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1960 Morgan Plus 4

1960 Morgan Plus 4 in The War of the Roses, Movie, 1989 IMDB

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: UK

1960 Morgan Plus 4

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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ahight US

2006-11-12 05:40

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car that runs over the cat and then gets crushed.
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G-MANN UK

2006-11-12 12:34

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Horrible scene of a fine British roadster being senselessly destroyed by a hideous SUV.

zippy4898 US

2007-02-08 16:15

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Over ten years ago, I sold a race-prepped Triumph cylinder head to the guy who bought and restored this Morgan Plus 4 after it was crushed in the above scene. He said it had been a very sad, neglected car that barely ran and had a rusted chassis, that had been given a quickie paint job for the movie only to make it look good for the few scenes it was in. He said the movie makers had welded-on a small frame work to the rear axle onto which flanged railroad-car-type wheels were mounted. The wheels engaged with small rail tracks on the ground to assure the car was pushed straight backwards when the 4X4 was pushing it. The rails were later photgraphically removed from the filmed scenes.

Rest assured, the condition in which it left the movie lot was not much worse that when it got there, according to its buyer. He had already purchased a new chassis and many other parts - If you're out there, I'd be curious if you ever got it back on the road - for an agriculturally-simple car, Morgan restorations tend to get stretched out over the years - mine took 5 years!

wrenchhead US

2007-02-08 16:50

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Glad someone applied CPR to this poor morgan. They are neat cars. Do they still use a wood frame for the body panels like the old MGs?

Deladyizavamp US

2008-09-22 21:23

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This car was purchased by Bill Caruso and was finally fully restored. However, two weeks before running the finished product at Limerock he passed away of a sudden heart attack. (I was engaged to his son at the time who is aptly named after the car (Morgan)). Have no clue as to the where abouts to the car at this time as my fiance's step mom retained ownership of the car after Bill's death. Would love to know where the car is now. Rest assured, it was beautiful once completed.

kstadden US

2008-12-25 04:22

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On the Discovery HD Theater channel, there's a series called "Chasing Classic Cars" in which Wayne Morini buys the car, gets it going again, races it at Lime Rock, and promises to hold onto it for his daughter so that it stays in the family.
They're replaying it December 25, 2008 at 9:30. Here's a paste from the show description:

Chasing Classic Cars
Wayne Goes Racing
TV-PG, CC

Wayne fulfills a man's last wish as he restores the 1960 Morgan Roadster from the film, War of the Roses, which the buyer purchased. He had planned to go vintage racing with the car, but he didn't live to see the day. Now, Wayne continues his mission.

dsl SX

2010-10-14 14:45

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Previous comment calls it a +4 from direct knowledge of the actual car and final comment dates it as originally 1960.

bd64kcmo US

2011-11-25 19:32

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I was rather hoping this Morgan was a mockup like the '62 Ferrari California in "Ferris Beuller" that fell into the ravine. I am glad to see news the car was restored, never having to suffer that abuse again.

As for Wrenchead's question, as far as I know, Morgans, like the T-series, and some pre-war MG's, had steel-clad ash bodies on steel rail frames. They were beautiful but did not have much torsional stiffness, and could not handle engines with much more torque than the XPAG/XPEG 4 cylinders they had. The MG's did have a U-tube that went from one side to the other, to kill cowl shake. Nowadays Morgans of this type do have the Buick/Rover V-8s but I do not know what they did to stiffen up the structure.

In 1956 the iconic MGA came on scene with a steel monocoque body on a much stiffer, lower chassis. Nonetheless the Abingdon works built the cars by hand in a 1930s factory. No individual was the same as another. Seemingly MG never went to robotics, and that may have been what put the brand into a coma until later revival (without US exports) in the mid 1980s.

BD

guest US

2012-06-08 22:15

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I just watched the 2008 episode of Chasing Classic Cars with Wayne Carini (Se.1, Ep.10). The car was owned by Bill Caruso's wife, who worked for Wayne. She finally decides to sell the car to Wayne and the actually get this car to Limerock and make some laps. They had cooling/ratiator issues that they couldn't resolve at the track, so they didn't get to run the full day, but it was a very nice episode. It's interesting to see how many people are interested in cool, classic cars like this.

I hate to see cars get crushed just for a move or tv show. I even hate those 21st Century Car Insurance commercials when they smash cars.

BW

Mr Fitter US

2013-11-28 18:16

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The story of the War of the Roses Morgan ran today 11/28/13 on Chasing Classic Cars on the Velocity Channel. Wayne Corini told Bill Caruso's widow she could use the vehicle anytime she wanted to. He stated he was placing the vehicle in a Trust. I'm not sure if he stated it was a trust for his daughter or whom. The vehicle had some serious cooling problems while doing the maiden drive at Lime Rock Speedway. He'll fix it 4 sure.

panhof US

2014-09-08 15:39

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When you watch the episode of "CHASING CARS" where this 1960 Morgan is shown. One must say it strikes a real cord to any man that has a loving doting wife as well as a classic car. Myself I have a couple of classic Jaguars that I really care for and enjoy and I would assume many people who have this passion for classic cars dont really imagine what happens after a sudden death of the primary owner and what the emotions are afterwards.

It was very sad to me to see the surviving spouse intently watch Wayne Carini, the following owner race that car on the Lime Rock Racing Park where her husband planned to race it 8 days after his death. I feel you could see her sadness and the anxiety of a love lost and I also think a feeling of loneliness.

I know upon my death my Jags will be sold, not necessarily because of the $$$$ they will bring but the logic of why have a classic car in a warehouse under a car cover sitting idle and away from site. I think I would like to see them in the hands of someone that might appreciate them and not in dark storage hidden from view.

However with that said I can actually understand if my wife would keep the cars because of the memories made with them and my passion for them.Perhaps keeping them for the children upon her passing. Really not logical but who says emotions are logical.

Rest in peace "Bill Caruso"

mike962 DE

2017-11-11 20:14

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