1955 Land-Rover 86'' Series I

1955 Land-Rover 86'' Series I in Heartbeat, TV Series, 1992-2009 Ep. 3.08

Class: Cars, Off-road / SUV — Model origin:

Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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stronghold ◊ 2008-05-12 11:04	The enquiry is complete The vehicle details for KSK 795 are: Date of Liability 01 11 1997 Date of First Registration 12 05 1955 Year of Manufacture Not Available Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1997CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour GREEN Vehicle Type Approval null -- Last edit: 2008-05-12 11:08:48
chris40 ◊ 2008-05-16 22:15	Series I, 80". The registration isn't the original one, but a so-called 'age-related'.
Alexander ◊ 2008-05-18 15:42	The 'lights through the grille' were used from May 1950 to the end of 1951.
HartyBeats ◊ 2023-07-19 15:54	This entry is confusing because it appears to state information for TWO different Land Rovers in the same episode of Heartbeat (2.04). Please could I suggest this confusion is removed, for example by having two separate entries, one for each Land Rover?
dsl ◊ 2023-07-20 15:07	Looks like 2 Landies used - from the 4th thumb and punching a few numbers in it looks like the other one is OUA 340 We've identified this vehicle using the details you provided LAND ROVER NOT RECORDED 1949 Registration number: OUA 340 Body type: Pick-Up Colour: Green Date of first registration: June 1978 Not taxed for on road use MOT No results returned Not clear which pics are which, apart from OUA having a front bar. Both plates smell of re-registrations, so original identities not totally solid and as they're both apparently 1949-50 probably simpler to keep them together on this page.
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-19 18:37	Ep. 1.10
HartyBeats ◊ 2023-09-22 15:30	A Land Rover with registration OUA343, not OUA340, appeared in 01.04, 01.05 and 02.04. OUA343 is DVLA-registered as a 1950 Land Rover. KSK795 is DVLA-registered as a 1955 Land Rover. Yet this entry is for a 1950 Land Rover! OUA343 and KSK795 should be demerged and have separate pages. -- Last edit: 2023-09-22 19:53:21
dsl ◊ 2023-09-22 16:24	There are too many things to disentangle reliably from this page. Firstly as a general point, we have too many early Landies 80/86/88 within the series page to award each one separate pages - there's probably going to have to be a big merging exercise at some point. Plus many of the Landies used in HB have deliberately confused identities by the production team which prevent reliable separation. Both these are previously explained context to be absorbed. On this page we have blurry pics of an unknown number of 80"s where things are too indistinct to work out which is which. We also have 3 possible plates to juggle - OUA 340 and 343, and KSK 795. Plus these comments above, the first for KSK 795, the second more general chris40 wrote Series I, 80". The registration isn't the original one, but a so-called 'age-related'. Alexander wrote The 'lights through the grille' were used from May 1950 to the end of 1951. So these are 1950 examples, whatever DVLA may claim for KSK 795; one common thing on early 80"s we've come across several times is that MoD bought big batches in this dark green (which was actually introduced because the MoD specified it) which after a few years in use were sold off at which point they entered the civilian registration system for the first time. So KSK 795's DVLA date of 1955 is not reliable - it was built several years earlier. This page may be a messy combination of examples - I don't disagree with that opinion - but I don't think the mess can be tidied into something more sensible in the circs.
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-22 17:42	HartyBeats wrote OUA343 is DVLA-registered as a 1949 Land Rover. Yet this entry is for a 1950 Land Rover! OUA343 and KSK795 should be demerged and have separate pages. OUA 343 is already listed - and it's a 1951: /vehicle_1827282-Land-Rover-80---Series-I-1951.html I'm currently at 2.04 so I'll be able to dig up some images of subject Landie shortly.
daimlere20 ◊ 2023-09-22 18:27	The "OUA" series of registrations didn't commence until December 1950, so I am not quite sure where 1949 comes into it?
daimlere20 ◊ 2023-09-22 18:39	HartyBeats wrote A Land Rover with registration OUA343, not OUA340, appeared in 01.04, 01.05 and 02.04. OUA343 is DVLA-registered as a 1949 Land Rover. KSK795 is DVLA-registered as a 1955 Land Rover. Yet this entry is for a 1950 Land Rover! OUA343 and KSK795 should be demerged and have separate pages. An unfortunate theme seems to be prevailing here: A theme where you identify little or nothing yourself, and then question the work of others, a case in point being two B.S.A motorcycles a few days ago which weren't even the same motorcycle! In this posting, we have a 1949 Land Rover. I for one marvel at the efforts of dsl on here, and this site would be rather empty without the time dsl dedicates to it. Possibly you could abstain from commenting on the identifications offered by others on here for a period, and just post those vehicles - and with the star ratings you feel appropriate - that you can identify yourself. I think that is a truly fair idea? That way, you can achieve the accuracy you strive for, and "lead from the front" for want of a better term, showing the rest of us the standard to aim for. -- Last edit: 2023-09-22 18:52:21
HartyBeats ◊ 2023-09-22 20:08	This entry contains images of OUA343 and KSK795 and no other Land Rovers. Since a separate entry already exists for OUA343 (Link to "imcdb.org"), I suggest images of OUA343 on this page should be removed or transferred to the other page, which includes the main image, the thumbnails posted by Lateef on 2023-09-19 18:37 and all thumbnails posted by stronghold on 2008-05-12 11:04, except the following thumbnail, which is of KSK795. Thereafter, I suggest this page should be for KSK795 only or, preferably, deleted and a new page for KSK795 created. -- Last edit: 2023-09-22 20:30:31
