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Mercedes-Benz 405 D [O 319]

Mercedes-Benz 405 D [O 319] in Muertos Comunes, Movie, 2004 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: DE — Built in: ES — Made for: E

Mercedes-Benz 405 D [O 319]

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carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-25 19:03

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carobserver MX

2008-03-25 19:20

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The covered car, maybe a more modern car that couldn┤t be part on this scene?

-- Last edit: 2008-03-25 23:52:52 (antp)

DynaMike NL

2008-03-25 19:25

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O 319.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2008-03-25 19:25

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carobserver wrote The covered car, maybe a more modern car that couldn┤t be part on this scene?

I think you're right. The shape and size suggest a modern SUV or MPV.

-- Last edit: 2008-03-25 19:26:45

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-25 19:35

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Indeed, but at least it is not as bad as this one :p /vehicle_83918-Mercedes-Benz-190-E-W201-1983.html

Ingo DE

2008-03-26 08:23

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The filmmakers couldn't find out the owner, that he can drive that "wrong" car away, so they tried to helped theirselves.

antp BE

2008-03-26 16:32

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There are better ways to hide an new car, they should have done it in that way: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YMVX89EomLY :D

Ingo DE

2008-03-26 22:28

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I remember a German TV-commercial in the 80ies about the Rental Car Company AVIS. There was a man sitting in front of a broken down and smoking car, where parts were alling off. It was a Skoda 110 L. I've seen the "Making of"-film, but in the final TV-commercial there was a "censored" black triangle over the C-pillar to avoid, that the viewer can recognize the car.

Ingo DE

2008-03-26 22:31

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@antp: what's worse, a Kia or a Chevrolet Citiation? I would have chose the Citiation, really. It makes unbelievable much fun to drive around with a car in absolutely rough optical condition. :D
A Kia is nothing.

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-26 22:37

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Ingo wrote I've seen the "Making of"-film, but in the final TV-commercial there was a "censored" black triangle over the C-pillar to avoid, that the viewer can recognize the car.

You mean to hide the car's real make and model no? yes that's done in every advert in where another car is advertised or in where the advert has nothign to do with the car.

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-26 22:37

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Ingo wrote A Kia is nothing.


How exagerated, it is still a proper car :p

Ingo DE

2008-03-26 23:07

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@CCF: very lovely "hidden" were the cars in the advertises of ESSO (in Germany the name for EXXON) in the 70ies. You could see in the magazines, how the makers have cobbled with their pencils to make the car un-recognizable.


What do you mean with "proper"? Perhaps a kia runs well and the quality is better than at other brands, but for me they are cars with no flair, no style, no name, no history and so on.
Perhaps my opinion bases on the fact, that my interest for cars was founded in my childhood in the 70ies. Korean cars haven't existed in that time over here (in 1985 in Holland I've seen my first Hyundai, which has surprised me a lot) and Japanese cars had the reputation of cheap bargain-cars with oldfashioned technic and much more oldfashioned design.

antp BE

2008-03-26 23:43

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Recent ones made in Europe are not bad at all. My father tried the sport version of the 3-door Cee'd, it was impressive.

-- Last edit: 2008-03-26 23:43:58

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-26 23:44

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Yes but i think there are worse than Kia, that of "no soul" "no style" oh well :/ they are still normal cars, if you cant afford anything better they are ok to buy, i dont see anything wrong, it is too easy to say that a car has "no soul" or no "anything" it is not that which only counts in :/

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-26 23:44

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The second time you do this to me today Antoine! :p my message above was for Ingo :D

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-26 23:46

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Also i dont find them ugly at all, i like them, specially the Sorento, which, at least to me, has always been a nice car.

Ingo DE

2008-03-27 01:06

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Yes, if you have a use for such cars, probably they will be able to fill this use.


It may sounds strange, but if you are a car-freak, who is also interested in history and design (for cars, but for other things, too), it can be important for you, too, where the car is coming from, what was the history of the company and so on. Or if you have some personal relations (the car of your first girl-friend or so).

An example: in 2006 I had a great weekend with that guys: http://www.creme21-rallye.de/ (there was made that pic, too: /vehicle_155542-Volkswagen-K70-Typ-48-1973.html )
At the first day we had visited the Mercedes-factory in Rastatt, where the A- and B-classes were produced. The factory was new build in the 90ies.
No joke, but several of us youngtimer-freaks have said afterwards, that the visitor's tour was interesting, but the place had no "spirit", no "flair" and so on - other car-factories are looking identical, but if you have the knowledge, that you own car was produced there or that that place has a big history, you feel different.
For a lot of VW-freaks the Wolfsburg-factory, founded during the Nazi-time with an big history is a "holy place", for Mercedes-enthusiasts the plants in Stuttgart and so on...

To a Japanese friend I've told: "Your Mexican made New Beetle has no soul, no historical roots, but your father's 1986 Mercedes 190 W 201, this car has some. I never liked the 190, but it was produced in the former Borgward-factory in Bremen. This is the point."

Annother example: in the Porsche-museum there is a "holy" part for a lot of Porsche-freaks. It's just a scratched metal-frame, where the on the line passing chassis were measured 8or something like that) - but ALL ever made Porsche's until one year (1983? 1984? 1993?) have passed that frame.


-- Last edit: 2008-03-27 01:08:14

carchasesfanatic ES

2008-03-27 01:21

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I take your point, and i perfectly understand you, us all have feeling for a car, or a brand in general coming from our country, etc, but this is a different thing, i mean, all this is very nice yes, but when you are going to buy a car because you need one, you are not going to strat "oh this car was made here, or there so i wont buy it..." if you see what i mean... of course that of feelings is normal, its like what a Spanish person can feel for Seat and its models (me too), but as i said, that's something that has a minor role when you are going to buy a car in the meaning that if you cant afford anything better than a cheap Chevrolet (European ones) or something like a Kia (nothing wrong with it but well, since the conversation strated with it...) there's nothing else you can do im afraid, you need it and you buy the one you can afford, so the "history" thing cannot count in all the time for every person (talking about car fans like us) when they have to buy a car unfortunately.

But well as i said at the begining of this message i understood you perfectly, and share your opinion of course.

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