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Seagrave

Seagrave in The Birds, Movie, 1963 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Fire truck — Model origin: US

Seagrave

Position 01:27:13 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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Junkman UK

2006-01-10 18:11

Appears to be a mid 20s Ahrens-Fox. Any chance of a pic from the front?

wrenchhead US

2006-04-16 16:17

I agree Ahrens Fox, NS-4 circa 1925. See: http://216.55.190.32/idcow/products/24yms2002_009.jpg

-- Last edit: 2006-04-16 16:20:13

ehass@yahoo.com US

2010-11-09 02:33

This is NOT an Ahrens-Fox! It's a Seagrave Suburbanite or Metropolite, probably one of the many that Los Angeles City Fire Dept. bought in 1923-1924, many of which survive today, such as at http://www.ombac.org/homepage/images/fire_e2.jpg

1. No silver ball on the front, and classic Seagrave centrifugal pump layout under seat (see http://www.ombac.org/homepage/images/fire_e6.jpg) same style and location of pump handles and gauges.
2. Vertically elongated gas tank between seat and hose bed--shorter on an Ahrens-Fox and mounted top front of hose bed.
3. Note rounded hood with two sets of hood louvres separated by gold-leaf numerals inside an oval--just like this Los Angeles Seagrave pumper: Link to "www.lafire.com" On an Ahrens-Fox, the hood is gable shaped (square, pointy) and the hood louvres are continuous across the hood, with no gaps between louvres.
4. Copper chemical tank between seat and hose bed--an Ahrens-Fox would have had a painted booster tank, and like the gas tank, it would have been mounted atop hose bed.
5. Top-mounted booster reel. On an Ahrens-Fox, the reel was in a well cut into the tail step.
6. Sheet metal under hose bed. On an Ahrens-Fox, no sheet metal there, just inverted-V shaped support brackets.

If you want to see a real Ahrens-Fox in a movie (a 1922 Model K-S-4 ex-Long Beach, then owned by Glen Alton, who died in 1957), check out the 1951 Bob Hope film "My Favorite Spy". That same Ahrens-Fox now belongs to Richard Stacks of San Francisco, is restored and is one of 4 Ahrens-Foxes on display in Long Beach Fire Museum. The 1951 Hope movie also features a 1914 Seagrave service ladder truck.

ehass@yahoo.com US

2010-11-09 02:36

the la link didn't work, try this:

Link to "www.lafire.com"

rjluna2 US

2010-11-09 03:13

ehass@yahoo.com is correct, it is Seagrave due to the bonnet style.

piperjoe4273 US

2010-12-26 17:14

Definately a Seagrave

rjluna2 US

2015-08-24 20:48

This one has the silver chemical tank behind the pumper.

michelemassa IT

2019-08-08 13:37

1925 Ahrens Fox NS-4

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