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-25 21:47	Do we know for sure that KSK 795 and OUA 343 are separate Land-Rovers? If so yell out loud. KSK 795 appears so briefly that I'm wondering if it's OUA 343 all along portraying two separate Landies belonging to separate characters. I've grouped all my thumbs of OUA 343 from ep. 2.04 at the page I added for S1. This entry is welcome to join, though parts this conversation might be worth to bring over to the new page in order to clear up some confusion. Ep. 2.04 -- Last edit: 2023-09-28 17:20:02
HartyBeats ◊ 2023-09-25 22:02	OUA343 and KSK795 are 100% definitely without any doubt DIFFERENT Land Rovers, owned, kept and driven by two DIFFERENT farmers, Reg Manston and Sam Carver respectively. The storyline of the episode, which is regarded by most Heartbeat fans as one of the best, if not the best, episode of all 372 episodes of Heartbeat, centres around TWO feuding neighbouring farmers, the wife of one of whom inadvertently transfers foot and mouth disease from one farm to the other because she is having a secret affair with the other farmer. My suggestion is to copy no comments from this page, to delete the page and to create a brand new page for KSK795.
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-25 22:14	Do you have any proof? The Landies never appear on-screen together at the same time and they seem identical as far as I can tell.
dsl ◊ 2023-09-25 22:42	OK - where I've got to so far. Despite being a real plate for a Landie of this age, OUA 340 comments can be discarded, leaving just 2 plates to play with. OUA 343 and KSK 795 are different examples, but the only definite photos which definitely prove this are of the rear lights - KSK has no reverser below the number plate but OUA does. As the only definite KSK pics - at least as far as I can work them out - are the quarter rear views, I can't identify other differences; if any other views of KSK emerge this could be pursued as OUA has several quirks as seen in the gallery on its page here, which I'll describe there. Which means several pics on this page are no longer applicable to KSK, particularly any with the rack thing on the front bumper. But the ep1.10 pics above of 51/91 CWT/CWY look different again, although mainly for the spare on the bonnet - no idea if KSK has one (no front view available), and it comes and goes from OUA. However other differences mean it's not OUA.
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-26 18:41	Ep. 2.05
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-28 17:25	KSK 795 made a second cameo in ep. 3.08, where its front end was shown in full. I've now finally swept away all doubt I had about it being a separate Land-Rover. Changing the mainpic and reinstating the year 1955.
dsl ◊ 2023-09-28 19:41	Sadly, we're not out of the woods yet on KSK 795, but the trees are thinning out - the problem now is that there is no such thing as a 1955 80" - 1955 means 86". Starting with plate info, KSK was a re-reg series as pointed out before, and there's no clue when this Landie first got the plate. DVLA info gives one insight: ✗ Untaxed Vehicle KSK795 is not Taxed Tax due: 1 November 1997 Vehicle make LAND ROVER Date of first registration May 1955 Year of manufacture 1955 Cylinder capacity 1997 cc Fuel type PETROL Export marker No Vehicle colour GREEN Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight 3499 kg Date of last V5C (logbook) issued 14 January 2023 (so it still exists somewhere in some shape or form) 2-litre engine replaced 1.6 in autumn 51, which also brought the new grille seen in updated main (plus exterior door handles). Sept 53 brought the 86" which amongst other things replaced the slanted rear edge to the doors with verticals and a 3" longer rear overhang. But front unchanged, so as seen this is a 52+ (whatever)". To fully confirm this as a 1955 86" would need a view of door outline and/or rear three-quarter - however it's probably a reasonable assumption as there's nothing visible preventing it being one. No other pics found by online googling. It's also got a distinctive quirk - the twin front sidelights - S1s never had twins. This is useful because it eliminates the ep1.10 sighting (51/91 CWT/CWY ??), which only has singles. May also be useful if KSK 795 pops up again. Finally ESU 807 in ep2.05: We've identified this vehicle using the details you provided LAND ROVER NOT RECORDED 1950 Registration number: ESU 807 Body type: Light Utility 4X4 Colour: Green Date of first registration: October 1986 Cylinder capacity 1595 cc ✓ Taxed Tax due: 1 November 2023 2021 auction listing - "1950 1600cc Land Rover Series I 80", ESU 807, chassis 06111599 .... delivered new to Greenham's of Shrewsbury in May 1950 with the original registration GNT 117. It was subsequently re-registered in 1986 having spent some years in Yorkshire where it is reported to have been used in the first series of Heartbeat".
HartyBeats ◊ 2023-09-28 23:20	So, in short KSK795 is a 1955 Land-Rover 86" Series I and ESU807 is a 1950 Land Rover 80" Series I. Both are very different Land Rovers with real registration numbers, rather than fake show plates, so they should both have separate pages. Due to the clutter on this page, I suggest deleting this page and creating TWO brand new, separate, clean pages, one each for KSK795 and ESU807. -- Last edit: 2023-09-28 23:36:24
Lateef ◊ 2023-09-28 23:24	Nah, this page will be kept (maybe archive some comments), don't see any reason to give ESU 807 a separate page unless it has a bigger role in a later episode. It probably makes sense to move it to OUA 343, as that L-R is of similar vintage (this was previously listed as 1950).

1955 Land-Rover 86'' Series I

1955 Land-Rover 86'' Series I in Heartbeat, TV Series, 1992-2009 Ep. 3.08

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