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1966 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108]

1966 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108] in Peter ist der Boß, TV Series, 1973 IMDB Ep. 13

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE

1966 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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AleX_DJ AT

2021-01-20 19:50

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terrifried CA

2021-01-21 05:59

It must be a Mercedes-Benz W108 250SE 1966

[Image: 250se1.jpg] [Image: 250se2.jpg]

https://www.ardorauctions.pl/mercedes-benz-250-se-1966-2/
Link to "tr.wikipedia.org"

-- Last edit: 2021-01-21 06:17:27

zodiac SE

2021-01-22 21:23

@terrifried:

Welcome to imcdb!

Yes, the W108 250SE 1966 is indeed one possibility.
However, Mercedes's are not easy to identify as they looked roughly the same through a number of years, albeit with a choice of engines.

This model was introduced at the Frankfurt IAA in 1965, but didn't reach the market in any real numbers until MY 1966. For the MY 1967 it looked much the same, apart from some minor details (mostly on the engine, but also some on the interior) which are not visible on these pictures.

Enginewise there were a choise between a 2,5 litre stight six cylinder with twin carburators (called 250 S), the same engine, but with Bosch Fuel injection (called 250 SE) and a 3 litre six cylinder engine made by aluminium, also with Bosch Fuel injection (called 300 SE).

Of those, the 250 S was the cheapest, and thus made in the biggest number. The fuel injection was more expensive as it added an extra engine beside the normal one and was thus comparable rare, but on the plus side made the car cheaper to run and faster. The 300 SE was very rare as the aluminium engine was expensive to build, but didn't deliver any extra speed. MY 1966 proved to be unreliable on the 250 S and the 250 SE, but the engine was rectified to MY 1967.

-- Last edit: 2021-01-22 21:24:17

AleX_DJ AT

2021-01-25 11:17

A very little of the interior, don't know if helpful:
[Image: peteristderboss-s01e134318.jpg] [Image: peteristderboss-s01e131237.jpg]

terrifried CA

2021-02-01 19:10

@zodiac

Thanks.

You are right. I have looked many W108 series and indeed they are really similar, hard to choose the right one. Also, low quality of the movie photos are not helpful, too.

However, as far as I can see, 250SE is the only one that the mirrors are located in the front and not on the doors.

Also, the car being a taxi, it indeed can be the cheap 250 S version.

zodiac SE

2021-02-02 23:48

@terrifried:

It's not easy to explain the position of outside rear view mirrors, but I'll make a try.

Towards the end of the 50's the motor car had become a very common sight in the U.S. That was partly a good thing, but alongside the war of more and more horse power which inevitably led to higher and higher speed, also accidents became far more common than one would accept.
Why did those accidents occur? It couldn't only be because of the speed, or could it?

Much research was done, and they (I can't remember off hand who did that research, but I've read about it on numerous occasions) come up with some gruesome facts. As almost no seat belts existed (there had been cars offered with seat belts, like Nash in 1949, but those cars were considered lethal as they were equipped with seat belts!), people became speared on the steering column at accidents, stricken to death by incredibly firm objects like door handles or inside rear view mirrors, and thrown out of the window. Also the structure of the cars was extremely solid, as they emerged almost unhurt after an accident, while the passengers died.
Also objects on the outside of the car had to be considered as those could strike pedestrians. Such items were spinners (on wheels), hood ornaments, pointy fins and firm outside mirrors.

Gradually, cars became less ornamental when the 60’s went past, possibly because of this research, and some car makers did a little safety research themselves. The first true safety body was the M-B W111 series, where safety zones were destroyed in an accident in order to save the passengers. The W108 series was a development based on the W111 series, and had things like a loose inside mirror.

In order to be able to sell cars in the U.S. from MY 1968, all car producers had to full fill many, many things on a list provided by the authority. Because of that, the MY 1968 is quite possibly the most important Model Year in the history of the motor car. However, not any car company could full fill all requirements, but did so during the next few years.

But what has all this to do with the outside door mirrors?
It indeed has, because from MY 1968 door mirrors became compulsory, and also had to fold away when hit by a sturdy object.

That is, before MY 1968 outside mirrors could be fitted where one wished, and was indeed so. Some countries had demands previous to that, if the car was equipped with a pulling hook, but not on a larger scale.

However, some car manufacturers did provide outside door mirrors as optional extra. I believe M-B used Albert as supplier, and some British cars used Tex. I’m not sure who made the ones fitted on the white taxi, but it might be Talbot ones.

-- Last edit: 2021-02-02 23:50:34

terrifried CA

2021-02-10 19:08

@zodiac

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have no more to say :), but learned a lot. I only want to add some info.

Indeed, rear-window standarts had been legislated in 1967-68 in the US,

https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/index.html#SN111

For a moment, I was confused for the Talbot brand; it didn't make any sense for M-B to use a British/French equipment. However, there is (or was) also a Berlin company named Talbot, which I want to share for the argument's sake. And, Albert Schwanenhals car mirrors are indeed good ones.

Link to "www.tuningblog.eu"

Link to "www.tuningblog.eu"

Hope these would be helpful.

-- Last edit: 2021-02-10 19:10:23

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