, was sold as Chrysler, later Talbot, too: /vehicle_32659-Chrysler-Avenger-1977.html more details here, too: /vehicle_32639-Chrysler-Avenger-1977.html And annother British model either: /vehicle_136837-Chrysler-Sunbeam-1979.html |
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◊ 2008-09-23 22:23 |
P.S.II: these French and British Chryslers of the 70ies had always the worst reputation (quality, reliability, rust) of all brands in that times. |
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◊ 2008-09-23 23:45 |
Though the latest van versions were sold and advertised as Dodge Half-Ton in the UK (but still had the name Talbot on the bonnet...). |
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◊ 2008-09-24 10:20 |
You chaps are all sooooo young! In 1964, the Rootes Group, (Humber, Hillman, Singer, Sunbeam and Commer / Karrier Commercial vehicles), was short of money following a prolonged strike at the British Light Steel Pressings plant in London, which stopped all car production as BLSP was a wholly owned component supplier. Chrysler was looking for an entry into the British market and took a partial financial stake in Rootes, followed by complete purchase and integration into Chrysler Europe, basically (I think) Simca and Barreiros, in 1970. From then a model integration policy started and some cars were named Chrysler rather than using the existing company names, hence Chrysler 180 and 2-litre. This was the European C-sized car, styled (!!) in England, with a Simca Engine. We had a 2-litre in my family, it went very well in a straight line, but became a bit difficult if you found some corners to play on. In 1980, following a further shake up and the amalgamation with Peugeot/Citroen, the marque name in UK became Talbot, dating back to the very earliest days of motoring. -- Last edit: 2008-09-24 11:09:33 |
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◊ 2008-09-24 22:14 |
@John: my age is not the main reason of my weak knowledge of the -you must admit, quite confused- Rootes-history. The main reason is, that nearly all of the products of the Rootes-group and its former independent companies were at all times, even in the 60ies and 70ies, totally unknown here in Germany. Except a handfull of Sunbeam Alpines and less Imp's, and in the lates 70ies not more Sunbeam Horizon's, there weren't sold any cars over here, just a few dozen per year. |
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◊ 2008-09-24 23:32 |
@Ingo: In 1967 I went for holiday to Germany, with my parents in their 1965 Hillman Super Minx. Suddenly the cable of the speedometer broke... No way to find a spare cable in Germany, so we had to continue our journey without knowing at what speed we were driving... To complete the complex history of Chrysler in Europe: -Chrysler had assembly plants in Holland and Switzerland (and I think in Sweden as well). -In 1963 Chrysler took over the French Simca, which was originally a Fiat assembly plant (since 1934, in the former Donnet-Zedel factory) and had taken over the French Ford factories and their V8 Vedette models in 1955 (and also Unic in 1951 and Talbot in 1958). -- Last edit: 2008-09-24 23:38:25 |
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◊ 2008-09-25 19:18 |
I'm not surprised that the Rootes Group's products were little known in Germany. They were, in general, not very good cars and my feeling is that they would not have found a market against the cars from the German factories. My employer gave me an estate car as part of my package, and I had four Hillman Hunters between 1972 and 1977 aveaging about forty thousand miles a year. The Hunter was not too bad, being rather like a Mark 2 Cortina, but was about five years too late as Ford were then producing the Mark 3 Cortina! I was glad to change my job! |
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◊ 2013-08-09 16:41 |
Taxi Chrysler 180 apparemment espagnol. |
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◊ 2014-07-01 17:30 |
Chrysler 180 Barreiros Diesel TAXI ALICANTE (ESPAÑA) |
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◊ 2015-06-21 02:41 |
chrysler 180 diesel barreiros, fabricado en villaverde (madrid) taxi de benidorm |
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◊ 2023-02-23 13:16 |
Same: /vehicle_192208-Chrysler-Diesel-949-1975.html |
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