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1959 GAZ M-13 Chaika

1959 GAZ M-13 Chaika in Voditel dlya Very, Movie, 2004 IMDB

Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: SU

1959 GAZ M-13 Chaika

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-25 21:54

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[Image: gaz13chaika1sm3.3773.jpg]

Ingo DE

2008-05-25 22:33

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Am I right, that the location is the place in front of the Lomonossov-university? In the other direction you'll have the view over Moscow.


That view:
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-- Last edit: 2008-05-25 22:34:51

pavelik FR

2008-05-25 22:58

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Exactly, Lomonossov Unversity in the background.

Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-26 20:12

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Monumental Soc-realism, say what you want about it, but looks better than eastern versions of the monsieur Le Corbusier ideas. :D

-- Last edit: 2008-05-26 20:12:41

chris40 UK

2008-05-26 21:21

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It's in better taste than the Chaika ... but not much. Ceausescu must have been inspired :/

pavelik FR

2008-05-27 12:50

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It's a fantastic and impressive building. One feel very, very small when standing near it.

sixcyl FR

2008-05-27 18:36

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Weasel1984 wrote Monumental Soc-realism, say what you want about it, but looks better than eastern versions of the monsieur Le Corbusier ideas. :D


M.Le Corbusier ideas was sort of utopia "avant-gardiste" and thought the buildings for the confort rather for esthetical point of view ;)

Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-27 20:42

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True, but I've sad "Eastern versions of Le Corbusier" and, as maybe you know it's a very big difference :D - these are neither beauty nor comfortable/functional. They copied only some construction ideas. Le Corbusier's "building - machine to the life", next to some blocks, built for example here since late 60's, is like a cosy doll's house of the six-year-old girl.

Chris sorry, but I prefer the Chaika. I guess you meant that it's a not very subtle copy of the "American stye", but if we forget about it the car doesn't look bad. :D

-- Last edit: 2008-06-19 17:28:02

Ingo DE

2008-05-27 21:22

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In German we call the style of Eastern buildings of the 50ies, like Lomonossov-university, but also the "Stalinallee" (since 1961 Karl-Marx-Allee) in East-Berlin, the "Palac Kultury i Nauki" in Warsaw and many more "Stalins Zuckerbäcker-Stil" (similar like: "Stalin's pastry cook-style"), because the decorations give the impression of a big wedding cake.

Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-27 21:37

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:D Same here - Pałac Kultury i Nauki is known as "tort" - the layer cake.
I also like not very common term "Stalin's baroque".

Ingo DE

2008-05-27 21:41

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But we shouldn't forget: this was the last and only typical architecture-style of Socialist countries!
Later, in the architecture, any kind of design or styling was getting lost in the COMECON-world.

So all buildings in East Germany, erected in GDR-times, are culture- and style-less garbage (and in bad quality, too).

Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-30 00:36

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I believe not all of them, though I can't give any examples from the former East Germany now. However we have the same problem in Warsaw. For many people everything what was built before the 1989 is a garbage, which should be replaced by another banal glass skyscraper (sad that the same people are usually not so radical in case of the post-communist politicians :/ - such our schizophrenia). Thanks to this we already lost some really interesting examples of the post war modernism - buildings which actually had nothing to do with the communist ideals, but were built in those times - in the 40's or 60's (1950's is mainly the time of "Stalins Zuckerbäcker-Stil" ;) ).
Later the architecture generally became really terrible and with that I must agree. I think, it was mainly because architects from the pre-war generation died or simply went on emigration, they became quickly replaced by "new people", educated already in new sick times. Unfortunately these new people built a lot and everywhere, and with their "masterpieces" we must still live, as it isn't simple to get rid of the block in which 200 families live. :/

-- Last edit: 2008-05-30 14:20:31

Ingo DE

2008-05-30 19:13

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In the GDR the lost of tolerable architecture had mostly economical reasons. They had big problems with housings and apartments. Pre-war-houses were rotten, also the private owned, because the rent was very low, too low to hold the runing costs, which causes the impossibility to renovate the houses. Hundred of thousands GDR-citizens have waited for an own housing. so the GDR has founded, resp.made perfect the industrial house-production (see: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBS_70). After the early 70ies, houses for living were only made in this system (except small one, built by privete persons). But these private persons, the big builder-"VEB", too, had also big problems to get the material. The GDR had no raw materials and no Western money to import it, so they had to cobble with low quality material (stuff in premium quality was always exported to the West, due the urgent need "real" money. "Real money" was always the D-Mark).

In this industrial style, they even had built in the last years of the GDR, a look-alike "historic" quarter in East-Berlin
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaiviertel). All old-style houses were concrete-made fakes, so it was also called "Erich's Disneyland"

Weasel1984 PL

2008-05-31 16:04

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Oh yes I've heard about it, they planned to built entire center of East Berlin with buildings from the quite good materials, but because of the lack of money they had to change these plans and replace a lot of them by a rather ordinary blocks. Drawings of these future Berlin reminded a movie Metropolis.
It is interesting, I didn't know that this part, this quarter which you've mentioned is from the GDR times. :D

-- Last edit: 2008-05-31 16:36:14

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