Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin:
Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2008-06-14 23:34 |
Surprise!! It's a 1964+ Panhard 17 |
◊ 2008-06-15 00:16 |
Is that the gear stick on the wheel column?! love it |
◊ 2008-06-15 00:21 |
Yes, in third gear. |
◊ 2008-06-15 00:23 |
How many does it have? and the first gear is on the left? and where's the reverse position? |
◊ 2008-06-15 00:52 |
It's got four gears. First is close to the wheel upwards; second downwards, third is at more distance from the wheel upwards and fourth downwards again. Reverse is rather complicated: you put the stick to the right (one could say you make it longer by half a centimeter), then you pull it closer to the steering wheel, then you turn it down by a quarter of a circle... But don't tell anybody, since this is the best secret to prevent the car from being stolen To put it in first gear it's best to go slightly to second: thus will the synchromesh for the second gear help to prevent 'teethbrushing'. To go from third to fourth there are two option: once you've reached the speed of 70 km/h you release the accelerator and you push down the gear stick without using the clutch (normally you'll succeed without too much noises) or you use the clutch to bring the stick to neutral, you release the clutch and the accelerator and wait a few seconds, then you push on the clutch again and gently the gear stick will glide into fourth... ANd when you shift down it's always good to push the accelerator a bit once you've pushed the clutch. Quite a sport to drive Panhard |
◊ 2008-06-15 00:57 |
Indeed, my God it just sounds so complicated anyway Mike, hos is it possible to change gear without pressing the clutch? -- Last edit: 2008-06-15 00:59:06 |
◊ 2008-06-15 01:12 |
That's a car to start driving with |
◊ 2008-06-15 01:21 |
When you drop the revs at 70 km/h you automatically have the right rev for fourth gear In fact, it should be possible with any car to change gears without using the clutch (I manage to do so with my 2CV), but usually it's better to do it the normal way. |
◊ 2008-06-16 21:32 |
For real fun try driving a car or truck with an all crash box, ie no synchromesh. I started with a car without synchromesh and then had several that had lost it along the way. |
◊ 2008-07-11 22:19 |
Suddenly there's a different picture (there was only a pic of the dashboard...). The exterior pic is of a 1954 Dyna [Z1]: overriders, old lights above the license plate and near to the rear doors. The extra lights (from a 1957+ Dyna [Z12] or [Z16]) are later additions. The license plate doesn't exist anymore, but would indicate (falsely) a 1956 car... |
◊ 2008-07-12 10:57 |
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◊ 2008-07-12 12:23 |
Thanks for these extra pics, Garco! The car seems to have the ribbed brake drums ('ETA') of a 1963+ PL17, and the indicators under the front bumper are a later adaptation to modern standards. The interior pic had a 1964+ dashboard with a black steering wheel. This one has a light grey steering wheel. So I guess they used two Panhards: a (not quite original) 1954 Dyna 54 [Z1] for extrior shots; and a 1964 17 for interior shots. |
◊ 2008-07-13 22:30 |
With these pics it should be listed as 1954 Dyna 54 [Z1]. |
◊ 2008-07-15 00:13 |
les gros feux rouges n'apparaissent qu'en 1957 - probably 54 (alluminium) with these "red buttons" added since the front bumpers are 54/55 type |
◊ 2013-04-13 07:44 |
Je suis d'accord avec dodinot le modèle présenté ici est une Panhard dyna Z de 1957 et non de 1954 en raison des stops arrière de grande dimension. |